Ganch - What the hell do you do for a living?

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  • raiders72002
    SBR MVP
    • 03-06-07
    • 3368

    #1
    Ganch - What the hell do you do for a living?
    You're the smartest guy on this forum. Are you a pro? What other jobs have you had in your lifetime?
  • Ganchrow
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-28-05
    • 5011

    #2
    Originally posted by raiders72002
    You're the smartest guy on this forum. Are you a pro? What other jobs have you had in your lifetime?
    We've had this conversation before.
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    • raiders72002
      SBR MVP
      • 03-06-07
      • 3368

      #3
      Ganch- My memory is shot. Give me the link. I put the ball on the tee for you to brag and you don't even take a swing.
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      • DrunkenLullaby
        SBR MVP
        • 03-30-07
        • 1631

        #4
        One thing's for sure, he can't be a pro - because clearly JJ's the only pro on here.
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        • raiders72002
          SBR MVP
          • 03-06-07
          • 3368

          #5
          because clearly JJ's the only pro on here
          true, which is why no one accepted the JJGold challenge.
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          • Ganchrow
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-28-05
            • 5011

            #6
            Originally posted by raiders72002
            Ganch- My memory is shot. Give me the link. I put the ball on the tee for you to brag and you don't even take a swing.
            I worked on Wall Street as an quantitative equity trader before running my own statistical arbitrage desk and then hedge fund.

            I sold my hedge fund interest and now do advantage gambling full time.
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            • raiders72002
              SBR MVP
              • 03-06-07
              • 3368

              #7
              poker too? If you ever write a program for that send it my way.
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              • raiders72002
                SBR MVP
                • 03-06-07
                • 3368

                #8
                Ganch- Nice to see that you finally took a swing. I was afraid that you were getting too old to step into the box.
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                • pico
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 04-05-07
                  • 27321

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ganchrow
                  I worked on Wall Street as an quantitative equity trader before running my own statistical arbitrage desk and hedge fund.

                  I retired and now do advantage gambling full time.
                  quant trading models are getting killed last couple of days
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                  • Ganchrow
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 08-28-05
                    • 5011

                    #10
                    Originally posted by picoman
                    quant trading models are getting killed last couple of days
                    I'm sorry, I forgot how plugged in you were.

                    Quantitative trading is not a monolithic asset class. Some quant strategies have been getting hurt, some have been doing well.
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                    • BigBollocks
                      SBR MVP
                      • 06-11-06
                      • 2045

                      #11
                      Well now that you've been asked about your professional history Ganch I'll shoot one too. I've always been curious what your educational background was. I have no doubts that you succeeded in a pretty rigorous statistics-based program of some sort. I'd also be curious how you transitioned from university into your equity trader position. Cheers...
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                      • stump
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-14-05
                        • 1715

                        #12
                        great question! i have always wondered this, i read everything ganchow posts, and although i consider myself a successful handicapper, i feel real stupid when i read some of his posts. keep posting ganchow, thanks
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                        • Ganchrow
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 08-28-05
                          • 5011

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BigBollocks
                          Well now that you've been asked about your professional history Ganch I'll shoot one too. I've always been curious what your educational background was. I have no doubts that you succeeded in a pretty rigorous statistics-based program of some sort. I'd also be curious how you transitioned from university into your equity trader position.
                          Bachelor's in math, Master's in economics.

                          If you want to know the rest, you'll have to buy the book.
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                          • imgv94
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-16-05
                            • 17192

                            #14
                            Ganchrow can be anything he wants to be..


                            Well since you are taking questions now, I'd like to know what drugs you have
                            consumed recently?
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                            • Ganchrow
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 08-28-05
                              • 5011

                              #15
                              Originally posted by imgv94
                              Well since you are taking questions now, I'd like to know what drugs you have consumed recently?
                              If you want to book an interview you'll need to talk to my agent.
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388179

                                #16
                                I wonder if Ganch got bounced from Wall Street due to insider trading? Why in the hell would he be here with degenerate gamblers?
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                                • hhsilver
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 06-07-07
                                  • 7375

                                  #17
                                  When I began coming to the forum a few months ago, two posters helped make me want to continue visiting -- Ganch and, you guessed it, JJgold. In addition to the many other astute posters, these two stood out, for vastly different reasons of course.

                                  Too bad, when I was getting my degree in math many years ago, my professors didn't explain things as clearly as Ganch. His writings make me nostalgic for my happy college days many years ago.
                                  And JJ -- well I guess I was impressed with JJ just being JJ.

                                  When I decided to finally signup so I could post I said to myself "oh no, not another choosing of a user name - I can never think of one I like". And so in honor of jjgold ( sorry Ganchrow, I couldn't do much with your name) I became hhsilver.

                                  Recently, for reasons related to another thread that I won't get into here, I came to regret my choice. But since I don't believe in ghosts I guess I'll continue to be hhsilver.

                                  Ganch, you make me feel like a young math student again - Thanks.
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                                  • Ganchrow
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 08-28-05
                                    • 5011

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by hhsilver
                                    When I began coming to the forum a few months ago, two posters helped make me want to continue visiting -- Ganch and, you guessed it, JJgold. In addition to the many other astute posters, these two stood out, for vastly different reasons of course.

                                    Too bad, when I was getting my degree in math many years ago, my professors didn't explain things as clearly as Ganch. His writings make me nostalgic for my happy college days many years ago.
                                    And JJ -- well I guess I was impressed with JJ just being JJ.

                                    When I decided to finally signup so I could post I said to myself "oh no, not another choosing of a user name - I can never think of one I like". And so in honor of jjgold ( sorry Ganchrow, I couldn't do much with your name) I became hhsilver.

                                    Recently, for reasons related to another thread that I won't get into here, I came to regret my choice. But since I don't believe in ghosts I guess I'll continue to be hhsilver.

                                    Ganch, you make me feel like a young math student again - Thanks.
                                    That's nothing ... you should see me tap dance.

                                    Thanks for the kind words, btw.
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388179

                                      #19
                                      I have always supsected Ganch as being shady and still do, no one disputes his math and computer genius, might be best ever on a forum but I do not trust the fuk.
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                                      • 20Four7
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 04-08-07
                                        • 6703

                                        #20
                                        I can't believe you were so honest with everyone about your work/educational background. The way you explain yourself on here is amazing. While my education is math and science based sometimes when going through your stuff I sit back and really have to take a good look at it. Read and re read a few times till it starts to make sense. I had one statistics professor who knew I gambled and I could pull figures out on what the probability of a lot of things were (cards, dice etc) but that was because I just knew what they were. If asked for a formula on how to figure it out I really had to think. Because honestly if you know the odds are 6-5 why would you need a formula?

                                        Keep posting Ganch even the stuff I have trouble following as it's always informative.

                                        And JJ only believes the guys who you can trust are the degenerate gamblers because you know

                                        A) They will stiff you
                                        B) They won't stiff you.
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                                        • raiders72002
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 03-06-07
                                          • 3368

                                          #21
                                          hhsilver- Good post. I agree with a lot of it.

                                          I think Ganch is involved in this NBA ref thing.
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                                          • moses millsap
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 08-25-05
                                            • 8289

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by raiders72002
                                            I think Ganch is involved in this NBA ref thing.

                                            I'm eagerly awaiting Donaghy to name him:

                                            "...Salvatore, Rush, Mauer, and Ganchrow"
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                                            • raiders72002
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 03-06-07
                                              • 3368

                                              #23
                                              I'm eagerly awaiting Donaghy to name him:

                                              "...Salvatore, Rush, Mauer, and Ganchrow"
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                                              • WileOut
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-04-07
                                                • 3844

                                                #24
                                                Ganch I'm taking biostatistics this fall as part of a masters degree in health information systems/Public Health.

                                                If I have any problems in the class I will be PM'ing you
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                                                • remmy358
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 07-18-07
                                                  • 2199

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                  I wonder if Ganch got bounced from Wall Street due to insider trading? Why in the hell would he be here with degenerate gamblers?
                                                  while i am not saying if jj is right or wrong, it does make one wonder why ganch struts around the sbr forum...the money that could be made in other areas is a lot more. there are very few pro's in this business, and ganch may or may not be a pro. i've seen some math wiz's that could rob a casino and book, but were compulsive gamblers and lost it all....

                                                  so what is the deal with ganch, gancho, come clean...why are you on here betting and posting
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                                                  • SBR_John
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 07-12-05
                                                    • 16471

                                                    #26
                                                    Ganch is the man!
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                                                    • SlapDash
                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                      • 02-08-07
                                                      • 15

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                      Ganch is the man!
                                                      Agree.

                                                      Now, how bout that 3rd part on the Kelly criterion, sir?

                                                      [Fingers x-ed that sucking up will get things moving]
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                                                      • raiders72002
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 03-06-07
                                                        • 3368

                                                        #28
                                                        he money that could be made in other areas is a lot more. th
                                                        not necessarily true. Fezzik quit being an actuary to gamble full time.

                                                        You can also use the money that you make gambling to invest in other areas such as real estate.
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                                                        • ugard
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 03-21-07
                                                          • 14

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by remmy358
                                                          so what is the deal with ganch, gancho, come clean...why are you on here betting and posting
                                                          Originally posted by Greg Mankiw
                                                          Third, there is the professional gambler, such as the one in the Slate article (or the boyfriend of blogger Jacqueline Passey). In some ways, this case is the saddest of all. I have no doubt that some people can, in fact, make a living gambling. But doing so requires a lot of intelligence and savvy. It is a shame that someone with so much inherent ability wastes it doing something of such little social value.


                                                          <devil's advocate>
                                                          My theory is that Ganchrow is intellectually a committed libertarian, but emotionally still has the human sympathy that most, if not all of us, seem to be born with. He worries about the stark fact that gambling markets are essentially about the transfer of money from the, how can I put this, statistically astute to the not-so-statistically astute. The earning made from gambling is arguably of very little social value. It is not really growing the economy, expanding human knowledge or any other noble cause.

                                                          Hence, the aforementioned worry about others condition, leads him to try to educate the rest of us mugs so we have a least got a chance. We have been honorably defeated in a game of skill. At the very least we are not able to claim (and if true, a very large problem indeed for the libertarian) that we didn't know we were losing our money. We paid, in expected losses, for the fun of doing it after all!

                                                          If Ganchrow were a burglar (and if burglary were legal of course) he would have your house cleared from top to bottom in ten minutes flat while you slept, but he would have popped round the previous week for a friendly chat to let you know he was coming.
                                                          </devils advocate>
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #30
                                                            Odds Ganch barreled in? +125
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                                                            • Scorpion
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 09-04-05
                                                              • 7797

                                                              #31
                                                              Ganch = Andy Iskoe
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                                                              • RickySteve
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 01-31-06
                                                                • 3415

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Scorpion
                                                                Ganch = Andy Iskoe
                                                                That's out of line. You need to apologize.
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                                                                • Ganchrow
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 08-28-05
                                                                  • 5011

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Scorpion
                                                                  Ganch = Andy Iskoe
                                                                  If so, then I really let me have it.
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                                                                  • imgv94
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 11-16-05
                                                                    • 17192

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I wonder if Ganchrow was ever a salesman.
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