Raiders 56% challenge 2-1 odds that no capper at SBR can win 56%

[imgv94]

Then I'm sure you'll snap his hand off for 3/1 for hitting 55% without him having the half-time score, right?

You would think huh..

He's all bark and no bite..

[Justin7]

Raiders, 3 questions.

1. is that offer open to me;
2. can I bet any sport/derivitive (as long as it is scaled, so going 2-1 at -200 is the equivalent o f50%); and
3. How much can I bet on this?

Oops, I'm a moderator. But I'm curious about the first two questions. I can bury you on this if I can bet first quarter, first and second half, teasers, and live betting and props.

[Ganchrow]

2. can I bet any sport/derivitive (as long as it is scaled, so going 2-1 at -200 is the equivalent o f50%); and

So what are you suggesting would be the -200 line equivalent of going 56% at -110?

[Justin7]

So what are you suggesting would be the -200 line equivalent of going 56% at -110?

If you made 100 plays and won 56 at -110, you would win (56-48.4)=7.6 units.

For dogs, risk 1 unit. For favs, bet to win 1 unit. After 100 plays, you win if you're up 7.6+ units.

[tacomax]

So what are you suggesting would be the -200 line equivalent of going 56% at -110?

I'd have expected you to have worked that one out instead of asking the question. You're slipping, Ganchrow.

[Ganchrow]

I'd have expected you to have worked that one out instead of asking the question. You're slipping, Ganchrow.

Well there are multiple ways a contestant might choose to equate the two, each with their own unique set of complications.

There's no right or wrong ... it's just a matter of carefully defining one's terms.

Using Justin's methodology, for example, what win % at -200 would one equate with a 79% win percentage at -110?

[raiders72002]

Raiders, 3 questions.

1. is that offer open to me;
2. can I bet any sport/derivitive (as long as it is scaled, so going 2-1 at -200 is the equivalent o f50%); and
3. How much can I bet on this?

Oops, I'm a moderator. But I'm curious about the first two questions. I can bury you on this if I can bet first quarter, first and second half, teasers, and live betting and props.
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1. Bring it on !!!!!!!!!!!

2. Straight bets on sides and totals in Pro or NCAA football for the game, 1st half or 2nd half. You can also play 6 point teasers using TheGreek's rules. No scaling so all plays have to be -110 or more. So you can't play -115 but you can play +105. All plays at the current line at TheGreek. This is done so if a guy like img gets in that it's easy to look at a log.

3. Up to you.

Ganch serves as the Judge.

[raiders72002]

10-1 @ 60% over 200 plays with a $50 max in case a couple of guys want to take a shot at this.

pushes count as no play.

[Ganchrow]

Well there are multiple ways a contestant might choose to equate the two, each with their own unique set of complications.

There's no right or wrong ... it's just a matter of carefully defining one's terms.

Using Justin's methodology, for example, what win % at -200 would one equate with a 79% win percentage at -110?

For example, using Justin's equi-edge methodology methodology, a 56% bogey at -110 would equate to a 71.273% bogey at -200.

A 54% picker at -110, using the equi-edge methodology, would equate to a 68.727% picker at -200.

The 54% picker betting +200 on 58% or more of -110 games would be making the bet at an edge of 14.82%.

By contrast, the 68.727% picker betting +200 on 71.273% or more of -200 games would be making the bet at an edge of -16.622%.

[raiders72002]

img special : 3-1 for 55% over 200 plays. No HTs. If img hits 45% or less he leaves SBR.

[Dark Horse]

I may still take you up on your offer, raiders, depending on what you work out with Justin. You're setting yourself up bigtime.

[raiders72002]

You're setting yourself up bigtime.

true, I wouldn't do this at any other forum because I'd get eaten alive. Here at SBR it's a different story.

[raiders72002]

One change, no HTs. It's easier to look at logs for full games in case of disputes. Straight bets for the full game and 6 point teasers for NCAA and the NFL.

[Dark Horse]

10-1 @ 60% over 200 plays with a $50 max in case a couple of guys want to take a shot at this.

pushes count as no play.

A $50 max?

Forget this.

[Ganchrow]

A $50 max?

Forget this.

I think he means a $50 max for the 10:1 bet on ≥60% only.

[Dark Horse]

I know.

[RickySteve]

percentage wise, only the RX is worse than SBR.

False.

[Ganchrow]

I know.

Well it is does have the lowest break-even pick probability of the three bets Raiders proposed.

I suspect you could manage to convince him to increase his stated limit.

[Iwinyourmoney]

Ill take 4-1 on 58% with my football bankroll, $12,000

[raiders72002]

I think he means a $50 max for the 10:1 bet on ≥60% only.

correct

$5k limit on other bets. No owsies, you must post up funds.

[Iwinyourmoney]

correct

$5k limit on other bets. No owsies, you must post up funds.

So I take it you turn down my offer?

[Ganchrow]

So I take it you turn down my offer?

I think he's saying he'll bet you up to $5K.

[raiders72002]

So I take it you turn down my offer?

Post it up and let's go. You can't put up $100 and you're pretending to have $12k.

For serious guys the limit is $5k but for an idiot that has no chance of winning we'll make it more.

[Illusion]

What's up raiders? Football season hasn't even begun and I see you are already hustling.

I sure hope you get a challenger because that sounds like easy money for you brother.

[raiders72002]

Things are going great Illusion. You have to love football season. Here's to a big football season.

[raiders72002]

I sure hope you get a challenger because that sounds like easy money for you brother.

Guys here are all talk. I can't see anyone accepting.

[Justin7]

No props? No live betting?

Teasers... You want them graded by team at -241, or you want actual bets? Realize, I could make 100 unique teaser bets this week alone, and and have EV on your wager.

[RickySteve]

Realize, I could make 100 unique teaser bets this week alone, and and have EV on your wager.

You have EV playing keno too.

[Justin7]

Ricky -

Are you suggesting there isn't value in teasers this week?

[RickySteve]

Ricky -

Are you suggesting there isn't value in teasers this week?

There is unquestionably value in every teaser. Some of them this week might even be positive.

[imgv94]

Raiders is all talk..

[Dark Horse]

He's probably smarter than you may think. He's trying to piss people off, in other threads, so that they will get into a pissing contest and accept his challenge. Knowing full well that most gamblers will not beat 56%.

As I mentioned earlier, if SBR could make this into a contest, where people would buy in so that we could have some real price money, that would be a lot more interesting than a shot to double your money.

[raiders72002]

Justin- You lost me a little here. I was allowing 2 team 6 point teasers. What type of teasers were you talking about?

I don't think that prop bets should be included since the limits are lower on prop bets.

Img- I accepted your offer. I don't care if you want in for $50. I just want to have some fun with this.

[raiders72002]

He's probably smarter than you may think

You are over rating me. I'm a complete idiot. I'm just smarter than the guys on this forum.

[rm18]

I think he means he thinks he can win the bet teasing every preseason game this week maybe