Guys, No One will win 60% of the time

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  • statnerds
    SBR MVP
    • 09-23-09
    • 4047

    #1
    Guys, No One will win 60% of the time
    long term

    or 59%

    or 58%

    or 57%

    if you are setting a goal of hitting 60% or finding a handicapper that can do it, quit gambling now. your sights are set too high. every capper will have losing weeks, months even seasons.

    if you find any capper that can hit 55% over 1,000 plays you had better get our your knee pads.

    fukk sharps. they don't hit 60% either, which should be a huge wake-up call. people blindly put so much importance on what sharps think, or play, but don't stop and think they lose ~45% of their bets.

    either you can fukking cap games or you can't. if you can, study and improve everyday. if you can't, you sure as shit better find someone that can and for christ's sake learn some fukking money management. sick of seeing threads about guys on tilt and getting crushed and swearing they will quit gambling with some sob story bullshit. it is a grind and if you are betting more than 3% on any play you deserve to be fukking broke, but i don't deserve to hear you fukking whine about it cause you will be making the same mistakes next time as well

    sorry

    had to be said
  • SamsNCharge99
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-22-08
    • 41242

    #2
    thanks...I guess
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    • GiveMeaBJ
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 09-08-09
      • 8449

      #3
      I'm out to prove you wrong. I am hitting 60.00% over my last 91 plays.


      Note: I know the odds of me continuing are highly, highly unlikely but you don't have to take the fun out of it.
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      • smitch124
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 05-19-08
        • 12566

        #4
        Well what they say is if you are hitting over 60% long term you aren't betting enough games....
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        • nobs
          Restricted User
          • 08-31-09
          • 4216

          #5
          You're right. Everyone has hot streaks where we think we can do it, but noone can consistently hit even 55%. Anyone who says they do is kidding themselves.

          Yes, we will all have runs where we win 35 out of 50, maybe even 40 out of 50, but long term no way anyone tops 55%.

          I have been around these forums for over 15 years and there have been hundreds of thousands who claim it but if you track them long enough its amazing how they always end up at 50% and down a lot of juice.

          Like Josh Thompson ( he is just the latest ). He came to the board talking about how he was up over 200K gambling over the years, but amazingly when he posts his plays on the board he quickly lost his entire bankroll. LOL. Never heard that before. But dont worry, he only lost 25K when the board was tracking, thats nothing compared to the 200 K he won while there was no tracking or proof.
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          • whatsgood5
            Restricted User
            • 10-13-09
            • 15359

            #6
            Agreed, I think 55 is damn near the best you'll find
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #7
              Your lucky if you hit 52%
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              • GELATINOUS CUBE
                SBR MVP
                • 08-09-09
                • 4534

                #8
                Well with that attitude, you guys will definitely hit about 50%.
                blog '09-'10: 37-16: +$31,900
                mlb 2010; 16-12: +$4,540
                gellyhoops 2010: 10-6 +$3,150
                overall: 63-34 +$40,290
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                • james4512
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-27-08
                  • 3707

                  #9
                  you cant because you go by stats instead of strengths and weaknesses
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                  • GELATINOUS CUBE
                    SBR MVP
                    • 08-09-09
                    • 4534

                    #10
                    Anyway, i'm above 52, 55, maybe even 60% for the last year and a half.
                    blog '09-'10: 37-16: +$31,900
                    mlb 2010; 16-12: +$4,540
                    gellyhoops 2010: 10-6 +$3,150
                    overall: 63-34 +$40,290
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                    • GELATINOUS CUBE
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-09-09
                      • 4534

                      #11
                      try to just put up streaks... when you have the time:

                      FINAL BLOGNOSTICATION RECORD: NOVEMBER 2009 - DECEMBER 2009
                      18-5-3. 78.2% CAPPING / + 14.7 UNITS. / + $14,700.00.
                      12/25 TENNESSEE TITANS -3: LOST -$1100.
                      12/19 SACRAMENTO KINGS +6.5: WON +$1000.
                      SACRAMENTO KINGS UNDER 202: WON +$1000.
                      12/16 MILWAKUEE BUCKS +5.5: WON +$1000.
                      MILWAUKEE BUCKS UNDER 198: LOST -$1100.
                      12/15 WASHINGTON WIZARDS +2: PUSH +$0.
                      12/13 OKLAHOMA CITY THUNDER +3: LOST -$1100.
                      OKLAHOMA CITY THUNDER OVER 191: PUSH +$0.
                      12/12 DALLAS STARS +120: LOST -$1000.
                      12/10 TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS/BOSTON BRUINS OVER 6: WON +$1100.
                      BOSTON BRUINS -175 + TORONTO/BOSTON OVER 6 PARLAY: WON +$2249.
                      12/9 S.A. SPURS FIRST HALF -8: WON +$1000.
                      S.A. SPURS -12 WON +$1000.
                      12/7 UMASS +16: LOST -$1100.
                      UMASS OVER 154: PUSH +$0.
                      11/26 DALLAS MAVERICKS +4: WON +$1000.
                      DALLAS/HOUSTON OVER 200: WON +$1000.
                      11/24 MONTREAL CANADIENS -135: WON +$1000.
                      MONTREAL CANADIENS OVER 5.5: WON +$1000.
                      11/18 FLORIDA PANTHERS +175 WON +$1750.
                      FLORIDA PANTHERS OVER 5.5 WON +$1000.
                      11/9 PITTSBURG STEELERS -3: WON +$1000.
                      PITTSBURG STEELERS UNDER 40: WON +$1000.
                      11/8 MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES +4: WON +$1000.
                      MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES OVER 201: WON +$1000.
                      11/3 MINNESOTA T-WOLVES +8: WON +$1000.

                      ...then when you cool off, take a break from gambling for a minute.
                      blog '09-'10: 37-16: +$31,900
                      mlb 2010; 16-12: +$4,540
                      gellyhoops 2010: 10-6 +$3,150
                      overall: 63-34 +$40,290
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                      • Sawyer
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 06-01-09
                        • 7761

                        #12
                        I'm %57 after 948 bets. You can check out my record at Fcbet.

                        %57-58 is possible on the long run but %60 is very hard. However, you'll have %60 months, %55 months and %52 months.. Average should make something between 55-57 if you're a good capper..
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                        • nobs
                          Restricted User
                          • 08-31-09
                          • 4216

                          #13
                          Originally posted by james4512
                          you cant because you go by stats instead of strengths and weaknesses

                          LOL.

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                          • nobs
                            Restricted User
                            • 08-31-09
                            • 4216

                            #14
                            Damn and I thought I was a degenerate.
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                            • pimike
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 03-23-08
                              • 37140

                              #15
                              Well I disagree here. I have hit 60% and up for the past few years.

                              Yes it can be done. However you don't need to hit that high to make money each year.



                              Hurry up Baseball!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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                              • nobs
                                Restricted User
                                • 08-31-09
                                • 4216

                                #16
                                You guys are deluded.
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                                • statnerds
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-23-09
                                  • 4047

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Sawyer
                                  I'm %57 after 948 bets. You can check out my record at Fcbet.
                                  i don't know if i should say share that shit or ask what the fukk fcbet is....
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                                  • DeluxeLiner
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-29-08
                                    • 4132

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                    Your lucky if you hit 52%
                                    matchbook
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                                    • Masu485
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 08-14-08
                                      • 7700

                                      #19
                                      Mathimatically it's possible to hit even 100% although the odds are more likely that you'll hit around 50. Still NOTHING is mathimatically impossible here, and not everyone will have to play so many games to eventually even out at 50. Some people can be lucky and hit 60% over two seasons.
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                                      • xxdjstriderxx
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-25-08
                                        • 4740

                                        #20
                                        proper bet sizing > w-l record

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                                        • harlee71
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 12-02-09
                                          • 7202

                                          #21
                                          I just try and do my best!
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                                          • JohnAnthony
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 04-30-09
                                            • 5110

                                            #22
                                            I want this guy to post moar.
                                            "I have never seen a wild thing feel sorry for itself. A little bird will fall dead, frozen from a bough, without ever having felt sorry for itself."

                                            - D.H. Lawrence
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                                            • statnerds
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-23-09
                                              • 4047

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by james4512
                                              you cant because you go by stats instead of strengths and weaknesses
                                              Sorry i missed this first time. good one. where would you start when you know that in the NFL teams that win ITS,

                                              Win SU 69% and

                                              Win ATS 64%
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                                              • lakerboy
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 04-02-09
                                                • 94382

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by xxdjstriderxx
                                                proper bet sizing > w-l record


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                                                • MJT1212
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 02-16-09
                                                  • 5124

                                                  #25
                                                  PROPER BET SIZING WILL HAVE YOU WINNING MONEY, **** W-L

                                                  I'f I go 1-20 but bet 1000 on the 1 win and 10x19 on the other games I'm still doing GREAT. I know that is obsurd but you get the picture, by just doing 2 units on stronger bets and 1 on lesser will have you winning a great deal of money at 50 Percent W-L.

                                                  Agreed Strider
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                                                  • WileOut
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-04-07
                                                    • 3844

                                                    #26
                                                    This depends on a few variables. If you bet like a madman then no you wont hit 60%. But I know of one person who is 1-0 in his lifetime betting sports, 100% win percentage, and is up 30k.

                                                    Those people who bet few games can obtain percentages like 60% all the way up to 100%. If you bet everyday then you have to hope for 54-55%.
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                                                    • Sawyer
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 06-01-09
                                                      • 7761

                                                      #27
                                                      Winning percentage is a little bit overrated in my opinion.

                                                      It's not very important.

                                                      Of course, you can pick %60 or even %70! If you're playing on odds like -500 or -700, LoL!

                                                      You can hit %60-70 but you may not make any money..
                                                      On the other side, you can make nice profit even with a %40 winning percentage if the odds are good..

                                                      So what matters most is the Total Profit you made in the end

                                                      PS: But it's very very hard to make %60 ATS (US Sports) on the long run.
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                                                      • statnerds
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-23-09
                                                        • 4047

                                                        #28
                                                        good shit guys. thought i would just write it here instead of starting a new thread about money management. flat betting will not maximize your profit. but chasing or doubling down will leave you broke sooner or later. but everyone will have a losing streak at some point and you have to avoid ruin so let's keep those bets small in relation to our BR fellas.
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                                                        • jayc88
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 12-30-07
                                                          • 6785

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by pimike
                                                          Well I disagree here. I have hit 60% and up for the past few years. Yes it can be done. However you don't need to hit that high to make money each year. Hurry up Baseball!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                          but not on -110 spreads
                                                          forget about it, it is impossible to hit 60 % on spreads
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                                                          • milwaukee mike
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 08-22-07
                                                            • 26914

                                                            #30
                                                            i think winning percentage is ridiculously overrated.
                                                            with bonuses all you have to do is hit 50% to make a lot of money in the long run.

                                                            it's as simple as this:
                                                            with bonus whoring and cross betting, after a million bets, you have a 100% chance of being way ahead
                                                            without bonuses, after a million bets you have a 99%+ chance of being behind

                                                            i'm not sure why almost every single sports bettor/handicapper doesn't understand this or even if they do understand it, they waste so much more time capping games than they do getting bonuses.
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                                                            • Fishhead
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 08-11-05
                                                              • 40179

                                                              #31
                                                              The facts are if one can hit a mere 53%, they will be rich beyond their dreams............THESE ARE THE FACTS.
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                                                              • SBR_John
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 07-12-05
                                                                • 16471

                                                                #32
                                                                Cappers can not hit 60% because they bet too many plays. Think about it; in theory if you could cap and only play games that given the line you have a 60% chance of winning then it is possible to win at a 60% clip. But it may not be as profitable as 56% because the amount of plays that you can find that have a 60% chance of winning are rare. Of course you need a capping model and the ability to pass on an entire card if no plays meet the model criteria. Most guys force a play if they can't find one through their capping filter. These plays are juiced coin flips that will negate good solid capping work. Hence; dont bet too many plays, dont force it. Dont bet on juiced coin flips.
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                                                                • pimike
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 03-23-08
                                                                  • 37140

                                                                  #33
                                                                  John has called it

                                                                  To many guys are betting games for ACTION control you're plays.
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                                                                  • maersksealand
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-17-09
                                                                    • 1673

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by statnerds
                                                                    long term

                                                                    or 59%

                                                                    or 58%

                                                                    or 57%

                                                                    if you are setting a goal of hitting 60% or finding a handicapper that can do it, quit gambling now. your sights are set too high. every capper will have losing weeks, months even seasons.

                                                                    if you find any capper that can hit 55% over 1,000 plays you had better get our your knee pads.

                                                                    fukk sharps. they don't hit 60% either, which should be a huge wake-up call. people blindly put so much importance on what sharps think, or play, but don't stop and think they lose ~45% of their bets.

                                                                    either you can fukking cap games or you can't. if you can, study and improve everyday. if you can't, you sure as shit better find someone that can and for christ's sake learn some fukking money management. sick of seeing threads about guys on tilt and getting crushed and swearing they will quit gambling with some sob story bullshit. it is a grind and if you are betting more than 3% on any play you deserve to be fukking broke, but i don't deserve to hear you fukking whine about it cause you will be making the same mistakes next time as well

                                                                    sorry

                                                                    had to be said

                                                                    Whoever bet more then 3 games a week will never make money. Enough said.
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                                                                    • JohnAnthony
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 04-30-09
                                                                      • 5110

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Whoever bets more then 3 games a week will never make money. Enough said.
                                                                      "I have never seen a wild thing feel sorry for itself. A little bird will fall dead, frozen from a bough, without ever having felt sorry for itself."

                                                                      - D.H. Lawrence
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