Do the San Diego Chargers regret losing Drew Brees?

Tree Rollins · 02-08-10, 10:00 PM

Brees was playing so well when they got rid of him. I couldn't understand the decision. Obviously, they saw the potential in Rivers. It seems like he's struggling to win the big games right now.

iceminers26 · 02-08-10, 10:02 PM

Its easy to say this now with the way things panned out, but I have always thought Brees was the far better QB over Rivers.

ZBOIZ · 02-08-10, 10:03 PM

dumb move, but I love it

THEGREAT30 · 02-08-10, 10:15 PM

no, Brees has been the starting QB for a playoff team in just 3 of his 9 years, don't blow him out of proportion

Tree Rollins · 02-08-10, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by THEGREAT30

no, Brees has been the starting QB for a playoff team in just 3 of his 9 years, don't blow him out of proportion

True, but he did join a horrendous New Orleans team. He had to sacrifice a few years of playoffs before they could turn that team around.

Tree Rollins · 02-08-10, 10:23 PM

Originally posted by THEGREAT30

no, Brees has been the starting QB for a playoff team in just 3 of his 9 years, don't blow him out of proportion

I think a lot of that has to do with the situations he was in. The chargers were a young team building for the future. When their talent started to develop, he was shipped out. The Saints were garbage for he and Sean payton got there.

wisky · 02-08-10, 10:58 PM

Chargers are pretenders on the field and off the field.

Jimmy0607 · 02-08-10, 11:12 PM

Yes

tltaylor89 · 02-08-10, 11:14 PM

LOL they had 2 superbowl quarterbacks

Tree Rollins · 02-08-10, 11:17 PM

Originally posted by tltaylor89

LOL they had 2 superbowl quarterbacks

They did get 2 first round picks for Brees, but damn, that's a lot of talent to have at QB in the nfl.

seaborneq · 02-08-10, 11:17 PM

The Chargers and the Saints both made the right moves. Just as the Packers did with Rodgers.

Tilt360 · 02-08-10, 11:18 PM

The Chargers did the right thing, they just need another coach and a new RB.

Tree Rollins · 02-08-10, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by seaborneq

The Chargers and the Saints both made the right moves. Just as the Packers did with Rodgers.

I agree. I think both teams are happy with where they are.

pavyracer · 02-08-10, 11:20 PM

Brees didn't win the game last night. Sean Payton did. So unless Chargers had a sharp coach Brees would still have sucked like Rivers did because of the incompetent coach they have.

Tree Rollins · 02-08-10, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Brees didn't win the game last night. Sean Payton did. So unless Chargers had a sharp coach Brees would still have sucked like Rivers did because of the incompetent coach they have.

This situation almost pisses me off as much as the situation with the Cowboys. Dallas is my team and they played well toward the end of the season, but does anyone really see them winning a super bowl with Wade Phillips as the head coach? same deal with Norv Turner. Hard to see a Norv Turner coached team winning a Super Bowl, no matter how much talent they have.

3PtShooter · 02-08-10, 11:28 PM

kinda think shoulder injury ,,,and how SD thought breeze would hold up thru several seasons , just kept the wrong one ,,,so far

xxxvince · 02-09-10, 12:16 AM

rivers will be better than brees at the end

lakerboy · 02-09-10, 01:03 AM

Chargers gave up Brees and Eli told them to fukk off and they both got rings while sd is stuck with rivers who is good but not good enough.

Rixsaw · 02-09-10, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by xxxvince

rivers will be better than brees at the end

Highly doubt it. He doesn't have leadership quality. The same goes for Tony Romo.

tltaylor89 · 02-09-10, 01:13 AM

Chargers could have 3 trophys by now

thechaoz · 02-09-10, 03:09 AM

lulz the Chargers if they just kept Marty and Breeze and that stupid GM stayed out of the way...not a fan so it's funny to watch...just like the Raiders.....the Chargers are easily the most talented team to never accomplish squat

Shortstop · 02-09-10, 03:09 AM

Tough to say. Hindsight is always 20/20...

brandon m · 02-09-10, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by Tree Rollins

Brees was playing so well when they got rid of him. I couldn't understand the decision. Obviously, they saw the potential in Rivers. It seems like he's struggling to win the big games right now.

What the Chargers saw was Brees being fresh off some nice shoulder surgery and a very good possibility he wouldn't be the same when he came back. Kind of like Chad Pennington. The Chargers made the right choice, Rivers was a sure bet to be at least a serviceable starter, whereas Brees might not have ever recovered from the surgeries. Hind sight is always 20/20 though, but honestly I would rather have Rivers, never liked Brees for some reason.

poochiecollins · 02-09-10, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by THEGREAT30

no, Brees has been the starting QB for a playoff team in just 3 of his 9 years, don't blow him out of proportion

It's a team sport.

poochiecollins · 02-09-10, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by seaborneq

The Chargers and the Saints both made the right moves. Just as the Packers did with Rodgers.

I disagree. The Packers dealing Favre, as opposed to trading Rodgers, was a good move because Favre would probably be retired now, they saved millions, they weren't on the verge of a Super Bowl, and Rodgers is pretty young. It's much less clear in this case.

poochiecollins · 02-09-10, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Chargers gave up Brees and Eli told them to fukk off and they both got rings while sd is stuck with rivers who is good but not good enough.

I would've said SD clearly won that Manning-Rivers trade. Are you the guy that said GB should have kept Favre, in hindsight, because he has a better record than Rodgers? :-p

tomcast · 02-09-10, 01:38 PM

Chargers would be much better off with Brees.

Dark Horse · 02-10-10, 01:58 AM

Chargers front office has a rare ability to mess up winning situations. They let Brees go. It took Rivers at least two years to get to the level Brees was playing at then. They let Lorenzo Neal go. That was the end of LT, the 'legend'. LT continues to think he's much better than he really is. Without Neal he's average. They hired Turner... Why?! Front office acts like the window of opportunity will always be there. It doesn't work that way.

BigdaddyQH · 02-10-10, 10:57 AM

The fact of the matter is that it would NOT matter who the Charger QB is. They simply have a losers mentality. The Chargers made the right decision. Brees and Rivers are very close when it comes to ability. The Chargers got two #1 draft picks. The Chargers have a losers mentality when it comes to the playoffs. These players have losing embedded in their minds. Unlike teams who never win anything, and then come up with a super season (ala the Saints), the Chargers have won their conference four years in a row, yet have a 3-4 playoff record, and no Superbowl visits. Tis past season, after starting 2-3, the Bolts ran off 11 straight wins, only to lose to the Jets in their first playoff game. The Chargers are 1-3 in home playoff games since 2004.

The only way the Chargers get to the Superbowl is by dismantling this team. L.T. is gone. It is time for Merriman to go, along with the vast majority of the defense. A winning coach would be nice also, thought to Turner's credit, he has won as many playoff games as he has lost, a huge improvment from Marty S. This is Rivers team now, just like the Saints are Brees team now. Switch these two around and the results would have been the same for both teams.

lakerboy · 02-10-10, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by poochiecollins

I would've said SD clearly won that Manning-Rivers trade. Are you the guy that said GB should have kept Favre, in hindsight, because he has a better record than Rodgers? :-p

I aint that gut that bettillimbroke. That trade ahs no comparison as these 2 are young and same age. I think Eli has done a little more than Rivers, you people need to stop looking at stats only. Eli won a superbowl with an average wild card team for crying out loud and is a very good qb. Rivers is good and has the fire to win but dont go off and tell me Eli is no good cause the Giants have had loads of injuries this past season including Eli. Seriously people winning is all that matters.

BigdaddyQH · 02-10-10, 03:57 PM

That is my entire point. San Diego has a losers mentality when it comes to the playoffs. Losers looks for ways to lose. Winners look for ways to win.

poochiecollins · 02-10-10, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

The fact of the matter is that it would NOT matter who the Charger QB is. They simply have a losers mentality. The Chargers made the right decision. Brees and Rivers are very close when it comes to ability. The Chargers got two #1 draft picks. The Chargers have a losers mentality when it comes to the playoffs. These players have losing embedded in their minds. Unlike teams who never win anything, and then come up with a super season (ala the Saints), the Chargers have won their conference four years in a row, yet have a 3-4 playoff record, and no Superbowl visits. Tis past season, after starting 2-3, the Bolts ran off 11 straight wins, only to lose to the Jets in their first playoff game. The Chargers are 1-3 in home playoff games since 2004. The only way the Chargers get to the Superbowl is by dismantling this team. L.T. is gone. It is time for Merriman to go, along with the vast majority of the defense. A winning coach would be nice also, thought to Turner's credit, he has won as many playoff games as he has lost, a huge improvment from Marty S. This is Rivers team now, just like the Saints are Brees team now. Switch these two around and the results would have been the same for both teams.

Not to sound like an ass, but this post doesn't make much sense. If you flip a coin four times, and it comes up heads three, does tails have a "losers mentality"? "Losing embedded in their minds"? What are you basing this on? "Losers looks for ways to lose. Winners look for ways to win"? Have more cliches?

I remember some trend (don't know if it still applies) of SD winning most of their spreads against teams with winning records. They upset the Colts a couple years ago in the first round. Regarding the SD-NY game, according to a source, road teams that won their Week 18 playoff game on the road were 7-0 ATS against teams on a first round bye the past few years (I'd guess it's 8-1 now). NY winning the spread was likely, and they would have lost if SD's kicker didn't choke. Winning the Super Bowl takes a fair bit of luck, even for the best teams. This is why #1 seeds are underdogs to win the SB from the beginning of the playoffs the high majority of the time.

poochiecollins · 02-10-10, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

I aint that gut that bettillimbroke. That trade ahs no comparison as these 2 are young and same age. I think Eli has done a little more than Rivers, you people need to stop looking at stats only. Eli won a superbowl with an average wild card team for crying out loud and is a very good qb. Rivers is good and has the fire to win but dont go off and tell me Eli is no good cause the Giants have had loads of injuries this past season including Eli. Seriously people winning is all that matters.

Actually, you could only look at stats if there were such available of performance in "clutch" situations. To go beyond that, such as gauging effect on other players, you'd need statements from other players. I don't know of such figures, however, so going with what I know, their difference in stats is great enough that you'd have to say Rivers had a much better offensive supporting cast throughout his career than E. Manning. Who said the NYG were an "average wild card team" when they won the SB? From what I hear, they've had a very good offensive and defensive lines for years, which are the two most important aspects in football after the quarterback.

I'm not saying Eli sucks, and I was never one of those guys who thought he didn't have it years ago just because he looked like a kid. I consider myself pretty objective. I haven't seen enough evidence that he's good enough to warrant his contract or favorable comparisons to consensus top notch quarterbacks.

poochiecollins · 02-10-10, 09:39 PM

Originally posted by Dark Horse

Chargers front office has a rare ability to mess up winning situations. They let Brees go. It took Rivers at least two years to get to the level Brees was playing at then. They let Lorenzo Neal go. That was the end of LT, the 'legend'. LT continues to think he's much better than he really is. Without Neal he's average. They hired Turner... Why?! Front office acts like the window of opportunity will always be there. It doesn't work that way.

I disagree that it's obvious that Brees is better than Rivers. Look at their career stats. Agreed with rest, generally. I think running backs are the most overrated players in football. There are reasons that their average pay is middle-tier and similar to that of wideouts. Offensive linemen should win MVP more than RBs.