Should Pinnacle be upgraded to a tripple A+

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  • sean72
    SBR High Roller
    • 07-07-07
    • 109

    #1
    Should Pinnacle be upgraded to a tripple A+
    Since the left the US market and the other big books stayed doesnt this make them the safest of all books to play at
  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    No

    Matchbook is the safest place to play because it is an exchange with no risk on book end

    Pinnacle has massive risks and legal issues
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    • sean72
      SBR High Roller
      • 07-07-07
      • 109

      #3
      What legal issues
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      • LT Profits
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-27-06
        • 90963

        #4
        Well for one, employing runners in the US. No matter what the smokesceen, the REAL reason they left USA is they got caught.
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        • TheOffshoreGambler
          SBR High Roller
          • 07-20-07
          • 105

          #5
          Wouldnt we have heard of legal issues by now if they had any?
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          • Omnivorous Frog
            SBR Sharp
            • 08-02-07
            • 255

            #6
            Why are you so concerned about upgrading or downgrading books? Is not A+ good enough for you? No one on any of these boards has any idea why Pinnacle left the American market. It is all merely speculation. And your current anti US stance is growing tiresome. I know you think we are a bunch of lack of empathy rednecks but do you have to show us a constant display of feeblemindedness with every post?

            A+ is the best, that should suffice for now. Did you brownnose and grovel for your teachers to not just give you an A+ but a triple A +, a grade that never existed? I sure hope the class was not English, spelling or grammar, because you would get failing marks in a second grade class. Triple, one P!

            You look like more of a shitstarter, an agenda driven attention seeker. Another nonsensical thread by the resident mush.
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            • moses millsap
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-25-05
              • 8289

              #7
              Originally posted by Omnivorous Frog
              A+ is the best, that should suffice for now. Did you brownnose and grovel for your teachers to not just give you an A+ but a triple A +, a grade that never existed? I sure hope the class was not English, spelling or grammar, because you would get failing marks in a second grade class. Triple, one P!
              I always had aspirations of receiving a grade of F+, but none of my teachers in my youth ever thought outside the box.
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              • Omnivorous Frog
                SBR Sharp
                • 08-02-07
                • 255

                #8
                I spent more time hunting, fishing and gambling than I did going to school. Fishing was my passion, and I always wanted to go pro. But I had difficulties baiting. Could not stick that worm on the hook, watch it bleed brown and wriggle. I would never acheive master ranking, my F+ was baiting, hence my lifelong dream of being a pro masterbaiter never worked out.
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                • DrunkenLullaby
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-30-07
                  • 1631

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Omnivorous Frog
                  Why are you so concerned about upgrading or downgrading books? Is not A+ good enough for you? No one on any of these boards has any idea why Pinnacle left the American market. It is all merely speculation. And your current anti US stance is growing tiresome. I know you think we are a bunch of lack of empathy rednecks but do you have to show us a constant display of feeblemindedness with every post?

                  A+ is the best, that should suffice for now. Did you brownnose and grovel for your teachers to not just give you an A+ but a triple A +, a grade that never existed? I sure hope the class was not English, spelling or grammar, because you would get failing marks in a second grade class. Triple, one P!

                  You look like more of a shitstarter, an agenda driven attention seeker. Another nonsensical thread by the resident mush.
                  OF, I am neither pro or anti-Sean, but clearly this thread was in response to JJ's ridiculous thread questioning whether Pinny should be downgraded because they DON'T serve Americans. That thread is a few days old & probably (thankfully) has disappeared from sight.

                  Edit: Never mind, I see you've found that thread. Alas, the drivel is still on page 1.
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                  • Omnivorous Frog
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 08-02-07
                    • 255

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DrunkenLullaby
                    OF, I am neither pro or anti-Sean, but clearly this thread was in response to JJ's ridiculous thread questioning whether Pinny should be downgraded because they DON'T serve Americans. That thread is a few days old & probably (thankfully) has disappeared from sight.
                    Sadly since I am anti-Sean1-72 but also honest, I think you are right. Do two wrongs make a right? I could give him a pass here on that alone but his overall contribution to anything other than filling the drivel bucket is questionable. In both nonsensical threads I said the same thing, they are still an A+ book, American customers or not.

                    As far as approving of this bandwidth wasters motivation and results, I cannot imagine a forum where jj posts drama/satire threads and someone posts satirical threads to satire jj's satire. Would have to put on my chest waders to view.

                    More rubbish from the feeble one.



                    Edit: Never mind, I see you've found that thread. Alas, the drivel is still on page 1. My Bad
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      well any book has legal issues period
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                      • SBR Lou
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 08-02-07
                        • 37863

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Omnivorous Frog
                        A+ is the best, that should suffice for now. Did you brownnose and grovel for your teachers to not just give you an A+ but a triple A +, a grade that never existed? I sure hope the class was not English, spelling or grammar, because you would get failing marks in a second grade class. Triple, one P!
                        Someone remind me not to get on Frogs bad side.
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                        • Omnivorous Frog
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 08-02-07
                          • 255

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          well any book has legal issues period

                          I'll modify this to any US facing book. That line has not been crossed yet.
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                          • Lucas
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-20-05
                            • 1062

                            #14
                            low 5 fig payment reached my neteller account within 5 minutes
                            good old times
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                            • sean72
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 07-07-07
                              • 109

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Omnivorous Frog
                              I spent more time hunting, fishing and gambling than I did going to school. Fishing was my passion, and I always wanted to go pro. But I had difficulties baiting. Could not stick that worm on the hook, watch it bleed brown and wriggle. I would never acheive master ranking, my F+ was baiting, hence my lifelong dream of being a pro masterbaiter never worked out.
                              Man Floggy I told you I,m just not interested. Sorry Flogg man I like girls can you please stop PM me.

                              I told you maybe JJ and you can get together

                              Once again sorry but chicks do it for me not floggs
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                              • Omnivorous Frog
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 08-02-07
                                • 255

                                #16
                                Since that was totally unfunny the first time you tried it, it is just insipid now. But it matches your posts, your topics, spelling and grammar. Do you have any redeeming qualities?
                                Resulting to you are gay, dragging jj into it and pretending to like girls is middle school humor. About the same as your other abilities.
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                                • sean72
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 07-07-07
                                  • 109

                                  #17
                                  You have to get over me man JJ is more your type
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                                  • Omnivorous Frog
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 08-02-07
                                    • 255

                                    #18
                                    Let's see, that is the 3rd attempt to get me to bash or say something derogatory about jj. If that is what you want, grow some balls and do it yourself. Trying to stir shit between me and jj will not work at all. Been around the forums a bit too long to fall for your feeble attempts of agitation. Again, your agenda is transparent.
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                                    • sean72
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 07-07-07
                                      • 109

                                      #19
                                      If shit stiring is some kind of slang you use for love makeing then Please keep it between you and JJ
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                                      • SBR_John
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 07-12-05
                                        • 16471

                                        #20
                                        I dont think they are AAA assuming we even had that rating.

                                        They are virtually unknown in the rest of the world. If they were not flush with cash from years of earnings they may be closer to a downgrade than an upgrade.

                                        It will take them at least another 2 years and probablly 3 years to just get back to where they were when they left the US market. Also, there is some concern that their trading profits will be as good as they were. I suspect they will not be.

                                        Another risk is there could be a change in management. This is a very specialized operation. The managing directors are older now and extremely wealthy.
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                                        • Scorpion
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-04-05
                                          • 7797

                                          #21
                                          I think we should change our grading system!
                                          It confuses simple people!
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                                          • Scorpion
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 09-04-05
                                            • 7797

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                            No

                                            Matchbook is the safest place to play because it is an exchange with no risk on book end

                                            Pinnacle has massive risks and legal issues
                                            Sharp post Hank, as always!
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                                            • Omnivorous Frog
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 08-02-07
                                              • 255

                                              #23
                                              Pinnacle reached it's Pinnacle before their untimely exit. I am skeptical we will see that from them, or any other book for that matter, ever again. But they still are Pinnacle, until they are not. Just do not envision a Cascade type of meltdown here. But this is not a grade for who can play there, or how big were they once, it is where are they now. Still an A+.
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                                              • SBR_John
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 07-12-05
                                                • 16471

                                                #24
                                                Still an A+ and they do hope to return to the US market some day. As do all the books that left. But we will all be old farts or old frogs, as the case may be, when that happens.
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                                                • Zeroed
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 08-05-07
                                                  • 245

                                                  #25
                                                  Still the best, nothing changed.
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                                                  • experte007
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 06-04-07
                                                    • 42

                                                    #26
                                                    I have no problem with the current Pinnacle rating but it is true that outside the states they aren't that well known.
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