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  • bigboydan
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-10-05
    • 55420

    #1
    NCAA wrong to rip gambling but OK beer sales
    talk about hypocritical


    By Tim Dahlberg

    Updated: 8:08 p.m. ET Dec. 7, 2005
    The people who run college sports and the people who allow you to bet on them both have a lot to look forward to in the Rose Bowl.

    The prospect of a true national championship game excites the big conferences and the NCAA. But it’s the Vegas sports books and Internet gambling sites that are really salivating about the matchup between No. 1 USC and No. 2 Texas.

    It’s little wonder why.

    More money will change hands on this game than any college game ever. So much money will be bet on the game that, when all the millions are totaled up, it could approach Super Bowl levels.

    That’s all good for the casinos, which never have a problem taking money from gamblers. And it’s nice for the ardent fans of both USC and Texas, who might like a little more action riding on the game than just bragging rights.

    But it probably will cause much consternation and handwringing inside the NCAA, which regards sports betting as such an evil that it has gone to Congress several times to try and get betting on college sports outlawed.

    The NCAA’s stance might look laudable, but it is largely the byproduct of another era. It’s based on perceptions that sports betting corrupts young athletes and opens the possibility to funny things happening during games.

    That made some sense in the ’40s and ’50s when information didn’t travel so quickly and college sports were true amateur events. But that’s no longer the case in today’s world, where everyone but the players are making money.

    Think the idea of covering the point spread might influence players? How about having to win a game like Notre Dame did against Stanford to guarantee your school a $17 million payout in a BCS bowl?

    Now that’s pressure.

    “The Notre Dame players didn’t have their heads low walking off the field because they didn’t cover the spread,” said Jay Kornegay, who runs the sports book at the Las Vegas Hilton. “They were just very relieved and very excited as they should be to be in a BCS game.”

    They do care about it in Las Vegas, though, where the Trojans are about a touchdown favorite to beat Texas in a game that could generate $40 million in bets locally. And they care about it at the dozens of Internet sites that now make it easy for anyone to wager with the click of a mouse.

    The argument can be made that sports betting shouldn’t be so handy that it can be done in the comfort of a dorm room. But the bigger question is how sports betting hurts college sports.

    The NCAA tried to answer that last year when it did a survey that showed 35 percent of male athletes bet on sports in the previous year.

    OK, so it showed that members of golf teams bet the most. The real shocker, according to the NCAA, was that 1.1 percent of football players reported accepting money to play poorly.

    First of all, 1.1 percent may be the number of jocks who accidentally marked the wrong answer on the survey. It’s hard to imagine any football players being paid money to throw a game in a day and age where information is readily available and oddsmakers carefully monitor betting trends for misconduct.

    There’s simply too much risk, and not enough reward, to try anything fishy.

    With that in mind, the NCAA might be better off focusing its attention on another vice. This one is not only more troubling than sports betting, but is one the organization can do something about.

    Betting on sports may hurt a student’s pocketbook, but alcohol can kill.

    Although the NCAA stakes out a pious stand on sports betting, it looks the other way when it comes to beer companies helping line the pockets of its members. Despite calls by the American Medical Association and others to ban beer advertising on televised games, the NCAA has no problem allowing the ads to be targeted toward impressionable minds.

    The Center for Science in the Public Interest, a nonprofit group that campaigns against beer ads, says 500,000 students suffer alcohol-related injuries every year, and some 1,400 die because of alcohol.

    Meanwhile, beer companies spent $52.2 million in 2003 alone to try to convince those watching college sports to drink their brands.

    “Alcohol is the biggest problem on college campuses and yet they accept money for helping to promote beer drinking,” said George Hacker, the center’s director for alcohol policies. “There are a lot of people very uncomfortable with that.”

    The NCAA has so far resisted growing pressure from some of its member institutions to drop beer ads during March Madness. And it stands mute while the ads run during college bowl games.

    There’s a reason for that, and it’s a big one. The NCAA has a $6 billion contract with CBS that it is not going to risk by asking the network to eliminate beer ads.

    Going after sports betting is easy. The schools don’t have a piece of that action.

    Eliminating the hypocrisy in the NCAA will be a lot tougher.

    © 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

  • Illusion
    Restricted User
    • 08-09-05
    • 25166

    #2
    What a stupid arguement. We're talking about beer ads, what's the problem with that.
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    • bigboydan
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 08-10-05
      • 55420

      #3
      i remember when i went to the sweet 16 games. and, i had to sneak in a 12 pack of beer in my coat. because, they went as far as printing no booze on the tickets back in the late 90's
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      • onlooker
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 08-10-05
        • 36572

        #4
        Originally posted by bigboydan
        i had to sneak in a 12 pack of beer in my coat.
        Been there done that.

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        • Illusion
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          • 08-09-05
          • 25166

          #5
          Originally posted by onlòóker
          I knew that smilie had a purpose.
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          • pags11
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 08-18-05
            • 12264

            #6
            yeah, the NCAA is a pretty big scam itself...
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            • BrentCrude
              SBR MVP
              • 11-16-05
              • 4665

              #7
              Ya,thre are THE MAN'S wherever you go these days and the NCAA is one and the state governments the way they regulate gambling is another and you can find 100's more on all sides of the isle left and right.That's why I choose to be a libertarian that likes as few regulations as need be imposed on me.The internet is the last frontier where some of us freedom lovers can place bets,buy cheap cigarettes etc.and we can stick it to the man.hehe!The state and organizations are nothing but hypocrites looking out for their own interests so all their bureaucrat cronies can make bloated salaries.Look how the state rails against gambling such as private poker games and under the table sportsbooks where people actually have a fair chance to win.Then they sell lottery tickets where you can mindlessly pull a tab or scratch a card to see if you can win when the takeout is 50 percent.Look at the NCAA running ads on t.v.about how the major college sports athletes have to follow strict academic rules and adhere to a code of ethical standards.hehe!Do you honestly believe these kids would get into these colleges with their IQ's even if they were paying customers if they didn't know how to dribble a basketball or catch a football.Hell,the felony rate for these college athletes is 20 times the national average.The reason why they let the beer companies do business with them is because it brings the $$$$$$$It's the same reason they let scheister credit card companies set up stands on campus outside the stadium on game day to lure in broke students who sign their life away getting caught in easy credit ripoff schemes.What a joke about the NCAA not recognizing gambling.Don't they remember the good old days when Bear Bryant coached the Crimson tide and the spread was set so high because they kept their regulars in the game when they were 40 points up with 3 minutes to go to cover the spread to satisfy the alumni.I remember a game where they were 40 points ahead and could have ran out the clock but they called a time out to kick a field goal to cover the spread.Some rich alumni car dealer had a big bet and he would then go and buy a recruit for the program with the winnings.Have all these THE MAN'S have no shame!
              Last edited by BrentCrude; 12-10-05, 02:20 PM.
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              • bigboydan
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 08-10-05
                • 55420

                #8
                Originally posted by pags11
                yeah, the NCAA is a pretty big scam itself...

                i agree to a degree pags. college is supose to be for learning not making money like they have been off of the sweat of there students brow. and, the students that goto these game, should have the right to drink beer if there of legal drinking age. i mean after all, those students are there to support there team.
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                • pags11
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 08-18-05
                  • 12264

                  #9
                  brent and dan,

                  good thoughts here...the damn handbooks for the student athletes are novels...they can't have their own uncle pay for their lunch if he's a coach at say Georgia St...violation...what they are doing to the kid from Kentucky, Childress I believe, is just wrong...
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