Why did the Colts gamble on Philip Rivers ? ‘He can still sling it’

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  • stevenash
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    Why did the Colts gamble on Philip Rivers ? ‘He can still sling it’
    By Zak Keefer
    Dec. 9, 2025
    Updated Dec. 10, 2025 8:39 am EST
    -The Athletic


    The text message rolled in Monday night, while Philip Rivers was shaking off the rust in his right arm.

    “If this report is true, then I’m all in,” Frank Reich, Rivers’ last coach in the NFL, wrote him. “I have no doubt you can do it.”

    The call came Tuesday morning, while the 44-year-old Rivers mulled his decision. He had two radically different options: End his five-year retirement and join an 8-5 Indianapolis Colts team that doesn’t have a healthy quarterback but remains in the thick of the AFC playoff race, or head back home to Alabama, prep for his son’s next high school football season, raise his 10 kids and spend time with his grandson?

    On the phone with Reich, Rivers listed the pros, then the cons. The longer the two spoke, the more Reich could tell which way his old quarterback was leaning.

    “He really wanted to do it,” Reich said.

    Thus, in one of the most stunning un-retirements in league history, Rivers is back in the NFL five years after walking away. He is now most likely the Colts’ best hope of avoiding another gutting late-season collapse.

    Rivers threw it well enough in a closed-door workout Monday night at the team facility to bolster the team’s confidence that he can still play, if only for a few weeks. Indianapolis plans to sign Rivers to the practice squad and will see how the next few days of practice go before deciding if he’s capable of suiting up Sunday in Seattle.

    “Someone asked me, ‘Can this guy still do it physically? Can he throw it?’” Reich said. “I have no doubt he can still sling it. No doubt.”

    Reich, who coached the Colts from 2018-22, just wrapped up his lone season as Stanford’s interim coach.

    As of now, Riley Leonard is the only quarterback on the Colts’ active roster, and the sixth-round rookie out of Notre Dame remains “week-to-week,” per coach Shane Steichen, after suffering a knee injury in Sunday’s loss to Jacksonville. On the practice squad, Rivers will join 29-year-old journeyman Brett Rypien, who’s on his eighth team since 2019 and has started four games in his career. If Leonard can’t go on Sunday — and he most likely cannot — Steichen will have to decide between Rivers and Rypien.

    An easy call, Reich said, though he’s guessing Rivers will spend a week on the practice squad before making his debut.

    “I have no doubt Phil can still play winning football,” Reich said. “Now, it’s a team game, and you got a tough schedule ahead. I don’t know their other quarterbacks well, but from the outside looking in, I do think Philip Rivers gives them the best chance to win the division and get to the playoffs. I really do. I’m not afraid to say that.”

    Rivers last played in the NFL in 2020, gutting through a painful foot injury to lead the Colts to an 11-5 record and playoff berth. He was beloved in the locker room, one of the most respected players to come through the building in a decade. Jonathan Taylor called him “Mr. Rivers.” Former linebacker Shaquille Leonard went with “Uncle Phil.” Former left tackle Anthony Castonzo likened Rivers to “a sixth-grade kid ready to play his first day of football.”

    General manager Chris Ballard, who pulled the trigger on this move Tuesday, has long praised Rivers’ ability to step in and lead a team still reeling from Andrew Luck’s sudden retirement back to the postseason. That remains the Colts’ most recent trip to the playoffs. Any chance the current team has of making it back could rest on an aging Rivers’ ability to fight off Father Time. Again.

    Rivers retired a few weeks after a wild-card loss in Buffalo in January 2021. In the years since, he’s flirted with returning more than once. The Colts called him the following January, gauging his interest in stepping in for starter Carson Wentz, who tested positive for COVID before a Week 17 game against the Raiders. Due largely to league-mandated protocols, the timing didn’t work out, and Rivers never made it back to Indy.

    Two years later, before the San Francisco 49ers ran out of healthy quarterbacks in the 2023 NFC Championship Game in Philadelphia, coach Kyle Shanahan began making contingency plans to lure Rivers out of retirement and start for the team in Super Bowl LVIII against the Kansas City Chiefs.

    By that point, Rivers had decided: He wasn’t going to chase a comeback, but if a team called, he was willing to listen. He signed a ceremonial one-day contract to retire as a member of the Los Angeles Chargers, for whom he played for 16 years, this summer.

    “I think it’s a credit to the Colts to have the boldness to make a move like this,” Reich said. “It’s unconventional. But they know the player, and that’s hard to put a price on.”

    What should ease Rivers’ transition this week is his comfort with Steichen, whom he worked with for six years with the Chargers. Steichen’s scheme in Indianapolis is an offshoot of the one Reich first built in San Diego, the one Rivers ran for years, likely with similar terminology and variations, plus a few of Steichen’s tweaks.

    “Phil was always a pocket passer, anyway,” Reich says. “And there’s no one better at playing the game within the game, of figuring out stuff at the line of scrimmage and knowing how to attack a defense.”

    Getting up to speed with the mental part of it, Reich pointed out, shouldn’t be much of a challenge. The Colts don’t need to change playbooks or play calls.

    “It’ll be familiar for Philip,” Reich said. “It’ll be easy. I have zero concern about that.”

    “As an offensive staff, we take pride in adapting to our players and putting them in position to have success,” offensive coordinator Jim Bob Cooter said Tuesday, dodging questions about Rivers’ arrival. “That’s the name of the game for us. That’s the name of the game in the NFL for everybody.”

    Familiarity was a factor. Some of Rivers’ former teammates are still on the roster. Taylor and Michael Pittman, Jr. were rookies during Rivers’ lone season in Indianapolis. Quenton Nelson and Braden Smith were in their third years, Kenny Moore II his fourth.

    A sterling 7-1 start that had Indianapolis the talk of the NFL has bled into an 8-5 record with a brutal four-game stretch remaining. Daniel Jones is done for the year with a torn Achilles, and backup Anthony Richardson remains on injured reserve after suffering an orbital fracture in his eye in October. In the NFL, this is the definition of desperate times, desperate measures.

    Enter Uncle Phil, a late-season prayer if there ever was one.

    “We know it’s a crazy game and anything could happen, but in that anything … there’s a lot of good, because he’s a great player,” Reich said. “There’s no guarantee it’s a storybook ending. But I give Philip a lot of credit for having the courage just to say yes to something like this.”

    The Colts, too, are risking plenty, likely putting their season in the hands of a player older than both his coach and coordinator. This could go horrendously wrong. Ballard knows the season is on the line, and maybe his job, as well. Signing a 44-year-old quarterback who hasn’t played in five years is some type of gamble. A bigger one would’ve been to sit back and do nothing at all.
  • raiders72001
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    #2
    I'm pulling for Rivers but just heard that he has a good chance to start against Seattle. Rivers is a statue and this could get ugly.
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    • stevenash
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      #3
      Originally posted by raiders72001
      I'm pulling for Rivers but just heard that he has a good chance to start against Seattle. Rivers is a statue and this could get ugly.
      Real ugly, real fast, and I'm a huge Rivers fan myself.

      Steichen's game plan had better be Rivers feeding Jonathan Taylor. stepping back and shouting, "Run, Jon, run."

      Or else Phillip will wind up like the previous five New York Giants QBs, concussed (or worse)
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      • JAKEPEAVY21
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        #4
        Pulling for Rivers as well but the Colts have the toughest remaining schedule in the NFL so this does not look like this will be a successful endeavor. However, I'm rooting for Rivers and hopefully he can win some games for them if he gets in there.

        The reason Rivers fits with the Colts is because Rivers and Colts head coach Shane Steichen were together with the Chargers for years and have remained close friends and talk regularly. Rivers knows the playbook already and can come in and they do not have to scrap the entire playbook. All that said, I probably would have looked for someone that has recently been in the NFL.
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        • stevenash
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          #5
          Steichen played QB at UNLV; maybe he should put himself on the QB depth chart, too.

          When (my guy) Danny went down Sunday, I was like "F**k, Anthony Richardson is still out, oh no, it's Riley Leornard time."
          Leonard looked pretty good. I was actually rooting for an ND player; he was poised, but now he's doubtful at best with that leg injury.

          Too bad Tommy Cutlets isn't available.
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          • ChuckyTheGoat
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            #6
            Originally posted by raiders72001
            I'm pulling for Rivers but just heard that he has a good chance to start against Seattle. Rivers is a statue and this could get ugly.
            I started reading the article. If age is no issue, I said to myself "Yeah, I guess Frank "Third" Reich could do it. He filled in ably vs the Oilers, and that's only a few years ago."
            Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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            • DwightShrute
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              #7
              I heard Warren Moon might sign with the Jets
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              • stevenash
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                #8
                Yikes!
                Seahawks -13.5
                (That's a boatload of lumber)

                My take?
                The line is saying "Seattle all day"
                I can't lay that number, though; I've suffered too many backdoor losses in my career.
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                • JAKEPEAVY21
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                  #9
                  It would be cool as hell to see Rivers take them on a playoff run but wishful thinking no doubt.
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                  • Angie100m
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                    #10
                    He's not going to play on 4-5 days of preparation. They'll lose to Seattle with or without Rivers on the team. But the remaining 4 games, he'll be semi-ready and Riley could get healthy. Colts just could sneak into the playoffs and make history.

                    By the way... is there even a 0.1% chance ANDREW LUCK would consider coming back and play half a dozen games of football? We know you miss it CaptAndrewLuck
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                    • ChuckyTheGoat
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                      It would be cool as hell to see Rivers take them on a playoff run but wishful thinking no doubt.
                      Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                      • JAKEPEAVY21
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                        #12
                        Was just running some errands listening to VSIN and they posed an interesting question....

                        Does Rivers have a shot at comeback player of the year assuming that he plays and gets the Colts into the playoffs? They were saying that Flacco won it a year or 2 ago under a similar scenario coming in at the end of the year.
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                        • DwightShrute
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                          • JAKEPEAVY21
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                            #14
                            Hopefully the oline and Taylor take it upon themselves to do the lion's share of the work and make sure Rivers does not get killed if he does get in there. He was always a gym rat and gunslinger so I do think he will be able to get the ball where he needs to but concerned about him getting lit up by defenders.
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                            • ChuckyTheGoat
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by DwightShrute
                              Philip had the best facial expressions. Those are back.
                              Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                              • stevenash
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                Hopefully the oline and Taylor take it upon themselves to do the lion's share of the work and make sure Rivers does not get killed if he does get in there. He was always a gym rat and gunslinger so I do think he will be able to get the ball where he needs to but concerned about him getting lit up by defenders.
                                Rivers also has the potential ROY Warren at tight end to throw to.
                                He's having a solid year, Danny has a good relationship with Warren, and Rvers should too.
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                                • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat

                                  Philip had the best facial expressions. Those are back.
                                  He would be a great commentator for games or in the studio at halftime etc...He has the knowledge and personality to be very good at it and entertaining in my opinion.
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                                  • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                    Will be rooting for this guy. Get some, Philip.
                                    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                    • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                      #19
                                      Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                      • stevenash
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat

                                        Get some, Philip.
                                        Get some? Do you realize he has 10 children all by Tiffany, btw?
                                        Phil's a grandfather for the love of God.
                                        Get some? Phil's gets more on a weekend than we'll get our entire lives.
                                        (Even though Old Man Rivers is getting all that much these days, with ten mouths to feed and all)

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                                        • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                          #21
                                          A few more comments:
                                          1) See the above link. He mentions that 14 of his Colt teammates are still there.
                                          2) Not many players of his ilk would mention that. He's a well-liked guy.
                                          3) I go back to AFC Title game. Chargers went to New Eng, to play the 17-0 Patriots. Tomlinson exited early with an injury. Rivers played thru two blown-out knees and almost pulled the upset. This guy was universally respected as a teammate.

                                          Trying to not get expectations too high. It's a tall task.
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                                          Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                          • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                            #22
                                            He was always well liked by teammates and for most of his career, very misunderstood by the media. Although later in his career they finally seemed to get the fact that he was just highly competitive but a very likeable guy.
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                                            • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by stevenash

                                              Get some? Do you realize he has 10 children all by Tiffany, btw?
                                              Phil's a grandfather for the love of God.
                                              Get some? Phil's gets more on a weekend than we'll get our entire lives.
                                              (Even though Old Man Rivers is getting all that much these days, with ten mouths to feed and all)

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                                              Ha-ha. That's not exactly what I meant.

                                              Yes, I was well aware of the colony that he's built. Last I heard, he had 7 kids. Now, it's 10.

                                              Yes, he's done very well. He WAS a great QB. Wish he would have won a title.

                                              Strikes me as very much the anti-star. Solid family man, admired by his teammates. Sticks out from the crowd, that's for sure.
                                              Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                              • 19th Hole
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                                                #24
                                                QB Philip Rivers unretiring to sign with Colts

                                                With starter Daniel Jones out for the season because of a torn right Achilles and backup Riley Leonard dealing with a knee injury, the Colts turned to Rivers as an emergency solution.

                                                Indianapolis brought in Rivers, 44, for a workout Monday night, a source told ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler on Tuesday. Rivers threw the ball well, the source told Fowler.

                                                Rivers is currently a semifinalist for the Pro Football Hall of Fame’s Class of 2026. Per the Hall of Fame, Rivers signing to the Colts’ practice squad has no effect on his eligibility. However, if he signs to the Colts’ active roster his eligibility clock would reset, whether or not he takes a snap in a game, and he wouldn’t be eligible again until 2031.
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                                                I'm alli n on Phillip Rivers giving it a go for the Colts.

                                                Being "the-glass-is-half-full" kind of guy,
                                                I think Rivers will make a good showing in 2025.

                                                Looking at the current lower echelon of QB's running for their lives the Colts could do a lot worse than Phillip Rivers.

                                                Patrick Mahomes most likely will not make the playoffs as he has seen a career high number of scrambles this season.

                                                Let's go Phillip Rivers!! x




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                                                • Angie100m
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                                                  #25
                                                  Forget about the HoF clock resetting. Just win the damn SB this season - that will certainly help your case, Mr. Rivers!

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                                                  • 19th Hole
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                                                    #26
                                                    Angie...
                                                    Seems Phillip Rivers has his priorities in order or he wouldn't be considering lacing up the cleats again.

                                                    Go Rivers Go!
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                                                    • ByeShea
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by 19th Hole
                                                      QB Philip Rivers unretiring to sign with Colts

                                                      With starter Daniel Jones out for the season because of a torn right Achilles and backup Riley Leonard dealing with a knee injury, the Colts turned to Rivers as an emergency solution.

                                                      Indianapolis brought in Rivers, 44, for a workout Monday night, a source told ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler on Tuesday. Rivers threw the ball well, the source told Fowler.

                                                      Rivers is currently a semifinalist for the Pro Football Hall of Fame’s Class of 2026. Per the Hall of Fame, Rivers signing to the Colts’ practice squad has no effect on his eligibility. However, if he signs to the Colts’ active roster his eligibility clock would reset, whether or not he takes a snap in a game, and he wouldn’t be eligible again until 2031.
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                                                      I'm alli n on Phillip Rivers giving it a go for the Colts.

                                                      Being "the-glass-is-half-full" kind of guy,
                                                      I think Rivers will make a good showing in 2025.

                                                      Looking at the current lower echelon of QB's running for their lives the Colts could do a lot worse than Phillip Rivers.

                                                      Patrick Mahomes most likely will not make the playoffs as he has seen a career high number of scrambles this season.

                                                      Let's go Phillip Rivers!! x



                                                      I was a big fan of Rivers, still am I guess. That said, he will get fukkin' wrecked. Hoping he takes zero snaps in a real game.
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                                                      • mackave
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                                                        #28
                                                        Super close friend of mine lives down in SD and used to go down to games back then and loved Rivers, planned on heading to the game a while ago in seattle and stoked more than ever that i will get to
                                                        see the legend return
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                                                        • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by mackave
                                                          Super close friend of mine lives down in SD and used to go down to games back then and loved Rivers, planned on heading to the game a while ago in seattle and stoked more than ever that i will get to
                                                          see the legend return
                                                          Imagine if this guy gets the W!
                                                          Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                          • str
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                                                            #30
                                                            I am certainly rooting for the Colts. Always liked Rivers. I think that he gives them their best shot to rebound. That said, I grew up playing sports and getting in trouble in D.C. with Riley's grand dad on his dads side. Grand dad is a piece of work ! Lolol.
                                                            So I'm a big Colts fan with Rivers and Riley learning from him as well as Daniel Jones.

                                                            Hope it turns out great.
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                                                            • BHExchange
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                                                              #31
                                                              Immobile and 246 pounds... what's the line for him having more INT than passing TDS, -200?
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                                                              • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by BHExchange
                                                                Immobile and 246 pounds... what's the line for him having more INT than passing TDS, -200?
                                                                Realistically, you are correct. These defenders are amazing, and DEF Coord are ruthless. Prospects are not good.

                                                                Q: Isn't Riley Leonard still scheduled to start this game?
                                                                Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                                • BHExchange
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat

                                                                  Realistically, you are correct. These defenders are amazing, and DEF Coord are ruthless. Prospects are not good.

                                                                  Q: Isn't Riley Leonard still scheduled to start this game?
                                                                  i see Darnold props posted, but nothing on the Colts side. I'm guessing the coach has a pretty good idea who is going to start, but also he has a good reason not to share that information so he'll keep everyone guessing
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                                                                  • str
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Riley hurt his knee last Sunday and is day to day last I checked.
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                                                                    • stevenash
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      No injury designation, starter TBD
                                                                      December 12, 2025

                                                                      Leonard (knee) doesn't carry an injury designation for Sunday's game against the Seahawks after practicing fully this week.

                                                                      ANALYSIS
                                                                      While Leonard is healthy enough to be available this weekend, the Colts have yet to reveal their Week 15 starting QB plans, with veteran newcomer Philip Rivers also a candidate to get the nod, per JJ Stankevitz of the team's official site. On that subject, coach Shane Steichen noted Friday afternoon, "We're going to work through that right now. We literally just got off the practice field, but (Rivers) had a good week of work, and we'll have those discussions here in the next couple hours." In any case, in order for Rivers to be in uniform Sunday, the Colts will either need to elevate him to their active roster from the practice squad, or sign him to the 53-man roster by Saturday afternoon's transaction deadline.
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