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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #1
    If Illegal Drugs Were Stopped
    The USA would hurt considerably and probab;ly would go into a recession, it is that big. We need drugs here and lots of them as the economy strives then.
  • MBENZ
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-07-07
    • 5238

    #2
    SEEK HELP JJ,IT MAY NOT BE TOO LATE
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      Ask any economist about my theory, it is proven.
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      • JBC77
        SBR MVP
        • 03-23-07
        • 3816

        #4
        Originally posted by jjgold
        The USA would hurt considerably and probab;ly would go into a recession, it is that big. We need drugs here and lots of them as the economy strives then.
        Come on man. What are you talking about. Post some picks or something. Make a YouTube. What is this crap?

        I've only taken two economics courses and don't recall the discussion on drugs helping the U.S economy surge, or crash without it.

        You would be hard pressed to find a respectable economist to back you JJ.
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        • durito
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 07-03-06
          • 13173

          #5
          "illegal drugs" will never be stopped as long as there is a demand
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          • ShamsWoof10
            SBR MVP
            • 11-15-06
            • 4827

            #6
            Originally posted by jjgold
            The USA would hurt considerably and probab;ly would go into a recession, it is that big. We need drugs here and lots of them as the economy strives then.
            First of all I would raise hell if that happened...

            Second I don't think there is ANY doubt JJ is right on this... I mean just think for a sec. who would lose jobs... There would be a major cut in Police, Judges, Lawyers, Wardens, Probation Officers, and Counselors.. That is just to start with not to mention the trickle effect it would have.... We are not talking about Ford or some plants cutting jobs and you see what effect that has had.... This would be many times greater in number of jobs cut... You're talking COAST TO COAST not just in Ohio, Michigan, PA., and a few other states...

            Originally posted by JBC77
            I've only taken two economics courses and don't recall the discussion on drugs helping the U.S economy surge, or crash without it.
            you expect a university to tell college students that..? Are you serious..? Come on man!!!

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            • durito
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-03-06
              • 13173

              #7
              It depends what one means by stopped. Are they legalized or does the "drug war" win (not possible imo)?

              Both would have economic effects throughout the world.
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              • thezbar
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 08-29-06
                • 6422

                #8
                Illegal drugs is only a small share of the market place. Most of the profits involve the so called legal drug market. Change that system around and there would be a much greater effect on the economy.
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                • WileOut
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-04-07
                  • 3844

                  #9
                  Shams I have questioned your lucidity before but now I know you are a looney toon. If illegal drugs were completely stopped the nation would see an economic boom never before seen in any country at any time. The people on drugs or selling drugs would be forced to work. It would save taxpayers billions (trillions). The people who lost jobs over it like you described would easily be able to find work elsewhere as the economy would take off like a rocket within 10 years. There would be an adjustment away from needing as many judges, lawyers, wardens, and PO's etc. The future wardens and such would simply do something else. Again there is no doubt that we would see an economic boom never before seen anywhere on earth.

                  This drug free nation we are speaking about will of course never happen. Since the drugs will never stop, what we should do is just legalize all drugs, it would help our economy tremendously. Let the people who want to be on heroin be on heroin. They are going to anyway why waste taxpayers money on it? Give them help if they want it but we need to function more like Amsterdam when it comes to drugs. The war on drugs is a joke that is wasting so much money.
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388179

                    #10
                    No war on drugs because of payoffs, real simple

                    We can stop it instantly if we wanted, just guard the borders
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                    • bigboydan
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-10-05
                      • 55420

                      #11
                      Coach, What exactly is your definition of an illegal drug though?

                      Give us an example...
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                      • Willie Bee
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-14-06
                        • 15726

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jjgold
                        We can stop it instantly if we wanted, just guard the borders
                        Oh man, thanks for the laugh this morning, JJ.
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388179

                          #13
                          coke,heroine,weed

                          Can be stopped instanly, put our military on borders

                          no drugs come in then

                          real easy

                          We do not want to stop it because it would cripple Lawyers, Judges, Law Enforcement and others that influence elections.
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                          • Ganchrow
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-28-05
                            • 5011

                            #14
                            Originally posted by bigboydan
                            Coach, What exactly is your definition of an illegal drug though?

                            Give us an example...
                            Bug powder. Currently available from Interzone, Inc.
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                            • ShamsWoof10
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-15-06
                              • 4827

                              #15
                              Originally posted by thezbar
                              Illegal drugs is only a small share of the market place. Most of the profits involve the so called legal drug market. Change that system around and there would be a much greater effect on the economy.
                              I do agree with this... Legal drugs are a bigger share and of course would have a bigger effect but don't worry they would all just go find "SOMETHING ELSE TO DO"... as stated in the below quote...

                              Originally posted by WileOut
                              If illegal drugs were completely stopped the nation would see an economic boom never before seen in any country at any time. The people on drugs or selling drugs would be forced to work. It would save taxpayers billions (trillions). The people who lost jobs over it like you described would easily be able to find work elsewhere as the economy would take off like a rocket within 10 years. There would be an adjustment away from needing as many judges, lawyers, wardens, and PO's etc. The future wardens and such would simply do something else. Again there is no doubt that we would see an economic boom never before seen anywhere on earth.
                              Are you f*ckin' kidding me with this quote..? I put the word "think" in bold for a reason last time... Notice he says everyone will just go find something to do... He doesn't say what jobs would be created and how the transformation would happen... NOT ONLY does he think the economy won't see a recession at the very least but he thinks there will be a BOOM!!! I think there is a great job for you down at the unemployment office... With all these jobs being cut (which means for good by the way) you can tell people "you'll find something to do"... Yeah the Judges who made a 100K+ will just go find something to do... He says everyone who did and sold drugs will be forced to work..? FOR F*CKIN' WHO.. DOING F*CKIN' WHAT..? It would be like pushing 100 people through a small door at the same time... Ohhhhh that's what all these companies were waiting for ...the U.S. getting off of drugs and then they'll bring all those jobs back right..?
                              With these current jobs being cut PEOPLE ARE NOT FINDING SOMETHING ELSE TO DO!!!

                              You're quote is simply statements with no detail or substance and more like and empty shells...

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                              • Dandy Lion
                                SBR Rookie
                                • 07-12-07
                                • 44

                                #16
                                Great post JJ. It serves an admirable purpose on this forum to separate the redneck crackers from those with an IQ greater than their shoe size.

                                Some of the responses would indicate an intelligence level unsuitable for handling sharp tools, let alone gambling.

                                Your original contention was that the stopping of illegal drugs, assumably by changing their designation to legal, would wreak havoc on the American economy. The truth is that it would wreak havoc only on the drug war economy, those parasites who suck off the public teat to the tune of hundreds of billions in the police, legal, and correctional systems. It would also wreak havoc on organized crime.

                                In the case of legalized marijuana, the only truly plausible legalization, it would also greatly reduce the profits of some pharmaceutical companies who make products for which marijuana is a better substitute.

                                Of course marijuana should be legalized. As for heroin, cocaine, meth, acid and the like, the present "Drug War" approach is obviously a failure, but equally obviously complete legalization of these drugs would be very unwise. Maybe that's what the crackers saw this thread as being about and in that case they do have a point.

                                America's real ruling elite must see some American interest in keeping drugs illegal not only in America, but everywhere else in the world. Its drug warriors are spread across the globe, interfering in policing and social policy in many of those countries seeking to adopt wiser approaches to this social problem. That only happens for reasons of American profit and the belief that American profits (interests) would fall if legalization were to come about.

                                That's the real reason these policies continue...profit. The rest, concern for the children, religious crackers, and all of that, that's just what props up the real reason.
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                                • WileOut
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-04-07
                                  • 3844

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
                                  Are you f*ckin' kidding me with this quote..? I put the word "think" in bold for a reason last time... Notice he says everyone will just go find something to do... He doesn't say what jobs would be created and how the transformation would happen... NOT ONLY does he think the economy won't see a recession at the very least but he thinks there will be a BOOM!!! I think there is a great job for you down at the unemployment office... With all these jobs being cut (which means for good by the way) you can tell people "you'll find something to do"... Yeah the Judges who made a 100K+ will just go find something to do... He says everyone who did and sold drugs will be forced to work..? FOR F*CKIN' WHO.. DOING F*CKIN' WHAT..? It would be like pushing 100 people through a small door at the same time... Ohhhhh that's what all these companies were waiting for ...the U.S. getting off of drugs and then they'll bring all those jobs back right..?
                                  With these current jobs being cut PEOPLE ARE NOT FINDING SOMETHING ELSE TO DO!!!

                                  You're quote is simply statements with no detail or substance and more like and empty shells...

                                  People would open new businesses. New ideas would be created. Every aspect of society would benefit. Every level of society from rich to poor would enjoy a higher standard of living.

                                  The amount of money taxpayers would save and the impact on the overall economy would far outweigh any people who would be put out of jobs. It doesnt take a high IQ to understand this. But the big difference would be 10 to 20 years into the future as tens of thousands of "would be future drug users" would be working and helping the economy instead of using drugs. Even the people who work now but are hampered by drug use would be much more productive if you take drugs out of their lives. Also, the future legal system resources wasted on drug users and drug dealers would then be redirected into something positive that helps the economy. Also, the parole officers, lawyers, judges, etc. in the future who haven't been born yet would do something else with their life that impacts the economy in a positive way. This would also help the economy more than you can imagine.

                                  If you stopped illegal drugs now, the main positive impact would be in the future. But it would also help the economy a lot right now.

                                  Think about it for a minute before you type anything else lol.
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                                  • flyingillini
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 12-06-06
                                    • 41219

                                    #18
                                    cocaine is America's cup of coffee. Everyone wants it
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                                    • LargeMouthBass
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 03-18-07
                                      • 1095

                                      #19
                                      The thing I don't understand is... It's legal for a patient to use marijuana as a medicinal purpose in California but the shops that sell marijuana have been getting raided by the feds... Don't they have better things to do such as fight terroists? I understand that federal law prohibits the usage of marijuana in any way but this is some BS.
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #20
                                        USA needs drugs to survive and strive period.
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                                        • MBENZ
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-07-07
                                          • 5238

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by flyingillini
                                          cocaine is America's cup of coffee. Everyone wants it
                                          Thats your opinion,People that don't need a bump to make it through life would totally disagree.
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