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  • JBC77
    SBR MVP
    • 03-23-07
    • 3816

    #1
    Schilling takes shots at Bonds, McGwire
    Schilling: Bonds and McGwire lack of denials tantamount to admissions
    July 25, 2007 http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns

    NEW YORK (AP) -- Curt Schilling says that Barry Bonds and Mark McGwire's refusals to address accusations of steroids use are tantamount to admissions.

    "If someone wrote that stuff about me and I didn't sue their (butt) off, am I not admitting that there's some legitimacy to it?" he said on HBO's "Costas Now."

    Schilling said "this will be the steroids era forever" and proposed that Jose Canseco and Rafael Palmeiro should be punished for steroids use.

    "Jose Canseco admitted he cheated his entire career," Schilling said. "Everything he ever did should be wiped clean. I think his MVP should go back and should go to the runner-up."

    As for Palmeiro, Schilling said: "The year he tested positive, nothing he did that year should count, which I think would take away 3,000 hits for him."

    Schilling discussed accusations by Bonds' former mistress, Kimberly Bell, who testified before a grand jury that Bonds told her of his steroid use in 2000. She also said Bonds gave her $80,000 in cash to buy a house, the proceeds of which allegedly came from a paid autograph session that authorities also are investigating as going unreported to the Internal Revenue Service.

    "If I wrote a book about Bob Costas and in that book I wrote about Bob Costas' girlfriend being on the road, and Bob Costas giving that girlfriend card show money and I outlined your daily steroid regimen, I've got to believe your first line of defense is to sue my (butt) off," Schilling said.

    "It goes to the Mark McGwire thing in Congress. I mean, I'm a huge Mark McGwire fan. But I just always thought it was very simple: If you did something and someone asks you if you did it and you didn't do it, you say no. Any other answer than no is some form of yes, isn't it?"

    Bonds' lawyer, Michael Rains, in the past accused Bell of trying to extort money from his client and using the platform to promote a book that never was published, but Bonds has not filed suit against her. Rains did not immediately return a telephone message Wednesday.

    During a March 2005 congressional hearing, McGwire repeatedly refused to answer questions about his alleged steroids use. Schilling also testified during the hearing and was more muted in his steroids comments.

    "I think while I agree it's a problem, I think the issue was grossly overstated by some people, including myself," he said then.

    Schilling said the circumstances of testifying caused him to be reticent.

    "When you're sitting in front of Congress and you're under oath, you'd better be damn sure if you're going to mention a name that you are 100 percent guaranteed sure somebody did something," he said during the HBO interview.

    Schilling said he thinks some players still are using performing-enhancing drugs.

    "There were teams that had a subculture of it. Obviously, guys are still getting caught, which shows me that even with all of the safety nets in place, people are still doing it," he said. "My understanding is that steroids and HGH, one of the main benefits of them is regeneration. If I can show up Sept. 1 and feel April fresh, I've got a huge advantage, not just that day but on everybody. And I think that's why a lot of pitchers have been caught."
  • rjt721
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-06-07
    • 7929

    #2
    I think the world would be a better place if Schill never opened his mouth again. Concentrate on getting in shape for the first time in ten years and returning to the mound, not your opinions (which no one cares about) on Bonds, McGwire and steroids.

    Thankfully, he only has another couple months in a Sox uniform.
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    • Stumpage
      SBR MVP
      • 09-21-05
      • 2906

      #3
      Originally posted by rjt721
      I think the world would be a better place if Schill never opened his mouth again. Concentrate on getting in shape for the first time in ten years and returning to the mound, not your opinions (which no one cares about) on Bonds, McGwire and steroids.

      Thankfully, he only has another couple months in a Sox uniform.

      I completely agree on all counts. This guy is so full of himself that he believes everybody thinks he's as important as Curt Schilling does. I'm grateful for what he's done on the mound since arriving in Fenway (especially in '04, of course), but shut the hell up already.
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        Schilling not even close to great pitcher, he is a non facotr in baseball
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        • austintx05
          SBR MVP
          • 08-24-06
          • 3156

          #5
          just like jj is a non factor in life
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          • tacomax
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-10-05
            • 9619

            #6
            Originally posted by Stumpage
            I completely agree on all counts. This guy is so full of himself that he believes everybody thinks he's as important as Curt Schilling does. I'm grateful for what he's done on the mound since arriving in Fenway (especially in '04, of course), but shut the hell up already.
            I agree with your point but for the wrong reason. No player should talk crap about other players, it's as simple as that.
            Originally posted by pags11
            SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
            Originally posted by BuddyBear
            I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
            Originally posted by curious
            taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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            • tacomax
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-10-05
              • 9619

              #7
              Originally posted by austintx05
              just like jj is a non factor in life
              Have you managed to figure out where the "ignore" button is yet?
              Originally posted by pags11
              SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
              Originally posted by BuddyBear
              I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
              Originally posted by curious
              taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388179

                #8
                No one talks about Schilling massive coke habit though
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                • Stumpage
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-21-05
                  • 2906

                  #9
                  Originally posted by tacomax
                  I agree with your point but for the wrong reason. No player should talk crap about other players, it's as simple as that.
                  Yes, you're bang on about that.....Not the first time he's gone off on other players as well, if memory serves.
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                  • Tchocky
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-14-06
                    • 2371

                    #10
                    Blah, blah, blah, blah....
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                    • JoshW
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-10-05
                      • 3431

                      #11
                      He can shut up now. I certainly won't mind.
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                      • Starbuckibm
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 03-21-07
                        • 212

                        #12
                        Originally posted by austintx05
                        just like jj is a non factor in life
                        That's exactly right.
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388179

                          #13
                          Schilling lied about being injured against Yanks and denies a coke habit also

                          Kind of a trend with him
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                          • Bill Dozer
                            www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                            • 07-12-05
                            • 10894

                            #14
                            I'm not a fan of crying to the media but I can understand how a pitcher gets fired up.

                            Imagine going 8 good innings and getting taken over the fence by a few inches for the loss. You look back over at the batter who's smiling and waving to the fans with arms that are two inches bigger than the year before. You go back to the locker room, where teammates have already talked about whose juicin, and a reporter asks you what happened at the end. Oh I just didn't have enough on that last pitch and he caught me with a great swing.
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                            • austintx05
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-24-06
                              • 3156

                              #15
                              Originally posted by tacomax
                              Have you managed to figure out where the "ignore" button is yet?
                              have you figured out how to pull the trigger yet?
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                              • t2wentyfou4r
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 06-27-07
                                • 212

                                #16
                                Does everybody remember when Schilling called Canseco a liar before the hearing in front of Congress. He shut the hell up after all the evidence started to come out. You can call Canseco everything, and anything in the book, but most of the things he said is true. Schilling talks out of his ass, and needs to shut up, and pitch. Stop trying to talk your way into the hall of fame, instead do it on the field.
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                                • colt29
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 03-22-07
                                  • 381

                                  #17
                                  They also said in that interview that his nickname with the players is "table for one". Classic. What a dick.
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                                  • isetcap
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-16-05
                                    • 4006

                                    #18
                                    I really have to wonder if anyone likes Curt outside of his pitching talents. I think Tacomax has found the only purpose he serves.
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                                    • Dark Horse
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 12-14-05
                                      • 13764

                                      #19
                                      Schilling wants to be in politics. And so he's setting himself up. Now he can add to his resume that he was one of the few active players who fought steroids head on. This will look good to some. Others may scratch their heads as to why he didn't attack players from his own locker rooms (guys that can swing back), and ask if those two world championships shouldn't count either. Why take away personal records only? Didn't they affect the team?

                                      And so there is clearly a hypocritical element to Schilling's tirade. It would be different if he took his championship trophies or rings and denounced them before the cameras: "I want no part of these. They're tainted." Without naming names, or attacking players from other teams. That would be a gesture for the history books.
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                                      • t2wentyfou4r
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 06-27-07
                                        • 212

                                        #20
                                        He should give back his rings, if he stands by his words. The championship he won could had been tainted, with teammates using roids. Nobody knows who did, or didn't do roids. I still don't know why Schilling was asked to speak in front of congress. Was he linked to using roids?
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                                        • colt29
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 03-22-07
                                          • 381

                                          #21
                                          This is getting so old. I would rather pay money to watch a game with every player on roids. Bring on football. Baseball will be irrelevant in 4 weeks.
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #22
                                            so many did it the playing field was pretty equal
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