Dropped Pinnacle Out Of My Top 10

[jjgold]

1. No more usa allowed
2. Volume way down
3. Tech staff cut
4. lines are not real sharp anymore because no big american money going through book.

[Mark Shark]

They are still in my top 2 because without them and Matchbook I have nothing. If the lines aren't sharp then why do Matchbook Lines move when Pinnacle does? Please explain that?

[Arilou]

If you think Pinnacle can deal that thin without having a sharp line, relocate to Canada and take millions of dollars off them. Shouldn't be that hard, right?

[betplom]

Dropped Pinnacle Out Of My Top 10

This is big news!
When JJ speaks someone listens! (Just not sure who, exactly)

[moses millsap]

Something happen overnight to have them drop out? The things you listed have been evident for many months already.

[jjgold]

Lets face it, Americans are by far the biggest bettors in the world, Canadians bet their $100 a game and get excited.

Pinnacle has a bubble gum type staff now only because they do not need the high powered minds anymore, I do not blame them especially when you have drunks Brits betting into them mainly and slow square Canadians.

I think I know what I am talking about.

[gridironguy]

Pinnacle dropped off the face of the earth (for me) back on Jan 11th or whatever date they pulled out of the US market..

It was a sad day, but (the gambling) life must go on..

[SBR_John]

They do not have a bubble gum staff at all.

They still have some very big plans worldwide. They will be back in the US market when the fog clears.

[bigboydan]

Don't you mean "IF" the fog clears John.

[Dark Horse]

Lets face it, Americans are by far the biggest bettors in the world, Canadians bet their $100 a game and get excited.

Pinnacle has a bubble gum type staff now only because they do not need the high powered minds anymore, I do not blame them especially when you have drunks Brits betting into them mainly and slow square Canadians.

I think I know what I am talking about.

This was three years ago. Pretty much the same today:

... the biggest gamblers of all are to be found in Australia: where the global average spend on gambling is one per cent of total consumer spending, it’s five-and-a-half per cent in Australia/New Zealand, according to The Economist Intelligence Unit. Sportingbet’s average bet size in Europe is £22; it’s $59 in America and a whapping £226 in Australia/Asia. I ventured that Asia must be an outstanding market opportunity, given the role of gambling in the culture.

“We’re quite cautious about the Asian market, because they’re enthusiastic, yes, but they’re very smart betters” ...

[jjgold]

Canadiians are sharp gamblers but play small

Americans are squares but bet large amounts

Brits are drunks and bet small

Asians bet heavy and a mix of everything

Greeks bet heavy but squares

aussies sharp and bet decent

[betplom]

Canadians are sharp gamblers but play small

Americans are squares but bet large amounts
Brits are drunks and bet small
Asians bet heavy and a mix of everything
Greeks bet heavy but squares
Aussies sharp and bet decent

Glad to see your philosophy degree is being put to good use.
Very sharp, Hank.

[cobra_king]

In post 6 you say canadians are slow and square.
In post 11 you say canadians are sharp

Which is it?

[tribet]

I am sure they are shaking down in Curacao at that news and they really miss your $5 parlays,you clearly know sod all about the gambling industry or are just stupid.

Probably both actually.

[20Four7]

In post 6 you say canadians are slow and square.
In post 11 you say canadians are sharp

Which is it?

It depends on how many beers they had......

To JJ ..... take off eh......

[BigBollocks]

OK so we've established the small timers part with you JJ, but are Canadiens small timers and square or small timers and sharp?

[jjgold]

small timers and majority sharp, they are techy

I can get head man at Pinny on phone within 40 minutes

[gridironguy]

They do not have a bubble gum staff at all.

They still have some very big plans worldwide. They will be back in the US market when the fog clears.

John, you have a way way more knowledge than I do about the offshore world and I hope you're right about Pinnacle returning when the dust clears but I have a feeling that they're never coming unless the UIGEA is repealed, and that is most likely never going to happen. I mean like 95% I don't think the bill will be overturned, and so I believe it's just as likely that Pinnacle will never return..

[jjgold]

Johnny has some decent info but problem is you have to figure out if he is drunk or not when he posts.

[statguy]

Somebody explain to me why I need Pinny anymore? If the legal crap ever gets cleared up, exchanges will take over the world. I can get all the action down I need at MB, and the odds i get are better than those at pin nearly every time. I know you high rollers need to get down thousands and thousands per game, but the rest of us who bet a couple of benjys are quite happy right now. In fact, if someone made me pay +107 or (god forbid) +110, I woudn't know what to do after what I've been gitting lately.

[jjgold]

No need for Pinny anymore, Matchbook is just as good and safer.

[remmy358]

1. No more usa allowed
2. Volume way down
3. Tech staff cut
4. lines are not real sharp anymore because no big american money going through book.

jj, can you post your top 10?

[Tevez]

No need for Pinny anymore, Matchbook is just as good and safer.

If you only bet in baseball...... you don´t need anymore


Safer ?
In my opinion Pinny is safer now.
Safer than The Greek, Diamond, Matchbook, etc


Pinnacle does not accept clients who are resident in the United States of America, but I think big USA money still go through Pinnacle

PD: "Brits are drunks and bet small"



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[Mark Shark]

Canadiians are sharp gamblers but play small

Americans are squares but bet large amounts

Brits are drunks and bet small

Asians bet heavy and a mix of everything

Greeks bet heavy but squares

aussies sharp and bet decent

I think you are right about us Aussies

[Thremp]

I'm new around here. Do you keep a top 10 list of all sportsbooks based on a variety of criterion?

[tacomax]

I'm new around here. Do you keep a top 10 list of all sportsbooks based on a variety of criterion?

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/Ratings+on+over+400+Sportsbooks+/default.aspx?show=Rating

[LVHerbie]

small timers and majority sharp, they are techy

I can get head man at Pinny on phone within 40 minutes

This would be a great Youtube video...

[jjgold]

Thremp I have the most accurate top 10 list around, let me know if you need it.

[Ganchrow]

I'm new around here. Do you keep a top 10 list of all sportsbooks based on a variety of criterion?

Hi Thremp, glad you could make it.

In addition to the Ratings Guide link tacomax posted for you above, you should also check out the SBR Recommended List.

[Kaps]

Canadiians are sharp gamblers but play small

Americans are squares but bet large amounts

Brits are drunks and bet small

Asians bet heavy and a mix of everything

Greeks bet heavy but squares

aussies sharp and bet decent

greeks do bet heavy but there are some that are not squares ......trust me i know its about 50/50