Put your GM hat on; What would you give for Vick?

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  • SBR_John
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-12-05
    • 16471

    #1
    Put your GM hat on; What would you give for Vick?
    Personally, I dont think a fetish with dog fighting makes him totally damaged goods. But his stock is certainly way down. So buy low?

    I would part with a 1st rounder to get him. He's only 27.

    What would you deal or is his career toast?
  • onlooker
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 08-10-05
    • 36572

    #2
    His image is tarnished, but he still has good years ahead of him.

    I'm just not sure any team could win a championship with him at QB. So I wouldn't pick him up.
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    • ritehook
      SBR MVP
      • 08-12-06
      • 2244

      #3
      If he's conVICKted he won't play pro ball again in the U.S. And he can kiss his endorsements goodbye.
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      • increasedodds
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 01-20-06
        • 819

        #4
        I would trade a first round pick.

        The most time he possibly does is 2 years.

        Most likely if he pleads guilty to one of the three laws he can get a 6 month type deal like the running back in Baltimore...

        Sean
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        • ritehook
          SBR MVP
          • 08-12-06
          • 2244

          #5
          To repeat: if he's convicted or pleads guilty, he won't play pro football again in the US.

          There are legions of animal lovers in the US to whom animal cruelty is somewhat akin to child molestation.

          If any book is taking futures on M Vick playing for the NFL again kindly let me know who it is. I'll post up and get my bet in.
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          • stump
            SBR MVP
            • 09-14-05
            • 1715

            #6
            nothing
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            • moses millsap
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-25-05
              • 8289

              #7
              A conditional 5th round pick, if that.
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              • rjt721
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 02-06-07
                • 7929

                #8
                Originally posted by SBR_John
                Personally, I dont think a fetish with dog fighting makes him totally damaged goods. But his stock is certainly way down. So buy low?

                I would part with a 1st rounder to get him. He's only 27.

                What would you deal or is his career toast?
                You'd give up a first-rounder for a guy who's in all likelihood never going to take another snap in the NFL?

                The government wouldn't have handed down the indictment if they didn't have concrete, indisputable evidence against Vick. According to The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, 99% of the people indicted by the federal government between 2000 and 2005 were convicted. Bottom line: Vick's screwed. His NFL career's over.
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                • tullamore
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-17-07
                  • 3586

                  #9
                  I give up a second day draft pick and thats if vick would come play for the minimum.
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                  • rjt721
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-06-07
                    • 7929

                    #10
                    I don't even think Vick was worth a first-rounder before all of this happened.

                    Think Atlanta would like to have Matt Schaub back now?
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                    • bigboydan
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-10-05
                      • 55420

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ritehook
                      If he's conVICKted he won't play pro ball again in the U.S. And he can kiss his endorsements goodbye.
                      Who cares about the endorsement deals at all. If he's convicted he's done, and there is no value.
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                      • tullamore
                        SBR MVP
                        • 07-17-07
                        • 3586

                        #12
                        You think petrino wishes he stayed at louisville? He would have the chance to go to another BCS bowl. Plus his former qb brohm is better than harrington and shockley.
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                        • toastedbread01
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 04-06-07
                          • 753

                          #13
                          Put him at WR.**

                          nm
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                          • Mudcat
                            Restricted User
                            • 07-21-05
                            • 9287

                            #14
                            Originally posted by rjt721
                            I don't even think Vick was worth a first-rounder before all of this happened.

                            That was my reaction too.

                            He has some upside as an athlete, but his contract is way out of whack with his results. Not worth the cap space, nevermind throwing in a 1st round pick as well.
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                            • remmy358
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-18-07
                              • 2199

                              #15
                              the baggage..lost image...he's going to jail - not much value at this point.
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                              • capitalist pig
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-25-07
                                • 4998

                                #16
                                I dont think any team would take him in a trade. He is a public relations nightmare at this point. IMO, he will get booed and harrassed wherever he goes, if he even gets the chance to play again.

                                later
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                                • JoshW
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-10-05
                                  • 3431

                                  #17
                                  I have to agree with the "if he is convicted he is done crowd". I guess he could plead out, and then claim he didn't know about it, but had to settle. If he admits to it, he is going to need "to find Jesus" before any city is going to want to bring in to QB their team.
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                                  • Dark Horse
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-14-05
                                    • 13764

                                    #18
                                    Vick is toast. Federal case with 95% conviction rate.
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388179

                                      #19
                                      Vick might not even be claimed off waivers if he was on it, he has no value anymore.

                                      No one wants black trash
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                                      • THE HITMAN
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 06-16-07
                                        • 2394

                                        #20
                                        Not much. He has a very spotty personal track record, this may not me the end of his bull chit. He has promised many many times before to clean up his act and obviously hasn't.
                                        In addition, most NFL teams would have to re structure their offenses to accomodate his style.
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                                        • BatemanPatrickl
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 06-21-07
                                          • 18772

                                          #21
                                          I would pay someone to take him off my hands; never thought he was much before this went down.
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                                          • Junkyard Dog
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-12-07
                                            • 4552

                                            #22
                                            I wouldnt want that piece of shit around my oranization period.
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                                            • dodif
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-24-06
                                              • 2037

                                              #23
                                              a happy meal
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                                              • durito
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 07-03-06
                                                • 13173

                                                #24
                                                Nothing.

                                                You´d not only be trading for Vick, but also his 100+ million$ contract. No team is going to take a chance on that.
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                                                • ronniejamedio
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 06-09-07
                                                  • 651

                                                  #25
                                                  for one he should have been bred to be a wide out. good arm but not accurate and does not make good decisions. Two I would not want this guy on my team, nor pacman, nor any other a-hole who does phucked up sh ite (I.E. Little who killed someone while drunk driving). I think the NFL should ban serious offenses and assure its players be role models for kids,
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                                                  • flyingillini
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 12-06-06
                                                    • 41219

                                                    #26
                                                    I know most of you will disagree with this but if I could bet this I would. Now personally what I think he has done or accused of is sickening and cruel. However... his image is going to be destroyed.. he will have a black mark on him forever but no way in hell will he do 1 day in jail.. he will pay fines.. he will do anything and everything but he will not spend one day in jail.. his friends that are also in trouble may do time but he won't. I know most of you will disagree but just wait and see....
                                                    המוסד‎
                                                    המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                                                    • rjt721
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 02-06-07
                                                      • 7929

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by lakerfan
                                                      I guess he could plead out, and then claim he didn't know about it, but had to settle.
                                                      Didn't know about what? That dogfighting is a felony? Ignorance isn't a defense.

                                                      No way the government offers a plea deal that doesn't involve a long prison sentence.
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                                                      • ronniejamedio
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 06-09-07
                                                        • 651

                                                        #28
                                                        nah its a federal case. you dont get off that easy. especially if they happened at his house. How do you say you dont know about that? If chong did a year in jail for selling bongs, they better throw the book at this douche bag
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                                                        • tullamore
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 07-17-07
                                                          • 3586

                                                          #29
                                                          Never thought I would say this but Marcus my be the smarter brother, and thats saying a lot.
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #30
                                                            He could of been a great 3rd down back and a wide out and probably stiil can be but not a QB.
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                                                            • Mr Nuts
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 08-22-05
                                                              • 1383

                                                              #31
                                                              I doubt he does any time.But I do think his career is over.I hope he's broke as well.
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                                                              • compaqDikk
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 10-08-05
                                                                • 5699

                                                                #32
                                                                the need to stick Vick and that NBA ref in the roman coliseum and let them fight to their death
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                                                                • Mudcat
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 07-21-05
                                                                  • 9287

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by dodif
                                                                  a happy meal
                                                                  Well okay. If Atlanta picks up 95%+ of his contract, I guess I could take a chance and come through with a happy meal.
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                                                                  • goldengoat
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-25-05
                                                                    • 3239

                                                                    #34
                                                                    i wouldn't want the dude on my team

                                                                    not a good qb and not worth the negative vibes at punt returner or slot receiver

                                                                    too much of a hassle and too many bad questions will surround him for years assuming he is not in jail
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                                                                    • Razz
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 08-22-05
                                                                      • 5632

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I guess I'm going to have to play devil's advocate. The amount of attention and money that Vick would generate is worth much more than a first round pick. I personally don't think he's much of a player, and if true the allegations against him are despicable.
                                                                      But he still puts butts in seats and is the face of a franchise. If I'm the owner or GM of a team like Kansas City or Minnesota, I'd love to have him. Is it worth the excess baggage and draft pick/player to bring him to a mid-major NFL franchise? I say yes.
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