Help Requested....Getting Down A Huge Future In Vegas

MrX · 07-21-07, 05:33 PM

I'm sitting outside the Gold Coast at the moment. They're probably one of the most likely to take a big bet. I'll ask when I go in.

BigBollocks · 07-21-07, 05:39 PM

Thanks MrX, I'd really appreciate it. Anywhere else you can ask I'd be appreciative of too. If you get a chance please let me know the odds on some of the teams listed above, as that is of great importance also. Cheers mate...

onlooker · 07-21-07, 05:44 PM

Only ones that I think might take that on a future are the Wynn, LV Hilton, Caesars and MGM.

Just not sure. If I am in those books before you fly out, I will ask about the max bets on the futures.

I am just not in those books enough, hate that traffic down there.

BigBollocks · 07-21-07, 05:52 PM

Thanks onlooker, if you ever get the chance and can also let me know the odds posted on the teams above (I can narrow it down to five for simplicity's sake as I just don't want to tip my hand until I get the bet in) I'd be most appreciative as I certainly don't want to fly out there until I know I can get this thing in at comparable odds to the offshores. Thanks again....

MrX · 07-21-07, 06:02 PM

Well, I didn't get a chance to talk to the manager. A clerk I talk to all the time was skeptical of someone off the street getting more than 5k down. He doesn't necessarily know what he's talking about, though. I should have time to ask someone higher up later.

Hilton and Caesar's are good calls, though Hilton will probably be more cautious if they don't know you.

BigBollocks · 07-21-07, 07:06 PM

Thanks MrX, I appreciate your time and any future information you might be able to give through manager information.

I'll admit that when it comes to Vegas understanding nowadays I'd consider myself a novice. The lower limits and the hassle of getting in larger bets were evident the last time I was there roughly two years ago, and by all accounts it has only gotten worse. I still believe it shouldn't be too much to ask to get down low five figure action on a college football future. Of course my next question will be in regard to taxes should it come through....

MrX · 07-22-07, 01:18 AM

I should be able to get you some lines and more info on limits tomorrow.

Frankly, I don't know what to expect. On the one hand, the future's markets they offer here have huge vig and you would think they could take a decent sized bet. On the other hand, the books for the most part have become embarrassingly risk-averse and may not take a lot of big bets on futures.

I'll let you know what I find out.

Justin7 · 07-22-07, 10:00 AM

BigBollocks,

No books will take that kind of action unless they know who you are. If you stay at a hotel and play like a whale, they'll let you bet whatever you want in the sportsbook. For everyone else, I'd be surprised if you could bet more than $500.

increasedodds · 07-22-07, 12:02 PM

Just lay the money at 5-10 Vegas books. you should have very little trouble getting it down...

Sean

Iwinyourmoney · 07-22-07, 02:07 PM

For a small fee Ill fly out and help you get the bet done

BrentCrude · 07-22-07, 02:22 PM

Critical of your gambling talk!

You keep bringing up the word huge where you want to make a big splash where you get noticed placing a huge bet.It reminds me of when Bob Stupak the Vegas clown prince bomb thrower who went bankrupt spending and keeping other peoples money made a million dollar bet with Trump who's a bankrupt fraud who would win the super bowl a few years back.All they wanted to do was to be bombastic show offs making people think that a mill is small potatoes to them.

They as well as you if they were rational would have made allot of small bets under the IRS radar screen.Why people give themselves unneeded attention is beyond comprehension to me.

MrX · 07-22-07, 02:31 PM

I just talked with Tom at the Gold Coast, and his opinion is you'd most likely have trouble betting much more than 1k on a BCS future just about anywhere in town, including his place.

It will depend on who you're betting on, of course, and what kind of balance they have on the market. You're probably better off online, since you'd have to use almost every book in town, so price shopping would be difficult. If you were to try, my advice would be to go to the most favorable line and request 5k. Most likely they'll say no and give you a different limit. Take that limit. Proceed to next best line. Rinse and repeat until you have the action you want.

If you still want me to check some lines for you, send me a PM with the smaller list of teams you're interested in.

MrX · 07-22-07, 02:33 PM

I'll ask at Ceasar's/MGM next time I'm there. They may be a little higher for futures.

BigBollocks · 07-22-07, 03:42 PM

Thanks MrX for your initial legwork and feedback. I really appreciate your time again.

Justin and MrX one of my stronger fears seeing as how incestuous the Vegas books are is that as I'm going from shop to shop I continue to see the number I want drop. Every extra +100 is huge when dealing with larger amounts as you both know.

I've gotten some helpful suggestions via PM as well, and am strongly re-considering putting the bet in online (although I'm only open to about 3-4 shops presently). Cheers....

BigBollocks · 07-22-07, 03:55 PM

Brent I shouldn't even waste the time, but I'll take up a sentence or two real quick. It's not difficult to see how you rub a great number of people here the wrong way, but I appreciate altering viewpoints so I've never had a problem with you in the past (and still don't for that matter).

How asking a sincere question to knowledgeable people about getting the best limits and odds for a small amount compared to many's average NFL wagers is akin to Bob Stupak is beyond me. I guess I don't get the comparison. I do agree that $10-$20K is not a "huge" play by any stretch, and tried to change that word right after I created this thread. That said, small five figures on a future play probably is in the upper echelon, and thus why I'm having current problems getting down the bet domestically. So in terms of futures it's certainly noticeable to book managers.

I've gotten a lot of really helpful responses in this thread as well as PMs and am becoming more informed by the minute on the tall task this perhaps might be. One of the A+ books is looking better every second both in terms of odds and limits....

MrX · 07-22-07, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by BigBollocks

Justin and MrX one of my stronger fears seeing as how incestuous the Vegas books are is that as I'm going from shop to shop I continue to see the number I want drop. Every extra +100 is huge when dealing with larger amounts as you both know.

I really think that is the least of your concerns. I seriously doubt any linesmakers will be watching BCS futures like a hawk, especially if you run around making your bets while games are going off.

But I'll stick to my opinion that you're probably far better off making this play online.

ForgetWallStreet · 07-23-07, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by MrX

But I'll stick to my opinion that you're probably far better off making this play online.

No kidding, just nail Team X for the max at the Greek, WSex, Carib, Bet Jam, 5 Dimes, and Bookmaker and hope the sucker cashes. I got a couple of K down on West Virginia this way. It's not that complicated.