Thinking about borrowing from my 401K to finance my gambling addiction.

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  • Helmut
    Restricted User
    • 03-17-07
    • 356

    #1
    Thinking about borrowing from my 401K to finance my gambling addiction.
    It does not appear that I will be getting the money that is rightfully mine from the crook joints Neteller and Cascade in time for football season. Rather than playing with a reduced bankroll I've been kicking around the idea of pulling some money out of here. If I take a loan do I have to start repaying right away or can I delay it six months?
  • Justin7
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-31-06
    • 8577

    #2
    Are you sure this isn't JJGold?

    Play with a reduced bankroll. Play more props and teasers until you get back to where you should be.
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    • WileOut
      SBR MVP
      • 02-04-07
      • 3844

      #3
      Why props and teasers?

      Helmut I would highly advise you not taking a penny out of your 401k. Please leave it alone.
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      • Starbuckibm
        SBR High Roller
        • 03-21-07
        • 212

        #4
        My god do not do this...you are going down the wrong path. Why risk your retirement? I agree decrease your play or unit size and build it back up. Don't do something stupid now that you will regret the rest of your life.

        I agree this something JJGold would say.....lol
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        • LT Profits
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-27-06
          • 90963

          #5
          Is this Buztah? If not, where have you gone Buztah?

          Helmut, borrowing from your 401K to gamble is obviously not the smartest thing to do. Then again, it sounds like you are out a HUGE chunk to Neteller and Cascade, so I could definitely understand where you are coming from. Still, unless you are a professional gambler, there is much more to life than this, so don't give in to the temptation.
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          • Justin7
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 07-31-06
            • 8577

            #6
            Originally posted by WileOut
            Why props and teasers?

            Helmut I would highly advise you not taking a penny out of your 401k. Please leave it alone.
            These are the easiest to beat. If you have under 50k, focus on these until your bankroll hits 50k (at which point you're doing limit bets on all props, and starting to have problems betting teasers).
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            • Mudcat
              Restricted User
              • 07-21-05
              • 9287

              #7
              Originally posted by Justin7
              Are you sure this isn't JJGold?
              I'd say there a couple of jj ghosts in this thread (so far).

              People have given solid advice - and probably completely wasted their time giving it.
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              • Helmut
                Restricted User
                • 03-17-07
                • 356

                #8
                I'm not talking the whole thing just 10% or so.
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                • ShamsWoof10
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-15-06
                  • 4827

                  #9
                  Well scared money doesn't lose... I say do it... and take SD under season win totals... if everyone here likes them over then double the bet...

                  You probably won't see much of that 401K in the future anyway....
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                  • LargeMouthBass
                    Restricted User
                    • 03-18-07
                    • 1095

                    #10
                    Helmut go for it. No guts no glory. Who cares about retirement? When you'll be old and won't be able to enjoy anything but to sit around doing nothing.
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                    • BigDaddy
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 02-01-06
                      • 8378

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Justin7
                      Are you sure this isn't JJGold?

                      Play with a reduced bankroll. Play more props and teasers until you get back to where you should be.

                      helmut is not jjgold he is a very good capper from FP that moved pinnacle lines all last year and won at a high rate his overnight totals would move 4-5 points
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                      • LT Profits
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-27-06
                        • 90963

                        #12
                        BigDaddy,

                        All the jjgold and buztah references were in jest. And FP stands for?
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                        • seaborneq
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 09-08-06
                          • 22556

                          #13
                          If you feel lucky this football season, pull everything out of your 401k and bet it all. I feel lucky this upcoming season but I still want my investments intact at the end and not dependent on some young athletes whimsical lapse of judgement.
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                          • increasedodds
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 01-20-06
                            • 819

                            #14
                            In the 2 year ago world I would say borrow from anywhere... I did borrow from loans, credit cards, etc.

                            In today's situation, I don't have any money offshore. I sure as hell would not have borrowed money offshore...

                            Sean
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                            • stump
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-14-05
                              • 1715

                              #15
                              not my business to tell you whether you should do it or not, but if you do you will have to start paying back in 30 days like any other loan.

                              most companies will let you borrow 50 percent of your balance up to $50,000 and pay it back up to a maximumo of 15 yrs depending on the purpose. rates are usually equal to the prime rate and your payback will be taken out of your monthly paycheck.

                              best of luck
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388179

                                #16
                                I would do it only if you know what your doing, I have taken shots with money like this but got burned, if you take this game serious I would do it, if your an action junkie I would pass.

                                Easier to get a loan at a bank.
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                                • Helmut
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 03-17-07
                                  • 356

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by stump
                                  not my business to tell you whether you should do it or not, but if you do you will have to start paying back in 30 days like any other loan.


                                  best of luck
                                  damn
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                                  • jjgold
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-20-05
                                    • 388179

                                    #18
                                    Helmer you sound like a sicko

                                    I love it though.

                                    Best of luck and bury the man
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                                    • LVHerbie
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 09-15-05
                                      • 6344

                                      #19
                                      take out exactly what you are owed by neteller... most likely you will get that back anyhow... just another gamble at decent odds...
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                                      • raiders72002
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-06-07
                                        • 3368

                                        #20
                                        Doesn't matter if it's in a 401k, bank or cash in your hand, it's all the same.

                                        If you are a life time loser gambling then leave it alone. If you think it's more profitable gambling then do it.

                                        From your post I would say that you should leave it alone but you will take it out.
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                                        • freebie
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 08-10-05
                                          • 1174

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by LargeMouthBass
                                          Helmut go for it. No guts no glory. Who cares about retirement? When you'll be old and won't be able to enjoy anything but to sit around doing nothing.
                                          no Shit! Go for it.

                                          playing chickenShit won't get you very far.

                                          I would borrow it if I had a 401

                                          and good luck to you. I really hope you make these books pay you huge.
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #22
                                            I still think loans are better, you can also default on them.
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                                            • pavyracer
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 04-12-07
                                              • 82839

                                              #23
                                              "Financing" your gambling habit? Why don't you call The Greek and tell them to set up automatic payroll deduction with your employeer?
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                                              • freebie
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-10-05
                                                • 1174

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                "Financing" your gambling habit? Why don't you call The Greek and tell them to set up automatic payroll deduction with your employeer?
                                                why setup an automatic payroll deduction from his employer?

                                                You're assuming he is going to lose?
                                                Why can't you wish the dude good luck and win big?
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                                                • pavyracer
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 04-12-07
                                                  • 82839

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by freebie
                                                  why setup an automatic payroll deduction from his employer?

                                                  You're assuming he is going to lose?
                                                  Why can't you wish the dude good luck and win big?
                                                  I'm trying to save him some money from taxes. If you borrow from 401k you get taxed twice because is a loan whereas sending the money to Greek you get taxed once.
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                                                  • ShamsWoof10
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 11-15-06
                                                    • 4827

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by freebie
                                                    why setup an automatic payroll deduction from his employer?

                                                    You're assuming he is going to lose?
                                                    Why can't you wish the dude good luck and win big?
                                                    Can you do that or are you guys just f*ckin' around..?
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