SportsInteraction downgraded!

Lucas · 07-12-07, 11:30 AM

may i know more details please?

ShamsWoof10 · 07-12-07, 11:31 AM

And I bet that sorry as* book don't even care...

Doug · 07-12-07, 11:53 AM

But we all know they are an F.

Santo · 07-12-07, 11:57 AM

Don't think they're an F by any stretch

Utah · 07-12-07, 06:29 PM

I think more specifics should given as to the situation in question.

Why was the player still betting after he was notified that he was no longer allowed to bet? Who doesn't know (especially a sharp) that SIA will cut you off after winning a certain amount? Is it possible that the player in question knew he was cut off but realized the system still allowed him to bet so he tried to game the system and continued to bet with them?

How does SIA get downgraded to D+ for incidents but Betjamaica is still A+ when they freeroll players on the lines with internet delays? How is Bodog still A rated when they take months to pay players whereas SIA takes 1 to 2 days max to do a wire? How much does a good rating cost a book on sbrlines?

louis · 07-12-07, 07:30 PM

Bodog deserves a higher rating than SIA

The ratings should, and for the most part I think they do, come down to both the ability and willingness of a book to pay what it owes.

Bodog has the ability and willingness. Their delays were caused by the U.S. making it difficult on processors which is something that effects everyone.

SIA does not have the willingness to pay big winners. In fact they clearly stoled this person's money. When people when big they steal the money. That is different than having a delay because the U.S. government is making it difficult on your processors.

I also question whether SIA has a lot of cash to begin with. I personally think they are not doing well financially.

There are also books like sportsbook.com that have the ability to pay but do not have the willingness to pay some big winners. In this case they are simply a greedy book - and one of the books that may not be around for long even though they are quite large. BOS was quite large and we all watched them fall. Sportsbook.com might be next.

bigboydan · 07-12-07, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by Doug

But we all know they are an F.

There an F to anyone that is capable of beating them Doug. As far as the average Joe dog type player there pretty good though IMO

Santo · 07-12-07, 08:20 PM

They're probably a B/C until they kick you out, then they're an F.

homedog · 07-12-07, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by Santo

They're probably a B/C until they kick you out, then they're an F.

I don't have a problem with any book kicking a player out as long as they pay the winnings. I don't understand why anyone would think any different.

Dhuepaxuz · 07-13-07, 01:36 AM

Originally posted by homedog

I don't have a problem with any book kicking a player out as long as they pay the winnings. I don't understand why anyone would think any different.

I'm with you.

tacomax · 07-13-07, 01:47 AM

Based upon the number of times that I've got laid on campus while wearing my SIA cap, they should be rated A+ and nothing less.

Santo · 07-13-07, 04:05 AM

Originally posted by homedog

I don't have a problem with any book kicking a player out as long as they pay the winnings. I don't understand why anyone would think any different.

I've expressed that sentiment previously, but in a personal rating guide, they'd be useless once you're barred, hence the "F".

jjgold · 07-13-07, 06:10 AM

For a $100 type player I think they are a B

betplom · 07-13-07, 09:48 PM

Well SIA is definitely popular in the forums, although I doubt they are looking for this type of attention.

I have always been paid by them, although one time they screwed up a eft to my bank, got my funds two weeks later plus $100 for my troubles.

I've read here in the past from mods that SIA is very sound financially, basing a downgrade on a player taking a shot seems strong.

Personally, I'm happy with them, as I don't / can't bet more than $500 on most events they offer. For bigger wagers I use Canbet.

raiders72002 · 07-14-07, 04:38 AM

cuse sportsinteraction of taking a wait-and-see approach and applying unlisted policies to their large accounts. SIA has added to its rules pages after discussing incidents with SBR but refuses to honor the winnings in question.

What rules were added?

jjgold · 07-14-07, 07:37 AM

I do not hear many complaints about SIA and still a very popular book. The downgrade was un called for.

Justin7 · 07-14-07, 09:21 AM

Originally posted by raiders72002

What rules were added?

They have added a "1 account per IP/household" rule. In an earlier complaint, they forfeited winnings from 3 people living in the same house who were provably different people.

raiders72002 · 07-14-07, 10:07 AM

They have added a "1 account per IP/household" rule. In an earlier complaint, they forfeited winnings from 3 people living in the same house who were provably different people

Although wrong of SIA to do this anyone who has read the forums should know that SIA doesn't go for that.

GamblingPrincessXOXO · 07-14-07, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by Justin7

They have added a "1 account per IP/household" rule. In an earlier complaint, they forfeited winnings from 3 people living in the same house who were provably different people.

I remember reading about that rule being added to their rules last year. I dont think it was added recently as the original post suggests.

SIA has always been fair with me. Payouts in about 7 days, athough I am only a $100 bettor.

Will be back with them for NFL.

Justin7 · 07-14-07, 11:54 AM

It doesn't matter if you bet $100 or $1000. Most players don't have problems until they hit SIA's "pain threshold" and try to make a withdrawal. If you beat them out of 15k+, they look for ways to not pay you.

If you are going to beat them, keep your balance below 5k (or at a point where you are comfortable having it stolen).

Halifax · 07-14-07, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by Justin7

It doesn't matter if you bet $100 or $1000. Most players don't have problems until they hit SIA's "pain threshold" and try to make a withdrawal. If you beat them out of 15k+, they look for ways to not pay you.

If you are going to beat them, keep your balance below 5k (or at a point where you are comfortable having it stolen).

That's not necessarily true.

Most people who reach the "win threshold" receive a polite e-mail that they're no longer wanted as a customer, and are then paid the money that they are owed.

The problems usually arise when that same person opens a new account under another name, when multiple people play from the same IP, when the Lim Family's New Year's Resolution is to sign up as many family members as possible, when someone is told to leave but continues to play on because SIA forgot to disable the account, etc.

SIA are like the Soup Nazi ... dot your i's and cross your t's, and you likely won't run into many problems, even if you win there ... try to screw them, and they will screw you back twice as hard (if they catch you).

You'll eventually get the boot if you win too much, but they will pay you.

jjgold · 07-14-07, 12:04 PM

I would say if you bet $200 or lower SIA is a solid B book period and a top 10 book period.

BrentCrude · 07-15-07, 06:54 AM

They used to have outrageously good golf odds on majors.

It was fun betting golf majors with them because they posted odds for every golfer and you could get outrageous odds of 1000-1 or even more on some older guys like Watson and real up and comers who used to flirt with the lead in these tourneys.I'll have to look if they still are as good for the British Open coming up.Then minimum bets were $1 on golf so you could pick a few of these longshots like buying lottery tickets.I always felt good even when I lost because I knew a couple of my picks would finish ahead of Ells,Woods,Mickelson and Singh.

With modern day equipment and training,there are no bad golfers on tour and every guy practically is capable of winning.The pisser though is when you want to make 5 $1 bets and you set high odds players at let's say 300-1 and you randomly pick them and a guy like Johnson who was at those odds that you bipassed wins the Masters.It happens allot like that when you bet but that goes with betting longshots.

pags11 · 07-16-07, 02:32 PM

have been trying to tell people for years that these guys are shaky...