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  • Tail My Lock
    Restricted User
    • 01-01-10
    • 68

    #1
    I Was Banned For Not Tipping
    Every Tuesday I go to Murphy's Taproom in Manchester to hang out with a bunch of liberty-oriented people. This is a famous event among Free-staters. About 40-60 people gather weekly for about 4 hours and eat and drink and are merry. I'm no longer allowed to go there, because I don't tip.


    I've written some of my thoughts about tipping in the past, and have since fleshed out my position in my mind, so I won't focus here on the reasons to tip or not to tip. Here, I want to merely explain what happened tonight.


    About 6 weeks ago, someone at Murphy's charged my credit card for a tip even though I did not pay one. I probably wrote a "0" (zero) on the tip line because I have done that for years, but perhaps the waiter, or whomever, hand-wrote "3.0" in front of that to look like "3.00," because they charged me a $3.00 tip. Next Tuesday I told Keith Murphy, the owner of Murphy's Taproom, and he refunded my $3.00. I did not ask to see the original receipt and he did not offer to let me see it.

    Then, a few weeks later, I was again charged for a tip that I did not offer. In case you're curious, I do not tip ever, so I am positive that I did not tip in either of these instances. So tonight when I was gathering with my friends at Murphy's, I told Keith it happened again, for $4.00 this time. He said he'd look into it and refund my money if it was true (he has no reason to trust me, so I accept that he should trust the original paperwork). But then he asked me if I tipped the waitress in cash. I said "No." He asked me how I tipped the waitress. I said "I didn't. I don't tip." Keith then asked me to come with him into the back room to talk about it.

    On the way back he said to me, "I've got to warn you, I was a waiter for 10 years." I'm sure this was meant to alert me to his position on the matter, which seemed to be pro-tipping, but it seems odd to think that me knowing his position would alter mine.


    He asked if I received good service. I told him "The service is average here, but I can understand why: the place is a zoo. People are changing tables, moving around, it's crowded..." I was being conservative in that estimation of the quality of service: service at Murphy's is generally pretty bad (not always!) but for the aforementioned, understandable reasons.


    He let me know that the waiters earned $3.00 per hour. I said, "Yeah, I learned that a month ago. That doesn't happen in California." He told me it's standard on the east coast, which I also learned about a month ago.


    He asked me why I don't tip waiters that earn $3.00 per hour, and I told him "It's not my problem or choice. They chose to work for $3.00 per hour and could choose another job that paid more if they wanted to." He asked for more reasons, and I told him "I don't tip anyone" and "if I tip the waiters, why don't I tip the cook or the owner?," and possibly one or two more reasons. He said "But you do tip me [the owner], in a way. I get a small portion each time you pay." And I replied, "So do the waiters: $3.00 per hour."


    To this, Keith replied, "I don't pay my waiters $3.00 per hour to give good service." I said, "Yes, you do." He said, "No, I don't." I said, "Yes, you do. You hired them at $3.00 to do what?" And he said "To wait on customers..." - and here he realized what he was saying, and added "...with the expectation of receiving the standard 15-20% tip in addition to their wages." He also told me that "tipping is a custom in this country - at least, and many others." I'm aware of this, and I'm aware of countries in which tipping is considered an insult (e.g., Japan), and I'm aware that on cruise ships, for example, that are in international waters and flying flags of convenience (i.e., they are not in any country), tipping is also customary; I did not mention any of this to Keith.


    Keith then told me, "This is nothing personal against you, but if you're not going to take care of my wait staff, I don't want you in my restaurant. It's your right to not tip, but it's my right to not want you as a customer." I replied, "OK. I understand. Please refund my $4.00 and I'll leave. Can I have five minutes to say goodbye to my friends?" He allowed me five minutes.


    As I was saying goodbye to my friends, Keith approached me and gave me my $4.00 and showed me the original receipt, explaining "It was an accident. The waitress though the zero you wrote on the tip line was a four, and you can see it does kind of look like a four." It did indeed look like a four. But I did not write it that way. When I write any dollar amount, ever, I write the full amount, like "$4.00" or "4.00" - never like "4" - but on the receipt, all that was written was "0" and that had a few extra lines and squiggles that made it look kind of like a "4." And the number "3" in the total amount at the bottom of the receipt had been written over as well, to make "$23.20" look like "$27.20" - I did not do that, either. I stuttered a few seconds, trying to find a polite way to tell Keith that it was not an accident, that his waitress intentionally stole my money, but I figured he was not going to un-ban me and I didn't see a point, so I just said, "OK."


    I recognize that it is Keith's restaurant - his private property - and as such he has the right to choose his customers. I do not hold it against him that he banned me, or even that he disagrees with me about tipping. I am merely disappointed that I will no longer be able to go to Taproom Tuesdays. I really enjoyed that event. And there are some friends that I hardly ever see except there. Oh well, I'll have to make more of an effort to see them elsewhere.


    I realize, though, that what Keith essentially did was ban me from the restaurant because he's too cheap to pay his wait staff better. That's not exactly true, because the government has a law saying that restaurant owners must pay their tip-receiving wait staff exactly $3.00 per hour - no more and no less. But Keith could make better arrangements with his employees and not hold his customers responsible for his wait staff's well-being. Keith could, for example, pay his wait staff more, but keep it under the table; or he could offer to give them, out of his own pocket, the difference between whatever his customers tip and 20% of their bill; or he could make a policy in his restaurant that tipping is not allowed, and then the law would allow him to pay them more; or he could even help his wait staff recognize that Tips are not guaranteed like wages are, even as reward for good service. But he would rather pay them less of his own money and rely on his customers to follow tradition and give them more money. And his decision to do so, in this case, cost him a customer.


  • HotStreak
    SBR MVP
    • 05-12-09
    • 3235

    #2
    What if they added an additional 15-20% to the price of the food and beverages in order to be able to pay their staff better?
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    • Preston09
      SBR MVP
      • 05-19-09
      • 1834

      #3
      start paying cash...
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      • HotStreak
        SBR MVP
        • 05-12-09
        • 3235

        #4
        Also, in a place that is very busy. " A zoo" as you described it, why would you even consider not tipping. The staff could ignore you all night, and it would not make one bit of difference in their bottom line. You will not be missed.

        If your large group of friends stop going there in protest of your treatment, that would be a statement; however, I have a feeling that many of them would not agree with your principles. A good percentage of the population has at one time in their life worked for tips. You have the right to your beliefs, but accept the pitfalls that come with them when you are in the minority.
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        • keitht
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 12-06-08
          • 878

          #5
          you should tip, bitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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          • keitht
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 12-06-08
            • 878

            #6
            you must be a tight ass pussy not to tip.... lucky owner didnt split your skull!!!!
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            • Unicorn7
              Restricted User
              • 08-29-09
              • 1445

              #7
              those workers count on tips to pay their bills..thats why they are there serving you like slaves..its not because they enjoy it
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              • landers781
                SBR MVP
                • 02-27-09
                • 4774

                #8
                pretty sure the OP isnt the guy that wrote the blog article
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                • geebert74
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-03-09
                  • 2445

                  #9
                  You have every right not to tip... They have every right not to serve you... It's pretty much the case of who gets to who first.

                  Personally, if it is a place i go to often enough I do tip... But if I go somewhere that I do not go often and don't care what they think of me, they are not getting a dime out of me...
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                  • Willie Bee
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-14-06
                    • 15726

                    #10
                    Originally posted by HotStreak
                    What if they added an additional 15-20% to the price of the food and beverages in order to be able to pay their staff better?
                    You mean like how 'Keith' figures in his own take to the price of food and drink?
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                    • HotStreak
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-12-09
                      • 3235

                      #11
                      That owner is awesome. He must have got a nice BJ from the waitress for what he did to you. To his staff, he is a hero.
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                      • jellobiafra
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 03-08-09
                        • 6291

                        #12
                        I hope you get hit by a fukking bus today.

                        Really, I do. You are an asshole of enormous magnitude.

                        God bless Keith, owner of Murphy's Taphouse in Manchester.
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                        • HotStreak
                          SBR MVP
                          • 05-12-09
                          • 3235

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jellobiafra
                          I hope you get hit by a fukking bus today.

                          Really, I do. You are an asshole of enormous magnitude.

                          God bless Keith, owner of Murphy's Taphouse in Manchester.
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                          • paco
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 05-07-09
                            • 62873

                            #14
                            U cheap fvck. I hope u lose ur job and have to work as a waiter
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                            • topgame85
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 03-30-08
                              • 12325

                              #15
                              I always tip 20-40%, i worked as a server for two weeks several years ago and it is a shit job, those people deserve to get excited seeing a decent tip after the shit they deal with daily, I could not take it and quit after 2 weeks. Anyone who does not tip either does not understand how shitty these peoples lives are or do understand and are just cheap cock suckers
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                              • Rio DiNero
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-03-08
                                • 2010

                                #16
                                Why wouldn't you tip at a place you frequent every week? If I was you I'd be afraid of the waiter messing with my food, because if I was your waiter (not that I am a waiter, or ever will be) I'd give your food a little extra "special sauce" and maybe a quick rub on my balls. I'm sure the staff at Murphy's laughed every time you bit into your cheeseburger!
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                                • Willie Bee
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 02-14-06
                                  • 15726

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by topgame85
                                  Anyone who does not tip either does not understand how shitty these peoples lives are or do understand and are just cheap cock suckers
                                  One might say the reverse is true: People that work for tips and don't understand that not everyone either tips as much as you or even tips at all is just a naive little cock sucker.

                                  We've had these tip discussions before and everyone seems to think their notion of what is right and wrong, what percentage of the total bill should be left for a tip, is the only way. If a bar/cafe owner feels that ALL patrons should tip a certain percent, then either hang a big sign saying it's a requirement or simply up the cost of their goods x-percent and hang a sign saying no tipping is necessary.
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                                  • topgame85
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 03-30-08
                                    • 12325

                                    #18
                                    You want a polo shirt you don't pay wal mart prices, you want a sony flatscreed you don't pay vizio prices, you want to wager enough on a -110 to win 100 you don't lay $10 you lay $100.
                                    You want good service you tip well!!!!!!!!!1 You will be rembered and taken care of ALWAYS. I hope they nut in the guys food and intentionally stole his money.
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                                    • xfrozenx
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 05-18-08
                                      • 861

                                      #19
                                      I agree with the owner. Sorry. When I go out to eat or to a bar I know that the waitresses or waiters don't make a lot of money. They are doing it because they want a job while they are in college, etc... So, I generally give 15-20% of whatever my bill is. They respect you when you go back and treat you way better than those that don't tip. Which, is nice. They love seeing a 20-25% tip and depending on the service sometimes I go over 20%. They seat you first or they handle your drinks first. They make sure you're refilled at the bar 24/7. Sure it's to make more money but it's also to make you happy. Those that don't tip shouldn't be served. Sorry, the one place you should tip is in a restaurant. Everyone knows that.

                                      Now for door holders etc....I wouldn't tip. Sorry, I find it retarded to tip someone that wants to carry my bag up to my room at a hotel or hold the door for me. I can do all that myself.

                                      The owner had a right and I agree with him. I guess you have to understand where they are coming from in order to actually tip. They aren't born with money. Those that aren't born rich are much more appreciative towards getting a few extra dollars. I'm not assuming you are, I'm just saying.
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                                      • Willie Bee
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-14-06
                                        • 15726

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by topgame85
                                        ...you want to wager enough on a -110 to win 100 you don't lay $10 you lay $100.
                                        And this relates to tipping how?
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                                        • ucbearcats1027
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 01-05-09
                                          • 903

                                          #21
                                          cheap bitch
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                                          • RogueScholar
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 02-05-07
                                            • 5082

                                            #22
                                            Why does nobody address the backwards laws in these states that think it's okay to pay people $3/hour because social customs engender the clientele to leave charity for them? Can't we just pay people fairly and take the discretion out of it?
                                            Originally posted by StraitShooter
                                            90% of the guys dont give a shit about your problems..and the other 10 are glad you have them..
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                                            • bruceBRUCEbruce
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 06-20-09
                                              • 2560

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Unicorn7
                                              those workers count on tips to pay their bills..thats why they are there serving you like slaves..its not because they enjoy it
                                              slaves? really?

                                              most servers these days that I encounter certainly don't work like slaves and seem to expect 20% not matter how they've performed in the job they were hired to do.
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                                              • fsugolf
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 07-17-09
                                                • 6194

                                                #24
                                                service dependent....I've tipped anywhere from 1 cent to 60%
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                                                • MJT1212
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 02-16-09
                                                  • 5124

                                                  #25
                                                  I used to be a waiter for years.

                                                  Let me just say, it's pieces of shit like you that make people have to forgo paying their bills to eat.

                                                  THE GOVERNMENT IN THE USA MAKES SERVICE STAFF'S WAGE MINIMUM LOW BECAUSE EVERYONE IS SUPPOSED TO TIP. ONLY TIME YOU SHOULD NOT TIP IS IF SOMETHING REALLY FUKKED HAPPENS THAT IS THE FAULT OF YOUR SERVER, and I still leave 15% in that case, usually leave 25% or more though, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR DRINKING.

                                                  There's only one type of people I knew of in the restraunt that did not tip on a regular basis, you must be one of them, and for these people it was becase they're cheap ****s that thought they were owed free service everyday, and not to mention, the BEST SERVICE is what they required, for free.

                                                  You should be banned from America, non-tipping son of a bitch. You should just be glad all you were is banned and not beatin to a bloody pulp. If I would of been your server more than twice with no tip, I would of confronted you and probably punched you right in your teeth.

                                                  And for you to bring up some Japan, tipping is and insult bullshit, are you joking me? THIS ISN'T JAPAN JACK ASS, TIP or continue being a worthless fukk who steals service from the hard workers. Would you want to work on salary and not get paid for your work? Tips expected is part of their salary, that's why they have to report them on taxes as "salary".

                                                  Your a cheap, sad excuse for a human being, stay at home and serve yourself if you don't want to tip, don't go steal service.
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                                                  • yisman
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 09-01-08
                                                    • 75682

                                                    #26
                                                    or he could make a policy in his restaurant that tipping is not allowed, and then the law would allow him to pay them more
                                                    Yeah, if he went insane. No good businessman would do that.
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                                                    • Richkas
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 02-03-08
                                                      • 19396

                                                      #27
                                                      Where is Manchester? If its not in the USA who cares. This is a American board.
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                                                      • Swinging Johnson
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 08-12-09
                                                        • 7604

                                                        #28
                                                        I was going to enter the fray but quite honestly, I am very relieved to read that SBR posters are typical of the best tippers on the planet....gamblers! Tail MY Lock...you are out of line son. Don't blame the bar owners for not paying more than the $3 per hour. They've got to compete on a level playing field. It's a standard in this country to tip. Some people are more generous than others but if you don't tip at all then I wouldn't want to crawl in a foxhole with you. Cheap=Selfish.
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                                                        • mathdotcom
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 03-24-08
                                                          • 11689

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Tail My Lock
                                                          Every Tuesday I go to Murphy's Taproom in Manchester to hang out with a bunch of liberty-oriented people. This is a famous event among Free-staters. About 40-60 people gather weekly for about 4 hours and eat and drink and are merry. I'm no longer allowed to go there, because I don't tip.


                                                          I've written some of my thoughts about tipping in the past, and have since fleshed out my position in my mind, so I won't focus here on the reasons to tip or not to tip. Here, I want to merely explain what happened tonight.


                                                          About 6 weeks ago, someone at Murphy's charged my credit card for a tip even though I did not pay one. I probably wrote a "0" (zero) on the tip line because I have done that for years, but perhaps the waiter, or whomever, hand-wrote "3.0" in front of that to look like "3.00," because they charged me a $3.00 tip. Next Tuesday I told Keith Murphy, the owner of Murphy's Taproom, and he refunded my $3.00. I did not ask to see the original receipt and he did not offer to let me see it.

                                                          Then, a few weeks later, I was again charged for a tip that I did not offer. In case you're curious, I do not tip ever, so I am positive that I did not tip in either of these instances. So tonight when I was gathering with my friends at Murphy's, I told Keith it happened again, for $4.00 this time. He said he'd look into it and refund my money if it was true (he has no reason to trust me, so I accept that he should trust the original paperwork). But then he asked me if I tipped the waitress in cash. I said "No." He asked me how I tipped the waitress. I said "I didn't. I don't tip." Keith then asked me to come with him into the back room to talk about it.

                                                          On the way back he said to me, "I've got to warn you, I was a waiter for 10 years." I'm sure this was meant to alert me to his position on the matter, which seemed to be pro-tipping, but it seems odd to think that me knowing his position would alter mine.


                                                          He asked if I received good service. I told him "The service is average here, but I can understand why: the place is a zoo. People are changing tables, moving around, it's crowded..." I was being conservative in that estimation of the quality of service: service at Murphy's is generally pretty bad (not always!) but for the aforementioned, understandable reasons.


                                                          He let me know that the waiters earned $3.00 per hour. I said, "Yeah, I learned that a month ago. That doesn't happen in California." He told me it's standard on the east coast, which I also learned about a month ago.


                                                          He asked me why I don't tip waiters that earn $3.00 per hour, and I told him "It's not my problem or choice. They chose to work for $3.00 per hour and could choose another job that paid more if they wanted to." He asked for more reasons, and I told him "I don't tip anyone" and "if I tip the waiters, why don't I tip the cook or the owner?," and possibly one or two more reasons. He said "But you do tip me [the owner], in a way. I get a small portion each time you pay." And I replied, "So do the waiters: $3.00 per hour."


                                                          To this, Keith replied, "I don't pay my waiters $3.00 per hour to give good service." I said, "Yes, you do." He said, "No, I don't." I said, "Yes, you do. You hired them at $3.00 to do what?" And he said "To wait on customers..." - and here he realized what he was saying, and added "...with the expectation of receiving the standard 15-20% tip in addition to their wages." He also told me that "tipping is a custom in this country - at least, and many others." I'm aware of this, and I'm aware of countries in which tipping is considered an insult (e.g., Japan), and I'm aware that on cruise ships, for example, that are in international waters and flying flags of convenience (i.e., they are not in any country), tipping is also customary; I did not mention any of this to Keith.


                                                          Keith then told me, "This is nothing personal against you, but if you're not going to take care of my wait staff, I don't want you in my restaurant. It's your right to not tip, but it's my right to not want you as a customer." I replied, "OK. I understand. Please refund my $4.00 and I'll leave. Can I have five minutes to say goodbye to my friends?" He allowed me five minutes.


                                                          As I was saying goodbye to my friends, Keith approached me and gave me my $4.00 and showed me the original receipt, explaining "It was an accident. The waitress though the zero you wrote on the tip line was a four, and you can see it does kind of look like a four." It did indeed look like a four. But I did not write it that way. When I write any dollar amount, ever, I write the full amount, like "$4.00" or "4.00" - never like "4" - but on the receipt, all that was written was "0" and that had a few extra lines and squiggles that made it look kind of like a "4." And the number "3" in the total amount at the bottom of the receipt had been written over as well, to make "$23.20" look like "$27.20" - I did not do that, either. I stuttered a few seconds, trying to find a polite way to tell Keith that it was not an accident, that his waitress intentionally stole my money, but I figured he was not going to un-ban me and I didn't see a point, so I just said, "OK."


                                                          I recognize that it is Keith's restaurant - his private property - and as such he has the right to choose his customers. I do not hold it against him that he banned me, or even that he disagrees with me about tipping. I am merely disappointed that I will no longer be able to go to Taproom Tuesdays. I really enjoyed that event. And there are some friends that I hardly ever see except there. Oh well, I'll have to make more of an effort to see them elsewhere.


                                                          I realize, though, that what Keith essentially did was ban me from the restaurant because he's too cheap to pay his wait staff better. That's not exactly true, because the government has a law saying that restaurant owners must pay their tip-receiving wait staff exactly $3.00 per hour - no more and no less. But Keith could make better arrangements with his employees and not hold his customers responsible for his wait staff's well-being. Keith could, for example, pay his wait staff more, but keep it under the table; or he could offer to give them, out of his own pocket, the difference between whatever his customers tip and 20% of their bill; or he could make a policy in his restaurant that tipping is not allowed, and then the law would allow him to pay them more; or he could even help his wait staff recognize that Tips are not guaranteed like wages are, even as reward for good service. But he would rather pay them less of his own money and rely on his customers to follow tradition and give them more money. And his decision to do so, in this case, cost him a customer.


                                                          http://mike.barskey.net/Mike_Barskey...t_Tipping.html
                                                          1] You are a cheap fukk. This has nothing to do with your reason for not tipping. It is just plain to see. And you're British, so that's a dead giveaway.

                                                          2] Your reasons for not tipping are retarded. If the waiters were paid $20/hr and did not receive tips, then meals everywhere would cost more. Would you prefer that? Now you have waiters who have absolutely zero incentive to provide good service. I agree that if the service is bad you should not feel obligated to tip, but if the service is good then you are a thief - it is equivalent to paying $10 for a $15 meal at McDonald's and running away.

                                                          3] Your friends must be glad you're fukkin gone. I am sure you bring nothing but embarrassment to their table. I would not want to be anywhere near someone as petty as you.

                                                          4] The cooks do receive tips in a lot of places, it is taken as a portion of the waiters' total tips. The reasoning is that the better the meal, the better the tip, the more $$ for cooks. If the meal sucks and the patrons are disappointed you can't expect the waiter to get as good a tip.

                                                          5] Look at where tipping occurs - it's almost always in places where quality of the product can vary. Even some CEOs get shitty salaries except for a shitload of stock options, tying the quality of his management decisions to his wage.

                                                          I echo the sentiments of others who hope you get hit by a bus. Fukkin brits, any excuse to save a couple pennies.
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                                                          • Cappy
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 07-26-08
                                                            • 784

                                                            #30
                                                            how about, instead of encouraging the world to change, you change. You don't have to tip 20%, but you should only tip 0 if the service was so bad you're unlikely to go back.

                                                            You're so myopic. It was wrong for them to steal a tip from you, but for you to have an iron clad rule of not tipping is you stealing from them.
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                                                            • pavyracer
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 04-12-07
                                                              • 82897

                                                              #31
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                                                              • MJT1212
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 02-16-09
                                                                • 5124

                                                                #32
                                                                BUSTED by the owner. I'm SO glad you were banned. You ever heard of karma? We'll it will come back to you in the form of lost sports bets and getting hit by a bus in the near future.

                                                                HAPPY BETTING AND BE SURE TO LOOK BOTH WAYS! Sure wouldn't want to be you these days.
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                                                                • Tail My Lock
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 01-01-10
                                                                  • 68

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Swinging Johnson
                                                                  I was going to enter the fray but quite honestly, I am very relieved to read that SBR posters are typical of the best tippers on the planet....gamblers! Tail MY Lock...you are out of line son. Don't blame the bar owners for not paying more than the $3 per hour. They've got to compete on a level playing field. It's a standard in this country to tip. Some people are more generous than others but if you don't tip at all then I wouldn't want to crawl in a foxhole with you. Cheap=Selfish.
                                                                  Note: If I post a link, Then I am not the author.

                                                                  And your casino sucks.
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                                                                  • AMBlai01
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 09-16-08
                                                                    • 5882

                                                                    #34
                                                                    When I was in London last year the thing I noticed most (other than how bad the food was) was how bad the service was. I think its directly related to the fact that those people don't work for tips. They have no incentive to actually give you good service at all.

                                                                    That being said this guy is an idiot. You do what is right in each country you are in...it is not your choice to just NOT TIP in the United States.
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                                                                    • HotStreak
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 05-12-09
                                                                      • 3235

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I believe Manchester is in New Hampshire, USA.
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