Why do Americans value life so much more than other countries?

[bettilimbroke999]

A UK citizen was executed for smuggling 9 lbs of heroin into China a year after a 30 min trial, here we've got a dude that 100% shot and killed several ppl at a military base but we spend a fortune to help him recover in a hospital then have some multi-million dollar joke trial to find him guilty when a monkey could figure out in 2 secs he is guilty as sin, then he'll either get life in prison or sit on death row for years exhausting some comical appeals

In other countries if you're even believed to be guilty of any serious crime you get tried in 30 mins for 50 bucks and executed at sunrise, in US you could be absolutely guilty of killing 50 ppl and theyll take 10 years and 5 million worth of court costs to execute you

We gotta speed this shit along when there's no question of guilt, this Muslim Texas base killer has got to fukin go, 30 min trial for a laugh, then led outside and bullet to head done, 50 bucks more than should've been wasted on this POS

[Chi_archie]

slippery slope


how many people that were sentenced to life in prison or on death row, has new CSI like evidence exonerated. tell me how many innocent a year are you willing to maybe let die, for the sake of speed and savings in tax $, that Congress will just spend in some other stupid manner anyways?

[louisvillekid]

well where would the fun be in that for all involved. you gotta have drama for rating and all the tv talking heads on the tube and paper and radio. gotta let it drag out in court so all the judges and attorneys and even the jurors can all write a book about the ordeal. gotta let the guilty sit on death row for numerous tv interviews and their "final" tell-all with the made for tv movie-of-the-week. it's capitalism at it's best not communism.

[reno cool]

all the lawyers, courts, and prisons gots to make their money somehow.

[UntilTheNDofTimE]

reno is always around the political scheme

[bettilimbroke999]

When your 100% guilty as sin you get tried in a 30 min special and executed in a year thats all, besides that 95%+ of the convictions are correct, 5% get convicted of shit they're innocent of prolly bc they are career criminals that the police figure are the most likely to be guilty and have been in and out of jail so many times that a jury figures they're prolly guilty of the crime, so you execute 95% guilty and 5% career criminals that are innocent of one crime, thats an acceptable loss in my opinion for the fortune it saves

You talk about convictions overturned but we've got 2% of the population in prison right now, so lets see 2% of over 300 mil that's over 6 million ppl, so lets say 2000 convictions have been overturned so what's that like a 1/3 of a percent lol, I mean you might as well eliminate the justice system and release every convict if you cant accept a 1/3 of a percent error rate

If you're part of the 1/3 of a percent that was completely innocent yet somehow cant afford or borrow a couple hundred bucks for DNA testing on the semen in the dead girls pussy then you're just out of luck, you shoulda saved up a couple hundred bucks for just such an occasion, I keep an extra 200 set aside just in case the cops say a girl was raped and murdered tonight and they are short on DNA test funding so they just assume it was my DNA

[Chi_archie]

again slippery slope..... the .33% matters if it is your brother or son. but let's not go by percentages

139 people on death row exonerated thus far. that's like 4 school buses filled with innocent people.

again what is the big rush? explain that part again

[bettilimbroke999]

Other than saving tax payers a fortune there is no point, whats the point of keeping murderers in a cage for 70 years? So they each get a nice view of a toilet and bars for the next 70 years for 4 million dollars that could go to more productive things than building and running cages to hold prisoners society doesn't think should ever be let out anyway

[Chi_archie]

the answer is $ that you and I will never see...... GREAT

the government loves to spend saved $ on causes that you and I love, no doubt

[bettilimbroke999]

Improve education, roads, hell fix a few levies in New Orleans rather than build homes for serial killers, or just tax ppl 100s of millions less idc, what sense does it make to blow millions to keep a convicted killer with life without parole in a cage for 70 years? China would've executed him in 30 mins

[Rich Boy]

Is it me, or is this guy an idiot?

[bettilimbroke999]

Its you

[THE PROFIT]

Don't give me that bullshit about taxpayers money! How about we continue to give every citizen of this country a fair trial, at least as fair as it can be. Instead lets stop spending tax money on building jails. Lets put criminals in jail, not people who like to get high. Over 60% of prisons have non violent drug offenders taking up space & taxpayers money. That's way more ridicilous than giving people a fair trial. The legalization of marijuana would solve 90% of the social & economic problems in this country.

[wtf]

u know why china executes them immediately cause it acts as an effective deterrent

i know chi would defend this garbage that fills the prisons

but imagine if america had five times its current population like china does

the whole country would be comprised of prisons

china maintains control by having effective crime deterence

of course americans think they are morally superior, what a fukin joke , tell that to the families oj ruined

[wtf]

further to chi's butt licking of all his friends he babysits all day

he sounds like the sixth grade debating team, better to free fifty guilty men then to imprison one non-guilty

wrong it is better to imprison them all

[bettilimbroke999]

Don't give me that bullshit about taxpayers money! How about we continue to give every citizen of this country a fair trial, at least as fair as it can be. Instead lets stop spending tax money on building jails. Lets put criminals in jail, not people who like to get high. Over 60% of prisons have non violent drug offenders taking up space & taxpayers money. That's way more ridicilous than giving people a fair trial. The legalization of marijuana would solve 90% of the social & economic problems in this country.

So if you steal a bunch of shit they should let you go bc you're nonviolent? Sell crack/meth etc that kills ppl and you should just get rich and have the govt pay to rehab/recover your customers? Sure marijuana should be legalized but it would still be treated like alcohol you couldnt get stoned then drive around half conscious and thats the only time anyone is ever caught with weed anyway. I've never heard of the cops bustin into ppls homes and just searching for a joint, unless your growing a weed farm in your home you have nothing to worry about and the drug dealers will just move to the next profitable drug as soon as marijuana is legalized (crack/meth/heroin) anyway and will still end up in prison bc its not about weed to them its about makin money by marking up something that is very cheap to produce but expensive to buy bc its illegal, when weed is sold in gas stations they will just move on to other illegal drugs they wont just suddenly become legitimate businessmen who used to spend a fortune building underground weed farms, theyll just turn that underground weed farm into a meth lab

[bettilimbroke999]

further to chi's butt licking of all his friends he babysits all day

he sounds like the sixth grade debating team, better to free fifty guilty men then to imprison one non-guilty

wrong it is better to imprison them all

Chi doesn't realize that there are some fukin bad seeds in the world that just rape/kill and dont feel any which way about it, flip through the paper or internet and youll find crimes which defy any explanation just recently a teen gang member shot a father of 5 through the eyes for his cell phone (as the guy was handing the kid his cell phone the gun just went off ), look through the paper if you live in a city with high percentage of minorities and you'll read shit like that all the time, imo that scumbag kid should be shot on the spot but Chi will feel sorry for the kid bc he's poor and tell you to give him milk and cookies and encourage him not to do that in the future bc Chi is lucky enough not to have been on the receivin end of that kids 9 mm

[paco]

Stfu, infidel. Don't forget ur own countries constitution.

[jw]

So you are saying that America values life too much by arguing that America should just go ahead and kill someone ...



Is this your first Rodeo cowboy?

[necro]

I think that's because they are very religious...

[jw]

I think that's because they are very religious...

10 Commandments: #6, Thou Shall Not Kill .. I don't remember an "..... unless ... " in there

[smitch124]

China is just one country, many countries do not even have the death penalty. So the whole premise of this thread is off.

[Skidcom]

One of the most amazing and important trends of the past few years has been the release of death row inmates exonerated by DNA evidence. I get chills and am distressed though when I think of how many innocents may have been executed. I do think, however, that inmates should have a choice of death over life imprisonment

[bettilimbroke999]

So you are saying that America values life too much by arguing that America should just go ahead and kill someone ...



Is this your first Rodeo cowboy?

Dude get real, Im not talkin about just executing ppl for no reason, if you killed multiple ppl at a Texas army base for no reason you get killed sorry, in your next life dont go around killin ppl for fun and you wont be killed

Spending millions tryin scumbags like these for years and joke appeals fuk that shit, if they got evidence which absolutely proves you did it there needs to be a fast forward button on this shit bc your going to be convicted anyway, no ones going to say oh is semen was in the girl he said hed never met and her DNA was in his trunk and blah blah blah but maybe he didnt do it, I find him not guilty, its a fukin joke

Then when you find someone guilty of a crime as serious as that at sunrise the next day they are swingin from a tree end of story, net expense to taxpayer <$100

[bettilimbroke999]

Stfu, infidel. Don't forget ur own countries constitution.

If ya think we're all infidels go back to your country and get blown up by your own ppl

[nosniboR11]

Im telling ya , with all of paco's post , he is going to be on a terrorist watch list real soon,

[teaserpleaser]

Its you

[Lost Angel]

Over 60% of prisons have non violent drug offenders taking up space & taxpayers money. That's way more ridiculous than giving people a fair trial. The legalization of marijuana would solve 90% of the social & economic problems in this country.

Just don't tell me please that you want a condition where Meth Heads, Speed Freaks are allowed to be out running around. These people are bad bad news.

Weed? Obviously. Jailing folks for Ganja related offenses is so fukkin ridiculous it defies words but Meth, Crack, Crystal, Ice, whatever...chronic users of these substances must be removed from society.

[Lost Angel]

10 Commandments: #6, Thou Shall Not Kill .. I don't remember an "..... unless ... " in there

Oh yeah lets remind everyone of ancient tomes that were written in a time when the idea of the planet being inhabited by billions of people, most of them with IQs below 36 was incomprehensible.

Scripture is useful for knitted wall hangings and failed actors/conmen to steal money while posing as preachers beyond that these words have as much relevance to this world as does GREEK Mythology.

[paco]

I Love America. It is the best country in the world. It has given me and my family numerous oppurtunity's which made our lives better. My thing is why do we feel we have to be the police of the whole world? Who cares if human rights in a country on the other side of the world is being ignored, thas there problem, not 1 of the USA

[Lost Angel]

why do we feel we have to be the police of the whole world? Who cares if human rights in a country on the other side of the world is being ignored, thats there problem, not 1 of the USA

To me it all ties back into Religion, Americans feel their God is better than others and they've totally misunderstood the intent of the statement "Have no other Gods before Me" which was designed to ensure than ALL monies within a given community of people were directed to one central church and NOT designed to lead fools to punish others for worshiping other Gods.

In addition to the question of why we need to Police the World though is the question of why we do so with such idiots heading up this "police force"? Dick Cheney being a prime example of such.

Whoever is was who installed The Shah of Iran way back when being another good example....CIA I guess was responsible for that one....maybe George Bush Sr. having a hand in that...could have been about the time he was CIA....

We are led by fools.

[nosniboR11]

dont be scared now paco, you have made to many statements being with this idiot fu cking terrorist muslims, keep the good posting up and see who visits you and your family

[pavyracer]

They should not kill inmates. Most prisons are not crowded. We need more inmates to get more jobs. Quit killing inmates and jobs. Also the more prisons we build the more jobs we create.

[reno cool]

some good points. But lets not make the mistake of thinking money saved on courts or prison will go somewhere good. Archie alluded to this. US govt has plenty of resources, it just doesn't have any intentions of doing anything good with them. Prisons are a huge industry. It's not like the $ spent is going to the prisoner. In fact many work for basically free.

[pico]

all the lawyers, courts, and prisons gots to make their money somehow.