Nicky you don't know any player's c'mon pal who ya kidding
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Nicky Santoro
SBR Posting Legend
04-08-08
16103
#6
chi, i won't lie. i'll give it to you straight.
mlb is my fav sport. i can name probably 132 players in mlb, but ask me what teams they play for.. maybe 66 players..
nhl, probably 112 players. what teams, maybe 88 players
nba, maybe 54 players.. what teams, maybe 36
nfl, maybe 29 players.. what teams, maybe 22.
ncaaf--- 0 players, sorry, 1 tim tebow..
ncaab--- 0 players.
i can't even name you 1 college player in the last 12 yrs, no joke. ncaa is dead here in canada..
and this is the god's honest truth.
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#7
you love MLB more than NHL?????
c'mon
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GiveMeaBJ
SBR Hall of Famer
09-08-09
8449
#8
Phillies no way, there back end is to soft.
Gotta say M's or Red Sox
Lester/Beckett/Lackey
Lee/Felix/Snell
Both great front 3's
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#9
Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
i can't even name you 1 college player in the last 12 yrs, no joke. ncaa is dead here in canada..
chances are that if you know all those NBA, NFL, MLB, and NHL players...... you know a few college players from the past 12 years....... .that's where 55% of them played before they were drafted into the pros
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#10
snell???? c'mon
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lyon804
SBR Hall of Famer
11-02-09
6526
#11
Boston Redsox without a doubt.
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GiveMeaBJ
SBR Hall of Famer
09-08-09
8449
#12
Lol, chi...as I was typing Snell it didn't feel right but Lee and Felix make up for it.
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#13
I'm thinking you guys don't realize that the Yanks have Javier vasquez now......
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Nicky Santoro
SBR Posting Legend
04-08-08
16103
#14
Originally posted by Chi_archie
chances are that if you know all those NBA, NFL, MLB, and NHL players...... you know a few college players from the past 12 years....... .that's where 55% of them played before they were drafted into the pros
yes, but i have no idea where they played. i couldn't name you 1 player and what college they played at.. and Yes, i do like baseball more than hockey.. honest.. i adore baseball.. there's no game like it..
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tullamore
SBR MVP
07-17-07
3586
#15
Originally posted by Chi_archie
I'm thinking you guys don't realize that the Yanks have Javier Lopez now......
Javier Vasquez
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clonecat
SBR MVP
08-29-05
1225
#16
Depends if the Marlins trade Josh Johnson.
Yankees are a clear #1
Starting 5 only matters in regular season, post season can go with 3 or 4 making Phillies look really good with Halladay, Hamels, Happ.
Not sold on Lackey, believe he will break down this year.
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tullamore
SBR MVP
07-17-07
3586
#17
The better question is which team has the better staff 1 -8.
You never go through a season with just 5 starters and make the playoffs.
Those fringe starters who can give you 7 or 8 starts over the season is the key to one teams success.
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#18
too bad Happ didn't count for anything last post season
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#19
Originally posted by tullamore
The better question is which team has the better staff 1 -8.
You never go through a season with just 5 starters and make the playoffs.
Those fringe starters who can give you 7 or 8 starts over the season is the key to one teams success.
I don't believe that at all.... I'm more likely to go with the team with the strongest top 3-4 matters most.... 5-8 gets maybe 30-40 starts in a year.... and your offense/defense wins half of those no matter what if you are a contender
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#20
bullpen is way more important than 5th starter and spot starts IMO...... especially considering a big part of your "spot" starts are bullpen guys anyways
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GiveMeaBJ
SBR Hall of Famer
09-08-09
8449
#21
Yea Yanks for name value is the best starting 5. But there are too many question marks and no one is lights out a full year. The staff is always overrated because of the run support they get. It's easy to pitch with a 4 run lead.
CC will break down eventually, throws too many pitches and to fat not to.
AJ is injury prone and has games where he looks like Oliver Perez.
Vazquez is an NL pitcher
Pettite is what 45 now? How long can he continue to get by with a 4.50 era?
Joba? Really.
Feel like I am forgetting someone.
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GiveMeaBJ
SBR Hall of Famer
09-08-09
8449
#22
Injuries happen it is a part of the game, but you can never ever count on a 6 or 7 starter. Ever.
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#23
1-5 yanks starters are under 4 ERA career....... hard to beat...
CC will never break down c'mon
Vasquez was 15-8 with 3.74 era in the AL in 07 and don't tell me his 2.87 ERA last year in the NL counts for nothing
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tullamore
SBR MVP
07-17-07
3586
#24
Originally posted by Chi_archie
bullpen is way more important than 5th starter and spot starts IMO...... especially considering a big part of your "spot" starts are bullpen guys anyways
I guess may point is that some of those bullpen guys can be your 5th starter. Last year with the Red Sox before he was traded Justin Masterson filled this role. At the end of the year Bucholtz was arguably the Red Sox best starter, and he started the year in the minors.
Look at the Yankees they won in the playoffs because of their top of the rotation pitchers. But they struggled early in the year, beause their rotation was a mess, dispite scoring a bunch of runs.
Depth get you to the playoffs. But with 1 or 2 Aces you can win in the playoffs.
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GiveMeaBJ
SBR Hall of Famer
09-08-09
8449
#25
You need 2 lockdown guys to win in the post season.
CC/AJ
Beckett/Lackey/Lester
Felix/Lee
Halladay/Hamels if he can get it together
Carpenter/Wainwright
Lincecum/Cain
Tough to beat those in a 5 or 7 game series.
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#26
last year Boston had 37 starts by guys that were not "1-5" and the yanks had 32
I think it all evens out
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#27
let's keep in mind that Hamels was not even a top 50 pitcher last year
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GiveMeaBJ
SBR Hall of Famer
09-08-09
8449
#28
Hamels right now is going on a bunch of minor league hype and one good year. How many times have we seen a kid come up be great then a few years he gets figured out and can't get back to his old self.
Personally, I don't like Hamels. I don't think he is an ace, more of a 3 to me.
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tullamore
SBR MVP
07-17-07
3586
#29
I personally have more faith in Happ than Hamels.
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philswin
SBR MVP
04-18-07
1279
#30
Hamels has a devastating Changeup and a fastball with a lot of movement needs to develop his 3rd pitch cant be just fastball changeup that is all he ever needed. Throws a curve but needs improvement if he gets there he will be awesome again. Happs number were unbelievable under 3.00 in that stadium not sure if he can maintain that he has been a late bloomer. Blanton is a pretty good 4 starter. Smoltz will probably be signed to compete for the 5th starter with Moyer and Kendrick
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philswin
SBR MVP
04-18-07
1279
#31
Happ should have started in playoffs over Pedro. Manager is a moron
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82897
#32
Jurrjens
Hanson
Hudson
Lowe
Kawakami
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keyboarding
SBR Hall of Famer
07-30-09
6817
#33
Romero
Morrow
Marcum
McGowan
Cecil
Richmond
Drabek
Litsch
Janssen
Purcey
Rzepczynski
Mills
Tallet
Ray
Okay... maybe in a couple of years.
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Chi_archie
SBR Aristocracy
07-22-08
63172
#34
wow, lots of varying opinions... half of MLB has been named it seems...... should be interesting to see how things work out by next sept
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cappinthepigs
SBR MVP
10-07-09
1864
#35
Mariners will be tough on their starting rotation.