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  • Chi_archie
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-22-08
    • 63172

    #1
    Best MLB Potential Starting 5 looking forward?
    Yankees
    Marlins
    White Sox
    Giants
    Cards


    anyone I left out?
  • tullamore
    SBR MVP
    • 07-17-07
    • 3586

    #2
    Red Sox
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    • Chi_archie
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-22-08
      • 63172

      #3
      Originally posted by tullamore
      Red Sox

      possibly, if Dice-K can get it back
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      • Nicky Santoro
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 04-08-08
        • 16103

        #4
        what about mariners and phillies??

        felix and lee??

        doc and hamels??
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        • Chi_archie
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-22-08
          • 63172

          #5
          Nicky you don't know any player's c'mon pal who ya kidding
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          • Nicky Santoro
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 04-08-08
            • 16103

            #6
            chi, i won't lie. i'll give it to you straight.

            mlb is my fav sport. i can name probably 132 players in mlb, but ask me what teams they play for.. maybe 66 players..

            nhl, probably 112 players. what teams, maybe 88 players

            nba, maybe 54 players.. what teams, maybe 36

            nfl, maybe 29 players.. what teams, maybe 22.


            ncaaf--- 0 players, sorry, 1 tim tebow..

            ncaab--- 0 players.

            i can't even name you 1 college player in the last 12 yrs, no joke. ncaa is dead here in canada..


            and this is the god's honest truth.
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            • Chi_archie
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-22-08
              • 63172

              #7
              you love MLB more than NHL?????

              c'mon
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              • GiveMeaBJ
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-08-09
                • 8449

                #8
                Phillies no way, there back end is to soft.

                Gotta say M's or Red Sox

                Lester/Beckett/Lackey
                Lee/Felix/Snell

                Both great front 3's
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                • Chi_archie
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-22-08
                  • 63172

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Nicky Santoro


                  i can't even name you 1 college player in the last 12 yrs, no joke. ncaa is dead here in canada..


                  chances are that if you know all those NBA, NFL, MLB, and NHL players...... you know a few college players from the past 12 years....... .that's where 55% of them played before they were drafted into the pros
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                  • Chi_archie
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-22-08
                    • 63172

                    #10
                    snell???? c'mon
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                    • lyon804
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 11-02-09
                      • 6526

                      #11
                      Boston Redsox without a doubt.
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                      • GiveMeaBJ
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-08-09
                        • 8449

                        #12
                        Lol, chi...as I was typing Snell it didn't feel right but Lee and Felix make up for it.
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                        • Chi_archie
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-22-08
                          • 63172

                          #13
                          I'm thinking you guys don't realize that the Yanks have Javier vasquez now......
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                          • Nicky Santoro
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 04-08-08
                            • 16103

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Chi_archie
                            chances are that if you know all those NBA, NFL, MLB, and NHL players...... you know a few college players from the past 12 years....... .that's where 55% of them played before they were drafted into the pros
                            yes, but i have no idea where they played. i couldn't name you 1 player and what college they played at.. and Yes, i do like baseball more than hockey.. honest.. i adore baseball.. there's no game like it..
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                            • tullamore
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-17-07
                              • 3586

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Chi_archie
                              I'm thinking you guys don't realize that the Yanks have Javier Lopez now......

                              Javier Vasquez
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                              • clonecat
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-29-05
                                • 1225

                                #16
                                Depends if the Marlins trade Josh Johnson.

                                Yankees are a clear #1

                                Starting 5 only matters in regular season, post season can go with 3 or 4 making Phillies look really good with Halladay, Hamels, Happ.

                                Not sold on Lackey, believe he will break down this year.
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                                • tullamore
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 07-17-07
                                  • 3586

                                  #17
                                  The better question is which team has the better staff 1 -8.

                                  You never go through a season with just 5 starters and make the playoffs.

                                  Those fringe starters who can give you 7 or 8 starts over the season is the key to one teams success.
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                                  • Chi_archie
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-22-08
                                    • 63172

                                    #18
                                    too bad Happ didn't count for anything last post season
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                                    • Chi_archie
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-22-08
                                      • 63172

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by tullamore
                                      The better question is which team has the better staff 1 -8.

                                      You never go through a season with just 5 starters and make the playoffs.

                                      Those fringe starters who can give you 7 or 8 starts over the season is the key to one teams success.

                                      I don't believe that at all.... I'm more likely to go with the team with the strongest top 3-4 matters most.... 5-8 gets maybe 30-40 starts in a year.... and your offense/defense wins half of those no matter what if you are a contender
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                                      • Chi_archie
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-22-08
                                        • 63172

                                        #20
                                        bullpen is way more important than 5th starter and spot starts IMO...... especially considering a big part of your "spot" starts are bullpen guys anyways
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                                        • GiveMeaBJ
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-08-09
                                          • 8449

                                          #21
                                          Yea Yanks for name value is the best starting 5. But there are too many question marks and no one is lights out a full year. The staff is always overrated because of the run support they get. It's easy to pitch with a 4 run lead.

                                          CC will break down eventually, throws too many pitches and to fat not to.
                                          AJ is injury prone and has games where he looks like Oliver Perez.
                                          Vazquez is an NL pitcher
                                          Pettite is what 45 now? How long can he continue to get by with a 4.50 era?
                                          Joba? Really.

                                          Feel like I am forgetting someone.
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                                          • GiveMeaBJ
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 09-08-09
                                            • 8449

                                            #22
                                            Injuries happen it is a part of the game, but you can never ever count on a 6 or 7 starter. Ever.
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                                            • Chi_archie
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-22-08
                                              • 63172

                                              #23
                                              1-5 yanks starters are under 4 ERA career....... hard to beat...


                                              CC will never break down c'mon

                                              Vasquez was 15-8 with 3.74 era in the AL in 07 and don't tell me his 2.87 ERA last year in the NL counts for nothing
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                                              • tullamore
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 07-17-07
                                                • 3586

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                bullpen is way more important than 5th starter and spot starts IMO...... especially considering a big part of your "spot" starts are bullpen guys anyways
                                                I guess may point is that some of those bullpen guys can be your 5th starter. Last year with the Red Sox before he was traded Justin Masterson filled this role. At the end of the year Bucholtz was arguably the Red Sox best starter, and he started the year in the minors.

                                                Look at the Yankees they won in the playoffs because of their top of the rotation pitchers. But they struggled early in the year, beause their rotation was a mess, dispite scoring a bunch of runs.

                                                Depth get you to the playoffs. But with 1 or 2 Aces you can win in the playoffs.
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                                                • GiveMeaBJ
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 09-08-09
                                                  • 8449

                                                  #25
                                                  You need 2 lockdown guys to win in the post season.

                                                  CC/AJ
                                                  Beckett/Lackey/Lester
                                                  Felix/Lee
                                                  Halladay/Hamels if he can get it together
                                                  Carpenter/Wainwright
                                                  Lincecum/Cain

                                                  Tough to beat those in a 5 or 7 game series.
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                                                  • Chi_archie
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-22-08
                                                    • 63172

                                                    #26
                                                    last year Boston had 37 starts by guys that were not "1-5" and the yanks had 32


                                                    I think it all evens out
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                                                    • Chi_archie
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-22-08
                                                      • 63172

                                                      #27
                                                      let's keep in mind that Hamels was not even a top 50 pitcher last year
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                                                      • GiveMeaBJ
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 09-08-09
                                                        • 8449

                                                        #28
                                                        Hamels right now is going on a bunch of minor league hype and one good year. How many times have we seen a kid come up be great then a few years he gets figured out and can't get back to his old self.

                                                        Personally, I don't like Hamels. I don't think he is an ace, more of a 3 to me.
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                                                        • tullamore
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 07-17-07
                                                          • 3586

                                                          #29
                                                          I personally have more faith in Happ than Hamels.
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                                                          • philswin
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 04-18-07
                                                            • 1279

                                                            #30
                                                            Hamels has a devastating Changeup and a fastball with a lot of movement needs to develop his 3rd pitch cant be just fastball changeup that is all he ever needed. Throws a curve but needs improvement if he gets there he will be awesome again. Happs number were unbelievable under 3.00 in that stadium not sure if he can maintain that he has been a late bloomer. Blanton is a pretty good 4 starter. Smoltz will probably be signed to compete for the 5th starter with Moyer and Kendrick
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                                                            • philswin
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 04-18-07
                                                              • 1279

                                                              #31
                                                              Happ should have started in playoffs over Pedro. Manager is a moron
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                                                              • pavyracer
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 04-12-07
                                                                • 82897

                                                                #32
                                                                Jurrjens
                                                                Hanson
                                                                Hudson
                                                                Lowe
                                                                Kawakami
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                                                                • keyboarding
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 07-30-09
                                                                  • 6817

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Romero
                                                                  Morrow
                                                                  Marcum
                                                                  McGowan
                                                                  Cecil

                                                                  Richmond
                                                                  Drabek
                                                                  Litsch
                                                                  Janssen
                                                                  Purcey
                                                                  Rzepczynski

                                                                  Mills
                                                                  Tallet
                                                                  Ray

                                                                  Okay... maybe in a couple of years.
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                                                                  • Chi_archie
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 07-22-08
                                                                    • 63172

                                                                    #34
                                                                    wow, lots of varying opinions... half of MLB has been named it seems...... should be interesting to see how things work out by next sept
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                                                                    • cappinthepigs
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 10-07-09
                                                                      • 1864

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Mariners will be tough on their starting rotation.
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