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  • Justin7
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-31-06
    • 8577

    #1
    I just saw a horrible train wreck
    and its name is the Washington Redskins. That has to be the worst trick play I've seen. Move a bunch of linemen, but have them do nothing. Abandon a high-odds FG attempt. Fortunately, when you're down 24, forgetting to kick a FG might cost you perhaps 2% of a game-win.

    On the "idiotic coaching" topic, what about Tennessee not taking timeouts at the end of the game? 56 seconds left, game tied. Miami has the ball on its 4 yard line.

    Miami runs, picks up 4. 2d and 6 from its own 8 yard line. Titans don't call a timeout, and Miami runs the clock out. If Tennessee prevents a first down (this is about a 60% chance if Miami doesn't pass), it will have the ball at about the 45 yard line with 30 second left. If Miami risks a pass, odds of a first down go up, but it will save the Titans a timeout.

    My gut-shot estimate: calling timeouts there gives you about a 20% chance to win in regulation, and a 4% chance to lose in regulation.

    Failure to use timeouts here was a bigger blunder than if Belichek had punted in his controversial game vs Indy (going for it on 4th and 2 from his own 30 gave him a win rate of about 79%, versus 70% for punting).
  • BadNina
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-27-07
    • 10491

    #2
    This game tonight is an embarassment
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    • mmike032
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 09-11-08
      • 8905

      #3
      skins are busch league tonight
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      • jgray
        SBR MVP
        • 09-06-09
        • 3599

        #4
        I thought the fake FG was a perfect punctuation mark on that half.
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        • Rich Boy
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 02-01-09
          • 9714

          #5
          Tough game to watch, even tougher when you have the OVER and the Skins pull some BS fake field goal to screw me out of 3 points.
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          • mr. leisure
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 01-29-08
            • 17507

            #6
            They can`t even make an extra point
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            • dwaechte
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-27-07
              • 5481

              #7
              Originally posted by Justin7
              and its name is the Washington Redskins. That has to be the worst trick play I've seen. Move a bunch of linemen, but have them do nothing. Abandon a high-odds FG attempt. Fortunately, when you're down 24, forgetting to kick a FG might cost you perhaps 2% of a game-win.

              On the "idiotic coaching" topic, what about Tennessee not taking timeouts at the end of the game? 56 seconds left, game tied. Miami has the ball on its 4 yard line.

              Miami runs, picks up 4. 2d and 6 from its own 8 yard line. Titans don't call a timeout, and Miami runs the clock out. If Tennessee prevents a first down (this is about a 60% chance if Miami doesn't pass), it will have the ball at about the 45 yard line with 30 second left. If Miami risks a pass, odds of a first down go up, but it will save the Titans a timeout.

              My gut-shot estimate: calling timeouts there gives you about a 20% chance to win in regulation, and a 4% chance to lose in regulation.

              Failure to use timeouts here was a bigger blunder than if Belichek had punted in his controversial game vs Indy (going for it on 4th and 2 from his own 30 gave him a win rate of about 79%, versus 70% for punting).
              Very surprising and disappointing given Fisher generally seems to be pretty sharp in those situations. No excuse for that.
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              • The Bishop
                SBR Sharp
                • 08-21-09
                • 311

                #8
                Glad I hedged my teasers...
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                • keith5400
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 12-19-09
                  • 10

                  #9
                  It is all very disappointing but somehow I find it very funny too. I don't understand why. :P
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                  • cobra_king
                    SBR MVP
                    • 08-07-06
                    • 2495

                    #10
                    Couldn't understand Fisher's line of thinking on that one at all. Even a Dolphins first down doesn't change anything as they will still run the clock out afterward.
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                    • JetsMatt85
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 12-01-09
                      • 393

                      #11
                      The best part about it was zorny called it the first time when he knew the G-men still had a timeout left. So all Coughlin has to do was call a simple timeout

                      Then they come out and take the field again after the TO, the element of surprise is totally gone, and Zorny calls the exact same play

                      Only an idiot would call a trickplay when the element of surprise/ability to catch your opponent off guard is gone.
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                      • LLXC
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 12-10-06
                        • 8972

                        #12
                        The trick play was stupid because only 1 player that moved to the left actually went down field. The rest stood at the line confused.
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388179

                          #13
                          Most had the Giants
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                          • pico
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 04-05-07
                            • 27321

                            #14
                            squares on the red skins...me included
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