I think it is, I have a friend that said he has done both and the high from betting is stronger and more addicting. I love the feeling of a baseball game 2-2 in the eighth with big money on it ore the feeling when I have 11 games going, secondly a great high actually making the bets. If you bet early the high lasts all day even when the games have not yet started and kicks into high gear at game time and as the night wears on the high starts to wear off culminating at like 1:00AM.
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They're called endorphins.
Little drops of nectar that trickle down our brain.
Who wants honey?
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There's a good sentence about this in a book I just read about gambling called Jackpot Nation.
It refers to a guy who got taken by a tout for his entire retirement savings and is now in prison becasue he took a gun to the guy's office to get his money back.Doug Warner was flat out of dopamine, serotonin—whatever it was that had been triggering episodes of hope, had been modulating his midlife anxiety.
This issue of pleasure and gambling is a live one for me. I know a lot of serious cappers like Ganchrow say it's all in making the right formula and back testing. I'm all about sorting out signal from noise, but I'm not convinced numbers crunching is the best way to do it.
I have a procedure for breaking down boxscores and a regular reading routine for learning about some details and nuances, but then I pull a number out of my head. Since I do it every day for the sport I follow (NBA) it's an on-going feel thing, but how good this feel is is probably somewhat dependent on how much pleasure I'm finding in the whole process. My hypothesis is that too much or too little and the quality of my numbers suffer.
I'm currently going through my NBA results and trying to correlate feel (which I recorded as a number) and win-loss. I haven't learned anything yet.
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Ummmm... K
bookie, I think JJ was just comparing the rush you get from gambling and the rush you get from doing drugs. I don't know what your reply was all about, though it was long.Comment -
LMB...you're right...I just went off on a tangent that was only very vaguely related to JJ's point.Comment -
i did that shit many yrs ago when i was young and stupid
now i'm old and stupid
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I think it is a high, when I have 15K in action I feel I can set the world on fire and no one can touch me, I am more confident socially and sexually. I actually get harder easier when betting. Now the same thing applies to cocaine so that is my point, although the high with betting is definately more powerful and addicting vs coke.Comment -
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Never done cocaine...
A lot of times when I am watching a game where I have action on it I like to pretend I have 2 or 3 really hot girls watching the game with me and they are cheering me on wearing skimmpy outfits and then after the game when I win it the girls say to me, "oh Buddy, can you **** us real hard please."Comment -
The bad side
Unfortunately, that's a part of gambling. You have to be careful and keep your head.Comment -
The higher your high, the lower your low.
Be cool.Comment -
I've done a lot of both in the past. In my experience, the highest high from gambling (having a ridiculous amount of $$ on the line) is a much bigger rush than doing the purest 8-ball of blow.Comment -
There's a lot more similarities than an outsider or novice might think. Gambling depletes seratonin levels as said above and can have extremely strong short and long term affects on mental states and overall health...
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I do not understand what are you talking about here!
In terms of chemistry it is only adrenaline issue for me /which is close to dopamine/, but adrenaline is a stress molecula.
I never get high with bets, I have BPM 220 and sweat often I am getting angry and I am only happy when it is all over. I get high with movement, dance, drugs, sex etc. but with bets???Comment -
I am glad I don't "get off" on gambling. I enjoy action, but the amounts don't have to be very high for me to enjoy.Comment -
they say it ruins more lives than drugs and alcohol combined. i think it's safe to say it's a better high for most.Comment -
It depends. If you're talking about just standard Colombian flake, then yeah, gambling wins, no doubt. But if you're talking about that high society cabello stardust, man, there ain't no cool like that real, real deep cool, I'm talkin about that DEEP deep cool.
But, as everyone should know, and many do, but people just always seem to forget, the best high you can possibly get is the natural high from working out. I'm telling you, you forget about it because all you do is sit on your couch all day, or at your computer, or you go to the movies and sit there, or whatever. And then you're like "damn, I wanna get high!" so you call up your dealer or you log on and drop a dime or two on Chien-Ming Wang, if he's going good, or if not, what the hell, you'll take Federer, or Weber St., anything really. But you forget, if you just go outside and take a jog around the neighborhood, you get an endorphin high, and I'm telling you, that sh*t gets you F**KED UP! Go out for a jog, at least a mile, right, come back, put on some Hendrix, get out a box of Chips Ahoy or whatever, you'll see. You'll think God Himself is shoving those cookies down your throat, while sitting on some multi-colored cloud. I'm telling you, the natural high you get from working out is better than anything else.Comment -
i don't like cocaine but i like the smell -- ive never done cocaine...my buddys tell me gambling is way worse of an addictionComment -
LOL... That's some funny shit Ganchrow HG. Now what have you been smoking?
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gambling is an addiction that u can beat (well at least 2 tenth's of 1% of us)
cocaine you have no shot unless you have unlimited bankroll but that'll eventually catch you i guess
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I would have to rate them this way
1)Herion
2)Action...Sports/and that first time you score with that new chick
3)Coke
However I now stick with just action because 1 and 3 almost killed meComment -
The stardust man, the star...DUST! Cabello, baby. Everything cool baby, everything COO'! Ain't nothing like it man, that deep deep cool. What goes up must come down, so of course, you got to GET high if you want to get down. That Colombian flake, that stuff makes me laugh. All those lawyers and bankers, man, whatever, let em have their little kids' parties with their nose candy. But if you really want to get down, I mean down deep in the groove, man, there's nothing like the real stardust, the real sh*t.
But of course, as i said, working out beats it all, so if you can take a jog somewhere, you don't need anything else. I would only recommend seriously hunting down the Cabello if you're wheelchair-bound, and can't do anything active at all.Comment -
It sounds like you are on it right now...Comment -
No! I've actually just been out jogging and doing a few push ups, that's what I keep trying to tell everyone! The endorphins - the endorphin high gets you SERIOUSLY F**KED UP! It's great, I'm telling you, just do some pushups or run around the block or whatever, you'll see. You read what I wrote and you assumed I must have taken some crazy whacked out sh*t, but no, I just worked out a little bit and got a load of endorphins running around in my brain.Comment -
I have felt that gambling high in a casino playing some Poker but the best gambling high is when you mix it up with some alchohol.
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