the greek is not that all cracked up to be

michael777 · 06-03-07, 08:26 PM

here is what they did to me yesterday,i like the book but do not think this is right: Dear Customer.

The wagers taken on the basketball halftime was deleted due to an error. The lines on WNBA halftime was mistakenly posted as NBA halftime.

The Greek Sportsbook reserves the right to refuse or limit any wager. This may include, but not limited to past-posted plays, obvious line errors, or exceeded bet limit amounts.

We do apologize for the inconvenience caused.

Have a good evening.

Kind regards,
i bet a wnba halftime line,the line was correct,they cancelled the play saying it was listed under nba not wnba

spliff · 06-03-07, 08:32 PM

don't they deal 20 cent lines?

I stopped playing there when they started requiring all players requesting a wd to have their ID on file.

pico · 06-03-07, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by michael777

here is what they did to me yesterday,i like the book but do not think this is right: Dear Customer.

The wagers taken on the basketball halftime was deleted due to an error. The lines on WNBA halftime was mistakenly posted as NBA halftime.

The Greek Sportsbook reserves the right to refuse or limit any wager. This may include, but not limited to past-posted plays, obvious line errors, or exceeded bet limit amounts.

We do apologize for the inconvenience caused.

Have a good evening.

Kind regards,
i bet a wnba halftime line,the line was correct,they cancelled the play saying it was listed under nba not wnba

this kind of shit makes me want to transfer all my balance to pinnacle.

come on, we're talking about wnba and ncaa baseball...it is not like the games are somewhere in the middle east and you have no idea the player's camel got shot by the helicopter.

spliff · 06-03-07, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by michael777

here is what they did to me yesterday,i like the book but do not think this is right: Dear Customer.

The wagers taken on the basketball halftime was deleted due to an error. The lines on WNBA halftime was mistakenly posted as NBA halftime.

The Greek Sportsbook reserves the right to refuse or limit any wager. This may include, but not limited to past-posted plays, obvious line errors, or exceeded bet limit amounts.

We do apologize for the inconvenience caused.

Have a good evening.

Kind regards,
i bet a wnba halftime line,the line was correct,they cancelled the play saying it was listed under nba not wnba

what in the ****???
when did they cancel, before the 2nd half started I hope.

pico · 06-03-07, 08:42 PM

i bet they cancelled when they found out his bet is gonna win

just when s carolina scored 2 runs on the top of the first inning, then they cancelled it.

michael777 · 06-03-07, 08:46 PM

right around the start of the second half,maybe a little after,when i saw the email,i checked the score and it looked like my bet was a loser,of course they came back and covered by 1 point,i do not think they tried to cheat me,but i do think it is getting ridiculous that books seem to think that they can bend any rules in their favor,i clicked basketball,then saturday,then made my play,no way could i have seen that it was listed under nba and not wnba

acw · 06-03-07, 09:02 PM

John,

Do not tell me that I did not warn you!

pico · 06-03-07, 09:27 PM

in vegas if you got the ticket, even if the line was wrong, you can still cash it if you won.

spliff · 06-03-07, 09:30 PM

that's still messed up, Michael. Imagine if you hadn't seen the email until the game was over and you thought you had yourself a winner!

pico · 06-03-07, 09:48 PM

i guess the only safe thing to do is to check the line that you want to bet on pinnacle first. if the two lines are too far apart or the greek's starting time is not the same or after the pinnacle starting time, then you know something is wrong.

the greek is pretty good financially, but their line managers are that much better than those D+ books. never had any problem with pinnacle with their lines.

RickySteve · 06-03-07, 10:31 PM

You don't expect help from SBR, do you?

isetcap · 06-03-07, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by RickySteve

You don't expect help from SBR, do you?

Sounds like Pico might have been past-posting but Michael's cancellation is indeed surprising. I would hope that SBR would welcome the opportunity to investigate the validity of this claim.

If Pico can prove his ticket was in before the start of the game then his situation should also receive attention.

20Four7 · 06-04-07, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by picoman

i guess the only safe thing to do is to check the line that you want to bet on pinnacle first. if the two lines are too far apart or the greek's starting time is not the same or after the pinnacle starting time, then you know something is wrong.

the greek is pretty good financially, but their line managers are that much better than those D+ books. never had any problem with pinnacle with their lines.

You won't have trouble with Pinny and their lines. I don't have a greek account but I know some eurobooks post an end wager time not a starting time. For some events in the US there stop betting time can be half hour or so before game time. Tennis can be even more confusing since outside of the first match there is no "starting time". I"ve seen 3 different books all have different cut off times for the same tennis match.

pico · 06-04-07, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by isetcap

Sounds like Pico might have been past-posting but Michael's cancellation is indeed surprising. I would hope that SBR would welcome the opportunity to investigate the validity of this claim.

If Pico can prove his ticket was in before the start of the game then his situation should also receive attention.

dude, here is the email again:

Dear Customer,

The college baseball game South Carolina vs. Charlotte was schedule for 3:45PM but was accidentally posted for 4:00PM.

The Greek Sportsbook reserves the right to refuse or limit any wager. This may include, but not limited to past-posted plays, obvious line errors, or exceeded bet limit amounts.

Sorry for any inconvenience.

Kind regards
Deneshia

according to their email, the line should be off around 3:45pm, but they mistakenly set the start time of the 4:00pm. how would i know the real start time of a ncaa baseball game? it is not like i bet it everyday. to answer your question, technically, you can call my bet post betting, but think about it, is it really post betting? if i am a sportbook and have a line for a game that is not on espn.com and i mistakenly put the cut off time 15 minutes later than it should, would you notice it? i didn't just took that game, i also took another ncaa baseball game also and that wager was graded. Because when i was making the wager, there were bunch of ncaa baseball games all start around 4pm (cst), how would i know s. carolina game is suppose to start 15 minutes earlier than the other games? besides, even if i check the pinnacle starting time before i make the greek wager, it wouldn't matter because for smaller events, the greek sometimes has cut off time earlier than pinnacle...sometimes up to an hour earlier.

pico · 06-04-07, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by RickySteve

You don't expect help from SBR, do you?

i like to, but do i have a case? i don't have the screen shot of the betting screen when i place the wager, and they took off everything that is related to my cancelled wager from my account page as if i never placed the wager.

with pinnacle, even when they cancel the wager (not because of post betting, becuase pinnacle's software system is close to perfect), it'll still show up on the account review page.

jjgold · 06-04-07, 11:23 AM

pico call and ask for the owner, I heard he accepts calls from anyone, you have nothing to lose.

crackerjack · 06-04-07, 11:32 AM

Pico, no one is accusing you of doing anything wrong. I think isecap was just stating that you probably wouldn't win a debate. I think mistakes like this should be graded in the favor of the bettor, but an online book like the greek, which posts hundreds of lines on all sorts of things, should be able to cover itself if a major error was made by linesmakers...

abacus30 · 06-04-07, 08:42 PM

Based on the info provided, definitely appears these guys got screwed over.

pico · 06-04-07, 08:47 PM

Originally posted by abacus30

Based on the info provided, definitely appears these guys got screwed over.

yep...hard to find a perfect sportsbook like pinnacle. my firend got screwed from 5dimes couple of times with the "wrong line" excuse. i just laughed at him and told him to switch over to the greek. i guess the joke is on me now.

pico · 06-06-07, 10:39 AM

the greek is not that great

bet up to the limit, wait for the line change then you can bet again. seems nice, but what if the greek does not change the line? you're pretty much limited.

after using the greek for 2 months, i have to say, i am pretty disappointed (not to mention they cancelled one of my winning wagers). going back to pinnacle from now on.

btw, their phoneline is always busy when you're rushing for time.

spliff · 06-06-07, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by picoman

bet up to the limit, wait for the line change then you can bet again. seems nice, but what if the greek does not change the line? you're pretty much limited.

after using the greek for 2 months, i have to say, i am pretty disappointed (not to mention they cancelled one of my winning wagers). going back to pinnacle from now on.

btw, their phoneline is always busy when you're rushing for time.

I agree. While they are financially solid and offer a wide variety of betting options, they are about the 7th-8th option on the list of books I deposit at.

pico · 06-06-07, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by spliff

I agree. While they are financially solid and offer a wide variety of betting options, they are about the 7th-8th option on the list of books I deposit at.

what is your 1-6th? i assume pinnacle is #1

Bill Dozer · 06-06-07, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by picoman

dude, here is the email again:

Dear Customer,

The college baseball game South Carolina vs. Charlotte was schedule for 3:45PM but was accidentally posted for 4:00PM.

The Greek Sportsbook reserves the right to refuse or limit any wager. This may include, but not limited to past-posted plays, obvious line errors, or exceeded bet limit amounts.

Sorry for any inconvenience.

Kind regards
Deneshia

according to their email, the line should be off around 3:45pm, but they mistakenly set the start time of the 4:00pm. how would i know the real start time of a ncaa baseball game? it is not like i bet it everyday. to answer your question, technically, you can call my bet post betting, but think about it, is it really post betting? if i am a sportbook and have a line for a game that is not on espn.com and i mistakenly put the cut off time 15 minutes later than it should, would you notice it? i didn't just took that game, i also took another ncaa baseball game also and that wager was graded. Because when i was making the wager, there were bunch of ncaa baseball games all start around 4pm (cst), how would i know s. carolina game is suppose to start 15 minutes earlier than the other games? besides, even if i check the pinnacle starting time before i make the greek wager, it wouldn't matter because for smaller events, the greek sometimes has cut off time earlier than pinnacle...sometimes up to an hour earlier.

The book is always at least partly responsible for leaving the game up too long and it's usually impossible to determine for sure if the player knew the game started. They have to cancel these or choose to honor them when the players bet it at a time when the game is in their favor. If your team was down by 5 runs, would you want it to stick? The bottom line question has to be, was the player's funds at risk?

spliff · 06-06-07, 10:10 PM

In no particular order- Matchbook, BetJam, The Pig/Legendz, WSEX, 5Dimes, even USDBet(I can't seem to find out why they are rated so poorly here, but I have enjoyed my time there).