What's with the trend of shitty QB's at elite schools?

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  • No coincidences
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-18-10
    • 76300

    #1
    What's with the trend of shitty QB's at elite schools?
    First it was that Gilbert kid at Texas. I watched Driskel and Wittek completely roll over and die today for Florida and USC. These guys are awful.

    What gives lately? Why are these kids so highly-rated coming out of high school, yet so awful at the collegiate level?
  • crustyme
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-29-10
    • 16896

    #2
    same reason why so many successful college qbs suck in the nfl.
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    • seaborneq
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 09-08-06
      • 22556

      #3
      7 on 7 drills are killing the real game. No defense is on the field worth its salt only plays with 7 players. There are 11 bodies out there for real games and that makes a big difference
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      • TPowell
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 02-21-08
        • 18842

        #4
        QB's are soft these days. Care too much about running and not enough about throwing (Driskel)
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        • Deuce
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 01-12-08
          • 29843

          #5
          Elite QBs never pan out in the NFL.

          Ponder
          Henne
          Tebow
          Leinert
          Young
          Palmer
          Leaf
          Grossman
          Etc
          Etc
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          • ChiLLx
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 12-24-11
            • 5412

            #6
            Originally posted by No coincidences
            First it was that Gilbert kid at Texas. I watched Driskel and Wittek completely roll over and die today for Florida and USC. These guys are awful.

            What gives lately? Why are these kids so highly-rated coming out of high school, yet so awful at the collegiate level?
            Look who the head coaches are at each of the schools you just named and your question will be answered
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            • Darkside Magick
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 05-28-10
              • 12638

              #7
              Originally posted by ChiLLx
              Look who the head coaches are at each of the schools you just named and your question will be answered
              This.

              Florida play calling was horrible against miami
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              • Brock Landers
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 06-30-08
                • 45359

                #8
                Originally posted by Deuce
                Elite QBs never pan out in the NFL.

                Ponder
                Henne
                Tebow
                Leinert
                Young
                Palmer
                Leaf
                Grossman
                Etc
                Etc
                Manning
                Rogers
                Brees
                Rothlisberger
                Stafford
                Luck

                ETC
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                • suicidekings
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 03-23-09
                  • 9962

                  #9
                  Because so many of them recruit for the physical attributes first (tall, strong arm, etc) thinking they can turn them into productive QBs. But so many of them just don't have the mental aspect to be an elite QB. Driskel is a perfect example of this kind of guy, while Russell Wilson is a perfect example of a guy the top tier schools would never touch because he fails in the base metrics. There's just not that many guys out there that have the mental side of it as an 18 year old, and at that point it's REALLY tough to know exactly what you've got, and in an extremely competitive recruiting environment, they tend to play the numbers game and hope it works out. Archaic recruiting strategy.

                  FSU did it right with Winston. Stanford just signed Keller Chryst, who I'm really big on.
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                  • Deuce
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                    • 01-12-08
                    • 29843

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Brock Landers
                    Manning
                    Rogers
                    Brees
                    Rothlisberger
                    Stafford
                    Luck

                    ETC
                    Miami of Ohio and Cal are elite schools? Purdue?
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                    • Brock Landers
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 06-30-08
                      • 45359

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Deuce
                      Miami of Ohio and Cal are elite schools? Purdue?
                      they were Elite QB's in college

                      Where as Tom Brady was not
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                      • suicidekings
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 03-23-09
                        • 9962

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Brock Landers
                        they were Elite QB's in college

                        Where as Tom Brady was not
                        The whole point of the thread was that elite schools should be able to recruit elite QB talent... but rarely do.
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                        • TPowell
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-21-08
                          • 18842

                          #13
                          Originally posted by suicidekings
                          Because so many of them recruit for the physical attributes first (tall, strong arm, etc) thinking they can turn them into productive QBs. But so many of them just don't have the mental aspect to be an elite QB. Driskel is a perfect example of this kind of guy, while Russell Wilson is a perfect example of a guy the top tier schools would never touch because he fails in the base metrics. There's just not that many guys out there that have the mental side of it as an 18 year old, and at that point it's REALLY tough to know exactly what you've got, and in an extremely competitive recruiting environment, they tend to play the numbers game and hope it works out. Archaic recruiting strategy.

                          FSU did it right with Winston. Stanford just signed Keller Chryst, who I'm really big on.

                          bingo. You don't have to be 6'4 to be a great college QB. Plenty of very solid 6'0 QB's who can do it all that don't get looked at because of height
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                          • teaserpleaser
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                            • 08-14-08
                            • 26015

                            #14
                            Gilbert is a mental midget has all the tools was all world coming out of high school hes just doesn't have it upstairs and his confidence was shot at Texas he was projected to be a first round pick I think Mel kiper said after that Bama national title game the future of Texas football kid was a joke. Same with Driskel hes a mental midget USCs quarterbacks were high school studs they just look like they cant play have terrible decision making. Jamies Winston and teddy bridgewater have the goods That Winston kid looks like hes going to have a hell of a career a Heisman possibly a few NCs because if you look at the way Florida St is recruiting That defense that looks average at best is going to get back to florida st level sooner than later they lost a penetrate ton of guys to the NFL.
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                            • teaserpleaser
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                              • 08-14-08
                              • 26015

                              #15
                              Its okay to whiff on a highly touted QB but how do you miss on Two like USC is doing? Southern California has soo many high schools and you're usc how the hell do you not have a stud QB and UCLA and Fresno ST do cal has a freshman that's better than usc qbs. Same thing with Texas when they were struggling TCU had paschal it was clear hes better than anything Texas had on their roster somebodys being lazy in recruiting or arrogant but its costing them.
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                              • Big Bear
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 11-01-11
                                • 43253

                                #16
                                Originally posted by No coincidences
                                First it was that Gilbert kid at Texas. I watched Driskel and Wittek completely roll over and die today for Florida and USC. These guys are awful.

                                What gives lately? Why are these kids so highly-rated coming out of high school, yet so awful at the collegiate level?
                                I think we are seeing a good amount of parity this season.
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                                • agharah1
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-07-10
                                  • 2304

                                  #17
                                  A lot of these schools run read-option type systems that don't require a QB to be smart enough to read the defense or time routes. All you do is stand behind your NFL-Caliber offensive line and wait for your NFL-caliber WRs to get open. When you have a team that can just out-talent people you don't really have to know anything. Then you get into the combine and since the NFL is so fundamentally different from most spread-option read option college teams nowadays they have to go on physical traits and just try to bring them along. Every now and then you'll have a kid like Luck who has all the tools can make all the throws and plays in a pro-set offense and has actually had to lead his team to wins at the college level.
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