Beware Of Bet Royal

**Truthteller** · 11-22-05, 07:16 PM

What a surprise. Another slow pay from this stiff book. Sota, if/when you get your payout from these people, don't ever send a cent to them again. This book is owned by Tej Kohli, currently the biggest thief offshore.

Good luck in getting your funds!

**bigboydan** · 11-22-05, 07:18 PM

let me first welcome you to SBRforum sota.

theres been alot of bad issues with this book in the past. i hope bill can help you out and get your money. dealing with royal on these types of complaints is never an easy task. so, just hang in there and see what bill can do for you bro.

**jumper** · 11-22-05, 07:25 PM

bill,please add me to the list.royal owes me $22239.was told today the payment processor wasnt working.my hope is that with time ill get out but alot of scary news recently

**Truthteller** · 11-22-05, 07:28 PM

Payment processor not working? That's a new one.

I bet if you tried to deposit, the payment processor will work.

Don't play back the money. With luck from SBR, you will get your funds out.

**bigboydan** · 11-22-05, 07:32 PM

have you heard one like this one TT...

i was talking to somebody in IRC one night. and, he told me he was stiffed by royal for $30,000. the excuse they used on him was that. sense he was a U.S. citezen, it be illegal for royal to pay him his money. so, he accepted a third of his balance and end his relationship with royal.

**Truthteller** · 11-22-05, 07:36 PM

That's sickening BB. That excuse I have never heard before. Maybe, you can have these guys post at the site where the owner says Royal is a stand up company. Oh, i forgot, he will delete or distort it like he did our posts with Betus.

**jumper** · 11-22-05, 07:38 PM

unfortunate,especially since i,m informed i,m one of their favorite clients and have had a great relationship with them in the past,of course they never owed me this much but did pay me 13000 in september,slowly.they have paid me down from 34000 to current balance of 22239,and im told i will be paid,so i dont want to burn bridge or scare away new depositors,but with payout like this royal can only expect to attract small,bonus based deposits-not large players.if money is tight they should tell everyone only 1 withdraw per month,max 2500 or something like that

**bigboydan** · 11-22-05, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by Truthteller

That's sickening BB. That excuse I have never heard before. Maybe, you can have these guys post at the site where the owner says Royal is a stand up company. Oh, i forgot, he will delete or distort it like he did our posts with Betus.

TT, this guy never heard of these types of forums before. so, he didn't know any better at all. but, i advised him to check SBR's rating next time he's looking for a book.

**jumper** · 11-22-05, 07:55 PM

checking sbr ratings before bonus hunting has helped me avoid companies like betgateway.i told rich coast when they first opened that i couldnt play there without a sbr rating,and nelson emailed me when he had one about a month later,now they are one of my favorite books.this is a tricks business,and i try to keep balances that will not kill me if stolen.i entered into a special deal with royal that resulted in the balance growing so high-big mistake,only hope richard honors our relationship

**jumper** · 11-22-05, 08:17 PM

i need to enlighten everyone about my fears with bet royal.these concerns are mostly created by reading negative things at the forums,which,when the balances are large,can cause lack of sleep,etc...richard just called me after reading my last post and reminded me that royal has paid me over $32000 since last june and promised that i will be paid.i accept their payout policies of 2 per week and feel this is fair given the extra generous bonuses they offer.i have always been paid by royal and appreciate richards timely response to this latest concern brought on by this topic.there may be some slow pay issues,ownership concerns,etc...but the customer service ive received by jeff and richard,insights into steam plays,gifts,special deposit deals,etc...stand out as real to me and it is hard to tell where all the hate for betroyal comes from.in conclusion,thanks to richard for the phone call relaxing my fears and let it be known that i have no complaints

**Truthteller** · 11-22-05, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by jumper

it is hard to tell where all the hate for betroyal comes from...

the excuse they used on him was that. since he was a U.S. citezen, it be illegal for royal to pay him his money.

And you wonder why Royal isn't liked much around these forums?

**tacomax** · 11-22-05, 08:31 PM

Betroyal must be a good book - jjgold has upgraded them to a B-. The same rating as 5dimes.

AK · 11-22-05, 08:45 PM

RichCoast is up there with the best.

People that are owed from Royal Sports.

Please contact admin@offshoregamblersdigest.com and admin@majorwager.com

You might be qualifed with there insurance if they dont pay you.

**BAUS** · 11-22-05, 08:58 PM

Jumper, what was the special deal you had with Richard?

BAUS

**Illusion** · 11-22-05, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by tacomax

Betroyal must be a good book - jjgold has upgraded them to a B-. The same rating as 5dimes.

$$$$$ will change anybodies opinion about a book.

**SBR_John** · 11-23-05, 12:49 AM

There were grumblings through the grapevine that Royal would enter their 5th slow pay period in the past 2 years. Roberto reported that Tej was terribly mad at the mounting losses and only new deposits would be used for withdraw requests. Lets hope these are isolated. the whole tej/royal/slow pay thing is well known and does not seem very news worthy.

**pags11** · 11-23-05, 04:09 AM

this is too bad...I've heard a lot of these types of complaints about bet royal...

**raiders72001** · 11-23-05, 12:17 PM

I feel bad for Jumper as I believe him but every scammer is coming out of the wood work crying that Royal is scamming them because of the bad press that Royal is receiving as of late.

You have David1 that claimed he Royal deducted 20k from his account from bets that he never made. The RX was all over Royal.

Royal produced a tape which showed that David1 had made the bets. The RX came back and said that the tapes were altered. Fortunately on the tape David1 made a reference to something that had only occured that day which proved that the tapes were not altered.

The RX and others that were on Royal retracted their statements. There's always to sides to every story.

**Quarm** · 11-23-05, 01:09 PM

Royal is a shit book now - end of the story. Playing there is asking for trouble, dont listen to people that tell you otherwise.

**Sota30** · 11-23-05, 04:08 PM

What is RX? Has any former or current Bet Royal bettors ener NOT got paid at all? I have requested a withdrawl of nearly $19,000... $9,000 Bank Wire and $9,999 via check, they have already debited the funds from my account and telling me that I should expect my funds to be wired into my account next Thursday, does that seem normal, I just don't understand why it would take so long for a bank wire?? And they said I should expect 7 BUSINESS days for my Fed Ex delivery for my check, so supposedly next Friday according to their information. Plus, they can not give me a tracking number until 24 hours before I receive my money??? I have dealt with a manager named George, who gave me this information. Would appreciate any information or advice as to whether or not they are still feeding more stalling tactics or if this normal.

**pags11** · 11-23-05, 04:17 PM

yeah, these guys should definitely be shut down...unbelievable...

**Illusion** · 11-23-05, 04:41 PM

SBR Bill Dozer reports: Royal Sports (SBR rating D-) stalling, hoping to avoid $18,000 payout? The player was initially told his $9,000 bank wire request was processed four weeks ago, yet his account balance was never debited. One week after the initial request the bettor asked for an additional payout of $9,000 to a different checking account. Three weeks after Royal confirmed that both withdrawals were cleared to be processed, customer service tells the client that they do not have any record of his withdrawal requests. The account balanace exceeds $22,000.

Players who are being slow-paid should not continue to wager with their sportsbook. Continuing to play encourages the book to deny payment, hoping that the stress and inability to bet elsewhere will cause the bettor to lose his funds.

**raiders72001** · 11-23-05, 04:54 PM

Has any former or current Bet Royal bettors ener NOT got paid at all? I have requested a withdrawl of nearly $19,000... $9,000 Bank Wire and $9,999 via check, they have already debited the funds from my account and telling me that I should expect my funds to be wired into my account next Thursday, does that seem normal,

I don't know of anyone that hasn't been paid by Royal. John has reported that there has been one person.

I think that the max withdrawal per week is 10k which is most likely why you didn't receive your full balance.

**TOW** · 11-23-05, 06:27 PM

Raiders,

The 10K max w/d per week is a urban legend, nowhere to be found on their web site.

George is part of the "crisis team". Has been with Tej since way before Royal. When problems become non manageable by normal cs clerks or Richard they escalate to George, Kevin, Amit (in the precise order).

**Bill Dozer** · 11-23-05, 07:51 PM

It sounds like they were playing another game of stall ball, hoping Sota would continue to put his balance at risk. It doesn't look like the beginning of the next drought.

Sota,
Keep us posted after the weekend.

**Brick Tamland** · 11-24-05, 12:11 AM

Its like everyone from the forums knows all about these guys but the people who get facked find the forums because of them. They probably steal from the gamblers who call to set up there ac****s.

With that said...I would play there for a 100% bonus but make sure they knew I posted here. 50% would be tough decision. Its like buyin a hooker. You know its dangerous but some times you just need a little bonus. Sometimes you catch something hopefully it wont kill ya.

**raiders72001** · 11-24-05, 12:40 AM

I would play there for a 100% bonus but make sure they knew I posted here.

That would sure put a scare into them. Books don't take to kindly to these stupid threats.

**Brick Tamland** · 11-24-05, 12:42 AM

I probably wouldnt volunteer my posting name genius.

**raiders72001** · 11-24-05, 12:56 AM

Here's how you do it. First do not threaten the book with going to the forums. If you do it before your deposit no one really cares and if they do it just pisses them off. If you have a problem you try to work it out yourself with the book. If that doesn't work you go to Dozer. If you still aren't satisfied you go to the forums.

**pags11** · 11-24-05, 04:17 AM

why do this books even try to operate if they have no intention of ever paying?...especially with the larger players...it's the perfect scam in their mind I guess...

**Sota30** · 11-24-05, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by raiders72001

Here's how you do it. First do not threaten the book with going to the forums. If you do it before your deposit no one really cares and if they do it just pisses them off. If you have a problem you try to work it out yourself with the book. If that doesn't work you go to Dozer. If you still aren't satisfied you go to the forums.

This is exactly the process I have taken Raider, I DID try working it out with Bet Royal... for over 4 weeks of calling daily and trying to cooperate with their road blocks and jump through their hoops, and when they still wouldn't pay, I found out about SBR and have contacted them. SBR has been very helpful, and now my money had been debitied from my sportsbook account, now we'll see if Bet Royal will hold true to their manager's word, George, as well as what is printed on their web site about delivery time of their pay outs. I have a bank wire that was processed on Tuesday, which they say will be in my bank account NEXT Thursday, and a Fed Ex Cashier's Check that would take 5-7 BUSINESS days, making next Friday the 7th business day. They refuse to give me a tracking number for the Fed Ex package until next week??? But now they are on the clock, and if they do what they say they are going to do, and give me what I have won, I will have no problem making people aware that I received ALL of my money, but if they continue to stall I will be a thorn in their side on every possible forum & web site I can find. I just think it is very unfair for a lot of us who wager fairly large amounts of money and generate a good amount of money for these places, just to have them slow pay us in hopes of us losing our bank roll. However, all they would have to do is pay me my money by the time that THEY have told me and we will have no problems.

**Kane** · 11-24-05, 01:50 PM

Hi everyone!

Well, I'm here because of Bet Royal. To be fair , I got my money (over $4k) , but only after what seemed a blimmin long two weeks, and after mentioning sportsbookreview after the first week.

I wouldnt use them again, whatever the bonus. Its not worth the stress if you need a withdrawal. There's plenty of opportunities for me to bet with companies that payout nicely and quickly, without having to call them repeatedly and get promises you are never sure to believe.

Anyway, thats my thoughts, and its nice to meet you all.

Kane

**Sota30** · 11-24-05, 02:30 PM

Hi Kane, just wondering who you dealt with at Bet Royal? I am glad to hear that you did eventually receive your money, did you get via bank wire or check? Thanks for your post.
Sota

**raiders72001** · 11-24-05, 02:31 PM

Sota- You are going about this in the right way. I truely hope that you get paid and I'm glad that Kane got his money.