Should Notre Dame decline any BOWL Bid ?

[goblue12]

If even all of the above happened as described by goblue12----the International Bowl can still extend ND an invite because of their Big East tie in.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_eligibility

Occasionally there will be more bowl eligible teams than there are spots in the NCAA football bowl games in the season. In these cases, some bowl eligible teams will not be invited to play in any NCAA football bowl game. Typically, teams with seven or more wins will not be left out of bowl games, although many seasons, most recently 2007, see at least one such team uninvited. One of the main rules regarding bowl eligibility, NCAA Division I Bylaw 30.9.2.1, has several provisions that attempt to ensure that teams with seven wins will receive preference for bowl bids:[4]

• Bowl games that have a contract with a conference must select a team with at least seven wins if one is available.
• Any bowl berths that become eligible when a conference fails to meet its contracted tie-ins must first be filled by any eligible 7-win teams before any remaining FBS 6–6 teams can be accommodated.
• Additionally, conferences are not allowed to sign contingency agreements with bowl games that would allow 6–6 teams from their conferences to receive bowl berths at the expense of any potential team with seven or more wins. While this does not prevent conferences from signing contingency agreements that are triggered when a second conference is unable to provide enough eligible teams to fill all of its contracted berths, it does not allow a 6–6 team from the contingency conference access to a bowl game over a 7-win team from a third conference.

[tripp]

i dont understand how anyone could possibly say yes they should turn it down.

What is the positive to turning down the bowl game? they get to end their season earlier? for some of these kids it will be the last football game they ever play outside of pickup games at the park..who cares who it is against you give them the chance to play one more time.

You also are turning down money for the program, exposure for your players, and extra practices/another game to improve your team and get a last look at key areas to improve for next season. Also possibly gives the new HC a chance to work with the players if Weis doesn't coach the bowl game and the new guy does.

No reason to ever turn it down. To imply that is the better option is silly.

[Regul8er]

Why would you turn a bowl bid down??? There are seniors on this team that will never play another game of organized football in their life. The teammates, coaching staff and University I feel would be obligated to play for these guys.

[BigdaddyQH]

First, Hawaii has to beat Wisconsin to become bowl eligable, and that will not happen. But back to the major point. If Notre Dame refuses a bowl bid, they will be labeled as either a bunch of stuck up snobs, or a team that is afraid that it would get it's tail kicked by a MAC team. If the players are too chicken to accept a bowl game, they deserve to have their tails rapped around their shoulders. Clausen already got his clock cleaned out at a bar. If Notre Dame is too cowardly to play in a Bowl game, all the players deserve that type of treatment.

One more thing. The A.D. is the person who will determine of the Irish play in a bowl game or not. The players vote is just a chance for them to sound off. It looks as if what I suspected is true. According to those famous "unpublished sources", the players may have voted to avoid another tail kicking at the hand of a MAC team. What a bunch of cowards.

[MartinBlank]

Swarbrick has just said Notre Dame will accept a bowl invitation.

Rob Ianello will continue with prep for the game until the new coach is announced.

[THE PROFIT]

Weiss should have been able to coach the bowl game

[BigdaddyQH]

Good for Notre Dame. They will most likely go to the GMAC Bowl to play either Central Michigan or Ohio. That seems to be pretty much set. They probably will have a new HC by then, and this will be a good opportunity for that person to see the team and what has to be done to rebuild it.

[Sam Odom]

SOUTH BEND, Ind. (AP)—The Notre Dame football season is officially over.

Athletic director Jack Swarbrick announced Friday that the school has decided against going to a bowl game with a 6-6 record, citing “unique circumstances.” He didn’t elaborate...

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-notredame-bowl&prov=ap&type=lgns

[BigdaddyQH]

"Unique circumstanes" huh. Like losing to a MAC school? Like the majority of the players not thinking that it is worth spending their vacation practicing? What a disgrase. Notre Dame should kick every player who voted to pass on a bowl game off of the team. Like I have said before, if I am going after a kid that is considering Notre Dame, I use this as an example of just how much the majority of players on this team really care about playing football. The word "Quitters" certainly has to dome to mind. These players think so much of their teammates that they vote not to give Clausen another chance to show his talents to NFL scouts. I wonder if these guys know what the term "fellow teammate" really means.

[Sam Odom]

BigD , this season was a Nightmare , they just wanted it to end.

[RiverRaid]

Good choice, a stupid bowl win would be nothing to them at this point.

[BigdaddyQH]

Quitters is what they are. There is no excuse for them. So it was a lousy season. Get used to it. Next year will be worse. No Clausen. No Tate. No offensive line. Half of the defense (not that they had one this year) gone. New HC. And a team that would rather run and hide instead of play the game. What will their excuse be next year?

[Raymond Babbitt]

I don't know who they think they are. They are a second class program. They shouldn't be declining any bowl bids.

[LVHerbie]

wow... This really surprises me... No extra practices (that they clearly could use) and give the seniors a swift kick out the door...

[moodyt2]

no that would be stupid... i hate notre dame. JOIN A CONFERENCE

[HoldEmHook!!]

They should have to Play the NBC bowl against themselves. Then they could win for sure. and NBC would get to promote the shitty team they signed to a TV contract. And the faihfull irish following would ride high, hell they would win so convincingly they would self promote themselves to national champs and Clausen would get the Heisman for scoring 1000 points against a horrible Irish defense....

[ClydeFontaine]

No reason for players to get hurt. Gives a smaller school like a Sun Belt squad an opportunity they will no doubt cherish.

[SHADYLANKY]

Notre Dame Quitin Irish LOL They want special treatment to be in the BCS but don't want to help other smaller bowls. I know the school doesn't need a $750K to $1M small bowl fee, but the kids should want to practice and get better. Clausen the and The Cry Babies. Seniors just want to forget they were failures.

[DELTA KING]

ESPN reported last night that Notre Dame's AD said they were not going to a bowl game. That is also posted on Yahoo Sports.

[MTek]

no that would be stupid... i hate notre dame. JOIN A CONFERENCE

Why would they join a conference, they write their own ticket?
Look what "conference play" has done for Alabama.....top 5 ranking every year only to have their asses handed to them in the SEC championship game....ughhh...its gotta hurt

[rm18]

Notre Dame 35 Nevada 0

[droc]

Why so much hate for ND?

[tblues2005]

This is sad for some of their players that want to go to the pro level. I know that will hurt some of their stock to go into the pro level. If the players did vote not to go to a bowl game then shame on them. If it was their AD then I have a big problem with him not considering that they will not play in the post season. It is like a pro team refusing to take a wild card berth just because they have a 9-7 or a 8-8 record. I think it is terrible for those players that do not get to play in a bowl game for the last time. What a year to qualify and then not be able to go.

[floridagolfer]

Maybe if 20 more teams followed Notre Dame's lead, we'd have bowl games for what they really are intended to be: a reward for a very good season. There's no 6-6 team that's ever deserved to go to a bowl, and there never will be. No one cares that the seniors on the team don't get a chance to go play another meaningless game.

[BigdaddyQH]

Maybe if 20 more teams followed Notre Dame's lead, we'd have bowl games for what they really are intended to be: a reward for a very good season. There's no 6-6 team that's ever deserved to go to a bowl, and there never will be. No one cares that the seniors on the team don't get a chance to go play another meaningless game.

That is on the networks who insist on paying out the money to televise these games. Some of these bowl games do not draw 30,000 fans. If the networks stopped televising those worthless games, they would go away. You can easily eliminate 6 bowl games and lose nothing. I think a team should have to win 7 FBS games to be eligable for a bowl. These teams that go 6-6, with an FCS win, should not be plaing in bowl games. I could easily live without the New Mexico, St. Petersburg, New Orleans, Pointsettia, Eagle Bank, Motor City, and GMAC Bowls.