Spurs vs Utah

SBR_John · 05-20-07, 08:13 AM

No.

The Jazz have a nice team. I was all on them even down 2-0 to Houston. Excellent coaching and excellent at home. To me this is one of those series where the favorite could get lazy and drop a couple of away games. Still, Spurs in an easy win even if it goes 6.

DrunkenLullaby · 05-20-07, 08:19 AM

Most certainly they can. It will require Kirilenko being the presence he was against GS and not the invisible man he was for the 1st 89 games. Also, Ginobili & Finley will have to be human. Williams can play Parker to a wash and Utah's front line can certainly contend with, if not outperform, Duncan.

As always, officiating will play a large role. Utah plays a very physical style, San Antonio does not.

Razz · 05-20-07, 12:51 PM

The Jazz will win this series in 6 games, starting with an outright win this afternoon.

EaglesPhan36 · 05-20-07, 12:56 PM

I like the Jazz and the pts today, but think the Spurs win the series in 6.

BigBollocks · 05-20-07, 12:59 PM

I think Razz may well be correct. I really like Utah today, and can't believe how many people are playing the Spurs and Pistons at those inflated series prices. Most people are simply blindly in love with all favourites, and have no concept of value or overlays. I wouldn't be too surprised to see one (and perhaps both) of the underdogs win their respective series...

LT Profits · 05-20-07, 01:38 PM

First of all, read my signature!

I like Utah in Game 1, and I would not be shocked if the Jazz win outright. Remember that the Jazz have been waiting in the wings for a week, while the Spurs have only been off a day and a half since winning the "de facto Championship Series" with Phoenix.

So, Jazz + points for one unit, Jazz on ML for 1/2 unit.

That being said, I do NOT think Spurs lose series, even if they do lose today. And if they win Game 1, I would virtually guarantee that they will not lose series, as Jazz have everything in their favor situationally today.

bigboydan · 05-20-07, 02:11 PM

Sorry coach, but I'm fading you on this one. I'm taking Utah +6.5

bigboydan · 05-20-07, 04:20 PM

Looks like your gonna get me on this one today coach.

jjgold · 05-20-07, 04:38 PM

winner Danny

bigboydan · 05-20-07, 04:43 PM

I should know better than to bet against a pro like you coach.

zootiehead · 05-20-07, 04:51 PM

Too early to declare the loss. SA is tiring late.

Razz · 05-20-07, 04:53 PM

The Jazz are the better team. I don't know if they'll win the series, but they are the better team. I wasn't sure about that before today, but now I am. Everything has gone against them today, and they are still right there in it.

DrunkenLullaby · 05-20-07, 05:14 PM

Hurts like a mofo to waste a +15 on the boards....especially when you've got +4600 for the Series (essentially).

Razz · 05-20-07, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by DrunkenLullaby

Hurts like a mofo to waste a +15 on the boards....especially when you've got +4600 for the Series (essentially).

It really does, and I hate moral victories, but that was about as encouraging as any loss will ever be.

onlooker · 05-20-07, 08:37 PM

Good job on cashing with the Spurs today JJ.

SBR_John · 05-21-07, 10:17 AM

I'm a little surprized at the Utah faithful. The only question is will SA start looking past the Jazz. Utah could win a game if that happens. Otherwise, this is just a warm up for the Pistons.

WileOut · 05-21-07, 10:32 AM

The Jazz have absolutely 0% chance to win the series against SA. They are too young and inexperienced. SA has a team full of champions.

SWEEP.

On the other side, Cleveland has 0% chance to beat Detroit in a 7 game series. This one will go 6 games maybe but the Cavs have a laughable offense.

Razz · 05-21-07, 10:40 AM

Man the Spurs homers are comical. Utah dominated the glass, showed their inexperience in the first half, didn't get any calls, watched the Spurs make every jumper the first three quarters, and still had a slight chance down the stretch.
The Spurs have no answer for Williams, and the Jazz tore the vaunted Spurs defense to shreds. They have a big quickness advantage, and exploited the Spurs defense in the second half on the pick n' roll and with their other offensive sets. They continue to get layups, and the chances of them losing a home game is infinitesimal. They'll find a road win, and still win this series.

jjgold · 05-21-07, 10:48 AM

I just bet Utah for the series for a nickel, this looks too easy.

WileOut · 05-21-07, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by Razz

Man the Spurs homers are comical. Utah dominated the glass, showed their inexperience in the first half, didn't get any calls, watched the Spurs make every jumper the first three quarters, and still had a slight chance down the stretch.
The Spurs have no answer for Williams, and the Jazz tore the vaunted Spurs defense to shreds. They have a big quickness advantage, and exploited the Spurs defense in the second half on the pick n' roll and with their other offensive sets. They continue to get layups, and the chances of them losing a home game is infinitesimal. They'll find a road win, and still win this series.

The Spurs have no answer for Williams? Parker is an all-star you idiot. Parker may be the fastest player in the NBA. I would say that the Jazz have no answer for Parker. Oh and by the way, I am a hawks fan. Could care less about the Spurs.

Yea the Jazz did this and did that, then what happened? THE SPURS WON. Not only won, but they covered the spread.

Razz · 05-21-07, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by WileOut

The Spurs have no answer for Williams? Parker is an all-star you idiot.

LOL. The NBA All-Star voting is about the worst possible evidence you could possibly give. Shaq played about 5 games in the first half of the season and made the All-Star team. Anyone who knows basketball will tell you the Jazz have the much better PG in this series. Williams is just entering his prime, and he will be a top-3 MVP candidate in the coming years. He put up better offensive numbers than Parker this year and is a much, much better defender.

jjgold · 05-21-07, 11:26 AM

Spurs played perfect and only won by 8 at home, that is not something I would brag about, Utah played real bad also.

WileOut · 05-21-07, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by Razz

He put up better offensive numbers than Parker this year and is a much, much better defender.

Parker 06-07: 18.6 PPG, 52% shooting, 39.5% 3's, 78% FT, 5.5 APG, 2.48 TO.

Williams 06-07: 16.2 PPG, 45.6% shooting, 32% 3's, 76.7% FT, 9.3 APG, 3.08 TO.

Parker did all that in over 4 minutes less playing time per game.

WileOut · 05-22-07, 10:24 PM

Put a fork in em, the Jazz are done.

These teams arent even in the same area code. Spurs just toying with them at this point.

Like I said, the Spurs are a team full of champions.

onlooker · 05-22-07, 10:37 PM

Razz, you still think the Jazz are the best team in the playoffs?

Just Razzin' ya bud.

Razz · 05-22-07, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by onlòóker

Razz, you still think the Jazz are the best team in the playoffs?

Yes, Spurs just too experienced to lose at home unless the officials call a fair game, which they obviously refuse to do. I still don't think SA can win in Utah, hell, they never have in the playoffs. Jazz probably a year away from winning it all though. Williams/Boozer best tandem in the league next year unless KG goes to Phoenix.

gridironguy · 05-22-07, 11:38 PM

The Spurs remind me of the New England Patriots. Great front office, great head coaches, star players at key positions and excellent role players and back-ups. Sound, fundamental systems that simply win championships. Barring a major injury or suspension, I cannot see the Spurs losing this season. They are too strong.

Just because I am not a (rooting) fan of the Spurs (or the Patriots), it does not mean I cannot acknowledge their greatness.

Hopefully the Cavs/Pistons winner can at least make it a semi-interesting series in the finals..

jjgold · 05-23-07, 06:08 AM

I was wrong on this one, Utah comes home I still think they can win 2. Lets see what happens.

isetcap · 05-23-07, 10:21 AM

Utah is coached by the Marty Schottenheimer of the NBA.

It's easy to fall in love with the way they play basketball until it comes time to win big games. They make the Spurs (oldest team in the league) look like a bunch of track stars. Their defensive approach is to hack a team into submission and the Spurs LOVE to play in games like that.

jjgold · 05-23-07, 10:43 AM

Sloan has never won big games that is true.

Razz · 05-23-07, 10:45 AM

Bad comparison. Schottenheimer never had any postseason success. Sloan has won several postseason series, got to the Finals twice, and would have a championship if not for his best teams running into MJ.

gridironguy · 05-23-07, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by isetcap

Utah is coached by the Marty Schottenheimer of the NBA.

It's easy to fall in love with the way they play basketball until it comes time to win big games. They make the Spurs (oldest team in the league) look like a bunch of track stars. Their defensive approach is to hack a team into submission and the Spurs LOVE to play in games like that.

Marty has never made the Super Bowl, but Sloan has taken 2 teams to the NBA Finals (97 & 98) where he ran into a team with the greatest player of all time.

I don't believe it's a fair comparison..

SBR_John · 05-23-07, 12:50 PM

I still think Utah will be fine at home. BTW, the refs have been doing their best to keep the Spurs opponets in the game since the Denver series imo. SA plays good playoff defense and are being rewarded by letting the other team shoot free throws all night. Luckily, Detroit is not a ref favorite either.

Sean · 05-23-07, 01:04 PM

Imho ...

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