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  • Karayilan9
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    • 01-10-09
    • 3742

    #1
    Sports most susceptible to match fixing
    Sports which have low paid players are most open to fixing and rigging, if the teams not willing to pay somebody else will.

    I'd say

    - Lower league soccer in Eastern Europe/Asia/Africa/Latin America
    - NCAA football
    - NCAA basketball

    NCAA basketball is probobly the easiest sport to get away with it in, the more I look into it the more unbelievable it gets. I don't know the sport well but they don't get paid much or nothing for playing? There is no way to even know if a player point shaved unless there somebody filmed the deal taking place. How rife do you think it is? These college kids could shave a point for anything, you could get imaginative, offer hot chicks, get them in gambling debt, make them owe you because of losing a playstation game, you know how it is in college they could shave a point over the stupidest of reasons.
  • pavyracer
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    • 04-12-07
    • 82900

    #2
    NHL is also easy to fix. Especially now with the OT rule. Basically if a game is tied they get one point each and the "winner" fixes the game in shootout.
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    • keyboarding
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      • 07-30-09
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      #3
      Boxing.
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      • landers781
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        • 02-27-09
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        #4
        I say any game that gives the officials too much control.. its so easy for a TD to be taken back or "fouls" being called to get some free throws to the line.

        MLb and NHl are probably the hardest
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        • Rio DiNero
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          #5
          TENNIS!
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          • G's pks
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            • 01-01-09
            • 22251

            #6
            I would agree here... also like the tennis fixing imagine the williams sisters when they play each other! They must have the biggest laugh with everyone calling them names...but they are smarter than you think!
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            • G's pks
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              • 01-01-09
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              #7
              Anyone who comes in with that oh come on sports are never fixed attitude...fk you!
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              • Al Masters
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                • 04-29-06
                • 6940

                #8
                If i was broke and needed money desperately and could be any athlete i wanted to be to fix the outcome of a game i think a Goalie in hockey would be the easiest way to throw a game and remain unoticed.
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                • StraitShooter
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                  • 07-22-09
                  • 10464

                  #9
                  Obviously tennis, boxing and individual sports you can bet on
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                  • pavyracer
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                    • 04-12-07
                    • 82900

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Al Masters
                    If i was broke and needed money desperately and could be any athlete i wanted to be to fix the outcome of a game i think a Goalie in hockey would be the easiest way to throw a game and remain unoticed.
                    Especially in a shootout.
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                    • Boner_18
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                      • 08-24-08
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                      #11
                      Tennis is #1 i think.
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                      • babyanni
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                        • 09-23-09
                        • 1780

                        #12
                        MMA you can bet on the smaller shows now and alot of those kids are getting 2k to show and 2k to win if they are lucky... wouldnt take to much to talk the kid into losing especially a journeyman type who is fighting for a paycheck or knows he can fight else where.
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                        • keyboarding
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                          • 07-30-09
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Al Masters
                          If i was broke and needed money desperately and could be any athlete i wanted to be to fix the outcome of a game i think a Goalie in hockey would be the easiest way to throw a game and remain unoticed.
                          Originally posted by pavyracer
                          Especially in a shootout.
                          These are very strange answers. If you "fixed" a game as a goalie, you'd let in 3 goals on 3 shots, and get pulled immediately. Your team could still tie the game and win. Now, if you wanted to do it in shootout, you'd have to keep your team in the game the whole time playing well, and then suck, which still doesn't guarantee your teammates don't score. You guys are being morons.

                          The easiest sports to fix are the one on one matchups. Tennis, boxing, MMA, etc. Not team sports where coaches can take you out of the game.
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                          • Al Masters
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                            • 04-29-06
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by StraitShooter
                            Obviously tennis, boxing and individual sports you can bet on

                            It wasnt that easy for Ray Mercer to fix the fight he was in,he got caught red tongued, do you remember that incident?

                            Didnt they out a few Tennis players last year for fixing matches, i would think it would be easier to conceal a fix in a team sport enviroment cause the light isnt always shining on you.

                            A few poor passes in Bball will get the job done, or a few goals let in can easily be seen as a poor night for a goaltender, how about a QB throwing 3 interceptions to offset a point spread.

                            just my 2cents...... you may be right.... i may be wrong.
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                            • pavyracer
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                              • 04-12-07
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by keyboarding
                              These are very strange answers. If you "fixed" a game as a goalie, you'd let in 3 goals on 3 shots, and get pulled immediately. Your team could still tie the game and win. Now, if you wanted to do it in shootout, you'd have to keep your team in the game the whole time playing well, and then suck, which still doesn't guarantee your teammates don't score. You guys are being morons.

                              The easiest sports to fix are the one on one matchups. Tennis, boxing, MMA, etc. Not team sports where coaches can take you out of the game.
                              keyboarding,

                              I wasn't referring to goalie fixing. I'm saying the team GM's meet at the skybox during the game and decide to fix it by offering the one point to the other team in exchange for a shootout win and everyone goes home happy with the money in the bank.
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                              • Al Masters
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                                • 04-29-06
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by keyboarding
                                These are very strange answers. If you "fixed" a game as a goalie, you'd let in 3 goals on 3 shots, and get pulled immediately. Your team could still tie the game and win. Now, if you wanted to do it in shootout, you'd have to keep your team in the game the whole time playing well, and then suck, which still doesn't guarantee your teammates don't score. You guys are being morons.

                                The easiest sports to fix are the one on one matchups. Tennis, boxing, MMA, etc. Not team sports where coaches can take you out of the game.
                                I see your not the sharpest guy around, why in the world would a goalie have to let in the first 3 shots he faced to make the fix work?


                                Average score in a hockey game is 3-2, all the goalie would have to do is go with the flow of the game and let in 3 or 4 bad goals during the WHOLE game to make it work.

                                If its so fvcking easy to do in tennis why did a few get caught last summer?
                                If its so easy to do in Boxing why did Ray Mercer get caught.

                                Finally about calling me and poster PAVY morons... GO FVCK YOURSELF YOU NO GOOD MOTHER FVCKER!!
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                                • StraitShooter
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                                  • 07-22-09
                                  • 10464

                                  #17
                                  Let in 3 or 4 bad goals?..what about the good goals?

                                  you may get away with letting in some bad goals once or twice after that you will find yourself goal keeping in Peoria

                                  in shootouts you ever notice lots of the misses are not even on net

                                  seems like the shooter could fix it more than the goalie

                                  I agree with Keyboarding outside of the moron slang

                                  he dont mean nothing by it just his manner of expression
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                                  • Flying Dutchman
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                                    • 05-17-09
                                    • 2467

                                    #18
                                    Football (Soccer to you dumb American fvks)...

                                    ...read the papers...

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                                    • scratbandit
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                                      • 09-07-09
                                      • 548

                                      #19
                                      I would have to say soccer for sure...
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                                      • Al Masters
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                                        • 04-29-06
                                        • 6940

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by StraitShooter
                                        Let in 3 or 4 bad goals?..what about the good goals?

                                        you may get away with letting in some bad goals once or twice after that you will find yourself goal keeping in Peoria

                                        in shootouts you ever notice lots of the misses are not even on net

                                        seems like the shooter could fix it more than the goalie

                                        I agree with Keyboarding outside of the moron slang

                                        he dont mean nothing by it just his manner of expression
                                        Shooter, i know your a respectable poster, so just cause we have different visions on the best way to fix games doesnt make EITHER of us right or wrong just different opinions,so while i respect your opinion as i do keyboards, when i get called names for my opinion then i must bite back.

                                        I dont believe any number 1 goalie who decides to let in a few soft goals for the purpose of fixing a game will get sent down to Peria or Hershey or anywhere else, it would just be chalked up to a poor outing.unless of course he was found to be fixing the game, then being sent down to the minors would be the least of his problems.

                                        If what you say is true Carey PRICE would be playing in Hamilton
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                                        • BGS 9.5
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                                          • 01-10-08
                                          • 4628

                                          #21
                                          Can't be but a small handful that are NOT fixable.....
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                                          • pavyracer
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                                            • 04-12-07
                                            • 82900

                                            #22
                                            Most of the match fixing in soccer is done on HT/FT bets. Lets say you have a -200 fav for game the HT/FT odds of 2/1 (meaning home team is down in first half but wins the game) could be +1000 or more. So they concede a penalty right before HT to go down 0-1 and then they come back and trash them on 2nd half. Everyone goes home happy.
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                                            • StraitShooter
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                                              • 07-22-09
                                              • 10464

                                              #23
                                              Al Masters

                                              Its good to have different opinions..if we always agreed we wouldnt have much of a forum

                                              In truth we can merely speculate because we will never know for sure unless we are in the know

                                              Good thread topic Al
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                                              • Al Masters
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                                                • 04-29-06
                                                • 6940

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by StraitShooter
                                                Al Masters Its good to have different opinions..if we always agreed we wouldnt have much of a forum In truth we can merely speculate because we will never know for sure unless we are in the know Good thread topic Al
                                                I agree!
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                                                • Karayilan9
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                                                  • 01-10-09
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Al Masters
                                                  It wasnt that easy for Ray Mercer to fix the fight he was in,he got caught red tongued, do you remember that incident?

                                                  Didnt they out a few Tennis players last year for fixing matches, i would think it would be easier to conceal a fix in a team sport enviroment cause the light isnt always shining on you.

                                                  A few poor passes in Bball will get the job done, or a few goals let in can easily be seen as a poor night for a goaltender, how about a QB throwing 3 interceptions to offset a point spread.

                                                  just my 2cents...... you may be right.... i may be wrong.


                                                  Team sports are easier to get away with fixing for the reasons you gave.

                                                  Football (Soccer) fixing happens but not in the leagues most people wager on, in the big leagues players are paid so much they have no need to take some backhanders for a few G's when they are making 10-100K a week. The fixing that goes on in the major leagues is buying off the refs, refs and linesmen arn't paid much compared to the players and are more willing to take bribes.

                                                  However, in the lesser known and smaller leagues which play peanuts compared to the big leagues fixing is common place and easy. Some of these countries are very corrupt and the only thing organised is crime so if you have the right contacts they get away with it and the Fifa officials in those countries turn a blind eye as there is no media spotlight. Some of it is so blatent, I've watched games in non-televised matches in smaller leagues were players taking clear shots at his own goal

                                                  College basketball has to be the sport most susceptible to fixing though, nobody can accuse a player of fixing just for missing a few shots or giving away some fouls.
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                                                  • windmann2
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                                                    • 09-04-09
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                                                    #26
                                                    soccer...
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                                                    • keyboarding
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                      keyboarding, I wasn't referring to goalie fixing. I'm saying the team GM's meet at the skybox during the game and decide to fix it by offering the one point to the other team in exchange for a shootout win and everyone goes home happy with the money in the bank.
                                                      Sure, but a GM is going to have a hard time convincing his entire team to throw a game, no? Not to mention if that player has options to not play for that team or league, therefore not go along with the ruse.
                                                      Originally posted by Al Masters
                                                      I see your not the sharpest guy around, why in the world would a goalie have to let in the first 3 shots he faced to make the fix work?
                                                      He wouldn't have to, but it'd be his best shot at it. More to the point is that a goalie, on his own, could not necessarily guarantee a loss. He could potentially face less than 18 shots in the game. Not the greatest amount of wiggle room there. But your forwards/defense not being in on the fix is my main point.

                                                      Originally posted by StraitShooter
                                                      he dont mean nothing by it just his manner of expression
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                                                      • big joe 1212
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                                                        #28
                                                        Any single person sport....boxing, tennis
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                                                        • urge2kill
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by babyanni
                                                          MMA you can bet on the smaller shows now and alot of those kids are getting 2k to show and 2k to win if they are lucky... wouldnt take to much to talk the kid into losing especially a journeyman type who is fighting for a paycheck or knows he can fight else where.
                                                          What small shows are you talking about? You couldn't even find odds on the Strikeforce Challengers fights last Friday.
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                                                          • GELATINOUS CUBE
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                                                            #30
                                                            Where the hell is Dutch? And what games are real? JV hoops?
                                                            blog '09-'10: 37-16: +$31,900
                                                            mlb 2010; 16-12: +$4,540
                                                            gellyhoops 2010: 10-6 +$3,150
                                                            overall: 63-34 +$40,290
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                                                            • jjgold
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                                                              #31
                                                              College baskets and foots by far
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                                                              • smitch124
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                                                                #32
                                                                Any sport with subjective judging...

                                                                Boxing etc
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                                                                • daggerkobe
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                                                                  • 03-25-08
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Individual sports such as tennis & boxing would be the easiest and the most profitable to fix.

                                                                  Could you imagine Roger Federer throwing his 1st RD match at a grand slam as a -20,000 fav? The mob could bet $1M on his opponent and win $170M. Give Roger a $70M cut and they still make a cool $100M.

                                                                  Roger could save face and make it less obvious by going 5 sets and blaming it on the flu or some bogus illness.
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                                                                  • lakerboy
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    NBA
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                                                                    • BurtRapp
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Tennis!!!!!!!
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