No parlays allowed on Jazz Prick money

[vitalogist]

Just got out of live chat with Jazz...

Jeff: what are the stipulations of a freeplay to qualify for the 4x rollover? three team parlays only? ml up to /- 200 only?

You are now speaking with Kelvin of Customer Support.

Kelvin: the roll over is on the money at risk
Kelvin: we add all your bets win or lose and we add them all once you meet your roll over you can request a payout
Jeff: what types of parlays are allowed on a freeplay?

Kelvin: no parlays only on straight bets
Kelvin: for the freeplay money
Kelvin: but to roll over we take your action
Jeff: parlays not allowed at all then?

Kelvin: on freeplay money no
Jeff: okay so bet it straight up, and if I win I only have to roll the initial $13 4x, correct?

Kelvin: the deposit on which you got the free play on and the free play both
Jeff: ok got it. winnings don't have to be rolled is what you're saying....

Kelvin: the money at risk is what we add
Jeff: got it. thanks alot.

[biggamer3]

what no parlays? Wtf that sucks

[poker_dummy101]

btp is money not freeplays

[poker_dummy101]

so mods, please change the title

[smitch124]

But the Jazz money from BTP isnt a freeplay, its cash. I believe OTW already played a parlay on his money, you may have been asking the wrong question.

[B1GER1C828]

ya the rep is wrong...its money with 4x rollover..you can parlay it all you want sir.

[pavyracer]

btp is money not freeplays

[B1GER1C828]

Ya i got a parlay going as well.

[vitalogist]

alright my bad. mods go ahead and delete this thread, i asked the wrong question....

[Capybara]

The math on this rollover crap is SO confusing!

Maybe I just need to go through it and it will become clearer... but for example...

I was talking to a guy from JustBet, he was telling me about the 30% bonus there. He's like "If you depost $100, you get $30." So I say what about rollover?
He says "12x rollover." Gross.

But when I ask about distinguishing between the free-play 30 and my OWN 100, he says "No, it all has to be rolled over 12 times to take a withdrawal." I'm like, WHAT? I assume he was either "special" or just didn't get me.

Anyway, this is so confusing. What if I bet $50? Is that $30 freeplay and $20 of my own? What if I win it, then what if I bet $90? How much counts toward rollover of the $30 and how much doesn't? HOW THE F DOES ANYONE CALCULATE THIS??!!

[onthewhat]

BTP is Cash, not a freeplay

Parlays allowed, just have to meet a 4x rollover

[B1GER1C828]

On freeplays, this is how it works

Say you get a 50 dollar freeplay, and you make a 50 dollar +100 bet and win. You only get your winnings so 50 dollars put back into your account. Now you need to meet the rollover for this amount(12x rollover for instance) so 50x12=600. 600 dollars in bets before you can withdrawal.

[pattymayo]

Parlay's are good with BTP money on Jazz. I just put my $13 on a two-teamer in college hoops.

[Capybara]

On freeplays, this is how it works

Say you get a 50 dollar freeplay, and you make a 50 dollar +100 bet and win. You only get your winnings so 50 dollars put back into your account. Now you need to meet the rollover for this amount(12x rollover for instance) so 50x12=600. 600 dollars in bets before you can withdrawal.

Thanks, B1, but what about this issue: When you have a REAL deposit PLUS a bonus with rollover, and you're making all different bets with different amounts, how do you know what counts toward rollover and what doesn't?

Like say put in 100 cash, get 30 bonus. Bet 50 at +100, win, then bet 90 at -110, etc., etc., etc. Do you have some simple formula, because I am still confused.

[Boner_18]

Maybe I just need to go through it and it will become clearer... but for example...

I was talking to a guy from JustBet, he was telling me about the 30% bonus there. He's like "If you depost $100, you get $30." So I say what about rollover?
He says "12x rollover." Gross.

But when I ask about distinguishing between the free-play 30 and my OWN 100, he says "No, it all has to be rolled over 12 times to take a withdrawal." I'm like, WHAT? I assume he was either "special" or just didn't get me.

Anyway, this is so confusing. What if I bet $50? Is that $30 freeplay and $20 of my own? What if I win it, then what if I bet $90? How much counts toward rollover of the $30 and how much doesn't? HOW THE F DOES ANYONE CALCULATE THIS??!!

I believe what he means is that the $100 and the $30 must be rolled 12x until there is a cashout of any kind. So just comingle the funds and roll $130(12x) = $1560. That means you must total $1560 by the lesser of risked/won (- lines would be amount won counted + lines would be amount bet counted).

Good luck w/ that.

[Capybara]

I believe what he means is that the $100 and the $30 must be rolled 12x until there is a cashout of any kind. So just comingle the funds and roll $130(12x) = $1560. That means you must total $1560 by the lesser of risked/won (- lines would be amount won counted + lines would be amount bet counted).

Good luck w/ that.

I gotcha Boner. BUT, wait a sec, how can they not let you cash out YOUR OWN $100??????? How can they make you roll over your OWN money, not the bonus? I figured he had his head up his ass. Can that be right? Makes no F'n sense.

[B1GER1C828]

I gotcha Boner. BUT, wait a sec, how can they not let you cash out YOUR OWN $100??????? How can they make you roll over your OWN money, not the bonus? I figured he had his head up his ass. Can that be right? Makes no F'n sense.

boner is right though...You need to rollover your deposit+winnings(on freeplay) or deposit+cashbonus

[Boner_18]

yeah its a screw job. 30% is good but 12x deposit and bonus is terrible. you are better off passing on the 30% and just playing your hundo free and clear.

[Capybara]

boner is right though...You need to rollover your deposit+winnings(on freeplay) or deposit+cashbonus

Whoa whoa whoa..... Something is amiss here.

1. I deposit $100 of actual cash.

2. They throw in a 30% "bonus".

3. I cannot take ANY withdrawal until I've ROLLED OVER (130 x 12 = ) $1,560????

Who on EARTH would make a deposit then? That makes no sense. That is not a deposit, that's a donation. THAT MUST BE WRONG. It HAS to be only the 30 you need to roll over 12 times, right? RIGHT?!! I feel like I'm in Looney Land.

[B1GER1C828]

Whoa whoa whoa..... Something is amiss here. 1. I deposit $100 of actual cash. 2. They throw in a 30% "bonus". 3. I cannot take ANY withdrawal until I've ROLLED OVER (130 x 12 = ) $1,560???? Who on EARTH would make a deposit then? That makes no sense. That is not a deposit, that's a donation. THAT MUST BE WRONG. It HAS to be only the 30 you need to roll over 12 times, right? RIGHT?!! I feel like I'm in Looney Land.

Thats why i dont take big rollovers. On betphoenix i got a 125 cash play on a 125 deposit with 8x rollover. so i needed to bet 1750, which i did after 2-3 weeks or so. Just dont take big rollovers!

[Capybara]

Thats why i dont take big rollovers. On betphoenix i got a 125 cash play on a 125 deposit with 8x rollover. so i needed to bet 1750, which i did after 2-3 weeks or so. Just dont take big rollovers!

So you needed to bet 2000, right? 250 x 8, right?

I still don't get how they can keep your own deposit hostage. Makes no sense. That's your money.

[Boner_18]

Believe it man. If they said you have to roll the deposit and the bonus that is the scenario. They can hold your own deposit hostage because the second you enter the bonus code you are authorizing them to saddle your deposit with this crazy condition. Think of it like you are giving the money to them outright, they are adding 30% to it and will release it to you ONLY if you meet the requirements.

They figure you don't like it and you wont take the bonus and that is what you should do.

[Boner_18]

Also, it doesn't sound so bad when the rollover is only 3x or 4x. For example DSI used to give 20% bonus w/ 4x rollover. That same deposit would be $100 + $20 (bonus) = $120 x 4 = $480. Now it doesn't sound as bad as 1850 or whatever.

[Capybara]

Believe it man. If they said you have to roll the deposit and the bonus that is the scenario. They can hold your own deposit hostage because the second you enter the bonus code you are authorizing them to saddle your deposit with this crazy condition. Think of it like you are giving the money to them outright, they are adding 30% to it and will release it to you ONLY if you meet the requirements.

They figure you don't like it and you wont take the bonus and that is what you should do.

Good to know. All sites aren't like this, are they? I use SIA, and I know they've given me bonus money before, like at start of this NFL season. Think I put in 300 and they gave me 45. I never even asked, but had no problem withdrawing when I withdrew.

[Doug]

might as well parlay if you only get like $15 to bet.

[Boner_18]

Good to know. All sites aren't like this, are they? I use SIA, and I know they've given me bonus money before, like at start of this NFL season. Think I put in 300 and they gave me 45. I never even asked, but had no problem withdrawing when I withdrew.

I think most are like this thought the multiplier changes (12x is way high). That is why it becomes very important to read the fine print on bonuses. Someone above describes what a typical "free-play" is. Also in the handicapper forum there are detailed ways to figure out what each type of bonus is "worth" in terms of cash in hand which is nice if you want to compare two.

[GamblingMike]

Maybe I just need to go through it and it will become clearer... but for example...

I was talking to a guy from JustBet, he was telling me about the 30% bonus there. He's like "If you depost $100, you get $30." So I say what about rollover?
He says "12x rollover." Gross.

But when I ask about distinguishing between the free-play 30 and my OWN 100, he says "No, it all has to be rolled over 12 times to take a withdrawal." I'm like, WHAT? I assume he was either "special" or just didn't get me.

Anyway, this is so confusing. What if I bet $50? Is that $30 freeplay and $20 of my own? What if I win it, then what if I bet $90? How much counts toward rollover of the $30 and how much doesn't? HOW THE F DOES ANYONE CALCULATE THIS??!!

JustBet's website says the rollover on the 30% Free Play Bonus is 6x.