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One more thing, what kind of jack bauer/james bond type shit do you take me for? Trying to get your IP address??? wtf are you talking about? u think ppl are gonna get you on satellite coverage next? hahahaha thats just paranoid dellusions there; u actually believe ppl would put time, money and effort into finding out who you are for the posts u made here? come on man, i might be wrong about you after all maybe youre only posting here for the 'thrill' u get after your mouse clicks submit. i cant even imagine the pipedreams your having of being in danger hahahahaha. relax buddy and move on, its not worth your time or mine, but it sure is funnyComment -
look you guys are to funny, did I say I did not work for Betus, no I said I did not work in sales you dumb f88k, yes betus would and did for the last person who did a post a few months back or did you forget about that Dave? love your post it told me who you where right away. BTW in case you 2 clowns forgot in processing we do not talk to the clients at all we simply run the cards. Me being a disgruntaled employee, to be honest not at all I just want to f88k with you a little like you do to everyone else, for me this is just to make me laugh and have fun But you no what it does not matter any more Betus will be gone soon so have fun oh so keep on posting guys so these treads stay at the top yeah babyComment -
Lol.
Notice how most of the people trying to discredit estevens have a couple posts?
Mover, you may not work for BetUS, but at the very least you are a shill for them. Of all books to try and defend, you decide to take a stand with betus?
You (and betus) obviously hate sbr because sbr is transparent in showing how awful of a company betus is. Notice how the books that payout in a timely fashion and don't revoke bonuses are rated usually B or better? Notice how the books that are borderline scams, like jazette and betus are rated D or lower?
You don't get a D-rating or worse for nothing.Comment -
Great post Estevens. You hit BetUS, Taco and Mover right on the nose.Comment -
That is not completely true
Many times we have seen books with B or higher ratings ( read advertisers ), with complaints, slow pays, excuses etc and all the while their ratings remain unchanged, and at the same time we have seen books which have had zero complaints, zero slow pays, zero problems rated in the C or D range.
So, while perhaps many of SBRs ratings are accurate, some especially when advertisers are concerned are skewed.
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The ratings are pretty good now. It's not like the early days when A and B rated books were tanking and SBR was still collecting.So, while perhaps many of SBRs ratings are accurate, some especially when advertisers are concerned are skewed.Comment -
While I agree they are somewhat more reflective of reality now, they are still skewed.
One only has to look at for example BODOG.
Many slow pay complaints floating around the various forums 3, 4 5 week waits for simple Check Payments, etc
Yes, somehow, they are rated "A" here.
Oh, ya, I forgot, they are an advertiser!Comment -
Post!!! I perfer to be on top anyway. and i dont know any dave sry. Im not a shill for betus thats for sure i mean everone on these sites know the #1 options are either pinny (unless theyre steam players)or something solid in europe, i just HATE sales reps and want to poke as many hole in Estevens ship as i can. Thats why i only have a few posts, he made me sign up and comment for the 1st time.Comment -
im sorry but what does the amount of post I do have to do with anything...I been a member of these forums since january and I keep an eye out for books to avoid..
My account with BetUS I had over 2 years, so when I came to the forums I can admit some info I found here is true but other info is not. I like playing at the Greek because they pay fast and they are who I do 75% of my action with.
I just dont like your high and mighty attitude you have because you aient no saint and you say scamming but if they were doing that. Why did I receive my check 2 weeks ago and the check cleared....Can't answer can you dipshitComment -
Sure I can you looser, it's called the paramid scam dip shit, someone deposit and you get there money, they only pay what they have to right now, they will be closed soon so they will not pay more the they have to, if I pay you $500 and some one just sent me a dime then I still make money. The owners probably have all their money and are seeing how many more sucks like you they can rail in beforethey take off with everyones money, wake up dipshitComment -
u sound sexy Estevens, are you sexy? as u can probably tell i got nothing better to do right now at work then check this message board, but then so does estevens so..... are u sexy?(boy im sure racking up the posts now)Comment -
Very sexy, glad you got points because that's all you can getComment -
Ya thats right a company thats been booking action for like 10 years just did it so that THIS season they can hatch their evil plan and close down and keep everyones money. 1 question: Can you say with total honesty that while you worked for Betus u witnessed 1 or more players that were owed winnings and were not paid at all, and u were told by a manager/supervisor that the company will not be paying them?and please lets omits the f88ks and shits....Comment -
You don't get it most Betus is affiliated with BOS so they now it's just about over for them as well now it's time to get the money and run just like BOS did so no I don't think 10 years has anything to do with it, come on your smarter then this your a gringo just look at all the scams in the states from your big companies enron ect. and to answere your other question all you have to do is look in the forums and you will get your answere, YESComment -
Risk vs Reward. Don't sweat the game, sweat the payout.Comment -
This is too much playground shit for me, i feel like im back in grammer school. look this will be my last post, but to clarify i didnt ask for the forums experience most posters are players or the public etc... i asked from your experience, but whatever, u win thx for the ride man.Comment -
Don't let the door hit you in the ass.look this will be my last post,Comment -
Im not going anywhere!!!
Sorry to disappoint you, but im not going anywhere, you can rant, whine, stick a finger up your @$$ I dont give a shit...
Point being is anyone playing with sportbooks after the US legislation changed are chancing it either way. No matter what book you play. Thier are no guarentee's even with the safest of books. I read BetUS has been in business for over 10 years and they got themselves both positive and negative points from using them, but if they were intensionally scamming people they would have been shut down long time ago by the OSGA and the Costa Rican authorities.
I am not trying to defend BetUS but your acusations have no valid points and any name you can come up with dont mean shit. I don't trust your @$$ so how about you stop posting and get back to your little scamming job at another book.
And please so us all a favor and go complain to people who care what you have to say!!!Comment -
You are just making a fool out of yourself. Who runs OSGA?but if they were intensionally scamming people they would have been shut down long time ago by the OSGA and the Costa Rican authorities.Comment -
LMFAO now this post is clasic the OSGA the CR goverment, come one get a life the OSGA was owned by BOS now BetUS has a major stake in them anyone can pay off the CR gov, are you really this stupid or are you trying to play like you don't work for them God this one was funny. Oh and BTW I don't work in the sports industry any more and don't scam people so go on let's see your next post make me laugh again please you are making my day go by fastComment -
Raider, get a life....You are making excuses to avoid common sense, I had a good point that if they are scamming, then wouldn the so called "INTERPOL" down the road shut them down years ago.
If you want to
and be EStevens lap dog I wont stop you....
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Not to lazy to get your point maybe you should wake up, you no how many scam books go for years with out getting caught, interpol can not do anything unless a warent has been issued by the states. Please don't stop I'm having to much fun with you maybe you will learn something but if not atleast we will all have some laughsRaider, get a life....You are making excuses to avoid common sense, I had a good point that if they are scamming, then wouldn the so called "INTERPOL" down the road shut them down years ago.
If you want to and be EStevens lap dog I wont stop you....
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L2P- You are a complete moron. How many books in CR go under and who owns OSGA?
Do you have any idea?Comment -
The OSGA is not owned by BoS. They were however indicted along with BoS of being a scam or some thing along those lines.
The connection is the owner of the OSGA married into the BoS family and started the site.
As far as BetUS making it until football I'd hang a line:
Will make it -600
Won't make it +400
The only ones pretending that this is a decent book are on the BetUS payroll, pure and simple. They are number 1 on the Feds hit list, if you win big they will stiff you, the owners gamble with the players post up money and they could close at any time. No bookmaker in Costa Rica would extend these owners a penny of credit. No book would dare do a transfer with this book and that's the short version. There is a lot more but I think my point has been made.Comment -
ESTEVENS is right in alot of what he has to say, but only tells a fraction of the story. I only worked for BetUS for about 6 months, and although it was not the greatest it also was not horendous.
I can honestly say that durring my first 5 months there in Costa Rica, every player who requested a cash out was paid to my knoweldge. (This was also durring the middle of football, so most players kept money in their account). It all went down hill when the company had to scramble and move operations at the same time frame Neteller shut down and the US Government started looking more closely. I know that for a 30-45 day period, the right hand not only did not know what the left hand was doing it did not even know what its thumb was doing.
The problem with BetUS is how it is set up. Each department pretty much runs seperate from the othe departments, so I could approve a payout for a customer and than find out 2 days later that someone in processing cancelled it because certain paperwork was not in or such. Than I would get the paper work and reapprove it and processing would also approve it, but than payouts would cancel for some reason. Than I would have to approve a third time for the payment to go out. When the player would call inquiring on their payout they would be talking with me, and I was not lying when I said it was approved and should have allready gone out. But I did not know what would be going on in the other side of the building. You would be shocked the number of times on a Saturday, after you had all ready approved payouts for Monday, and told players the "payment will go out Monday" that we would get a memo saying"Bank holiday on Monday and Tuesday, payments will go out Wednesday". So when a player would call me it seemed as if I had lied.
Please do not take what I am saying as an endorsement for BETUS. When I was brought in I did not know about their reputation, I went on Kevin K word that he was attempting to clean things up, and I really think he is trying and wants to , but it will be an immpossible task, and I would keep my money as far away from there as possible, but anyone here should all ready know that.Comment -
Thanks for the feedback. It sounds like the truth lies somewhere between the two employees' stories.Comment -
Very good post, the only thing that is not 100% is you would receive the note telling you the payouts would not happen a few days in advance. Before this the only people they would not pay is the big winners, or if the owners lost a lot of money that week with their gambling, and that would happen from time to time.Comment -
the only people they would not pay is the big winners, or if the owners lost a lot of money that week with their gambling, and that would happen from time to time.
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I just requested a payout for check by mail for $4500.00, I will keep you guys posted on when I get my check...Last one I asked for took about 15 days to be sent out and 5 more before I found it in my mail box. Wish me luckComment -
Meeting
I just got off the phone with one of my friends who still works there, looks like they have a big meeting next week with managers, looks like theey maybe closing down.Comment
