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  • gridironguy
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 04-17-07
    • 575

    #1
    Please, no overreactions to Dallas losing...
    They don't need to fire Avery, they don't need to trade Dirk, etc, etc.

    Last year was the first Dallas team in franchise history to make the NBA Finals, and guess what, it was Avery coaching and Dirk playing that was instrumental in getting them there. Avery did not forget how to coach, and Dirk did not forget how to play.

    They simply ran into a bad matchup. Styles make fights in boxing, and styles dictate basketball as well. Defense wins championships, right? Then why did UCLA (the best defensive team in NCAAB the past two years) get their asses kicked twice in consecutive years to Florida?

    It's because Florida's style disrupted everything UCLA wanted to do.

    Golden St had a style that completed disrupted Dallas in everything they wanted to do. Keen NBA eyes like many here at SBR's forum know that Golden St did not get their groove on until after the trade for Jackson and Harrington, and had they had those guys all season, they would've won 50+ games.

    This was not a normal 8 vs 1 seed. This was a rare exception...

    The Warriors are obviously for real.
  • bigboydan
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-10-05
    • 55420

    #2
    I'm not going to overreact over this one at all. The Warriors matched up very well with Dallas this year, and it clearly showed it all year long.
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    • gridironguy
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 04-17-07
      • 575

      #3
      Amen, Dan.

      I'm hearing some rumblings amongst my friends, and they think the way the average fan or avg sports bettor thinks -- which is to say they DON'T think.

      I find it borderline ridiculous to question Avery Johnson as a coach right now.
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      • Bill Dozer
        www.twitter.com/BillDozer
        • 07-12-05
        • 10894

        #4
        If they are going to shoot 55% from 3PT land they will be tough to beat. I agree Grid, the Warriors, like the Nugs, got their team together late. They are different teams than their records show.

        The big deal is where do the Mavs go from here? They could win 70 and still be deflated for a year. I'm expecting personel changes. Fans are going to need a reason to think next year's team is more than a good practice squad.
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        • mavs1978
          SBR Sharp
          • 03-18-07
          • 341

          #5
          devon harris.. dirk,, and howard are off limits.. anything else could happen... this is a nightmare
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          • sungus77
            SBR Hustler
            • 03-21-07
            • 96

            #6
            Originally posted by mavs1978
            devon harris.. dirk,, and howard are off limits.. anything else could happen... this is a nightmare
            seriously, who the hell will want a piece of dirk after this? he's obviously got very little heart, common sense, feel for the game, hell, BALLS. the mavs are stuck with him, the biggest fraud of an MVP ever.
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            • mavs1978
              SBR Sharp
              • 03-18-07
              • 341

              #7
              sungus.. very classless stuff
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              • sungus77
                SBR Hustler
                • 03-21-07
                • 96

                #8
                well, what series were you watching? classless doesnt make it untrue.

                i speak out of emotion, and probably alot out of frustration. i grew up in dallas and suffered thru many years of absolute horrid mavs teams. but these last two years have been worse. i'd have no problem going back to that draft and taking paul pierce instead. you too call yourself a mavs fan, so how can you defend him?
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                • mavs1978
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 03-18-07
                  • 341

                  #9
                  really paul pierce? and what has he done...

                  nevermind.. im going to play in the street
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                  • isetcap
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-16-05
                    • 4006

                    #10
                    Avery does get to take some heat on this one. I won't break down the mistakes that were made from a coaching standpoint early in the series...he was blatantly outcoached; but he had a clear opportunity to defeat Golden State in a one game series at the end of the regular season and inexplicably chose to give the 8-seed to Golden State sealing the Mavericks fate by forcing them to play against a team that has OWNED (check the member list) the Mavericks. He could have put his team up against the Slippers and would be resting up for the semis at this point.

                    And make no mistake about it, Golden State was the better team.
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                    • Bill Dozer
                      www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                      • 07-12-05
                      • 10894

                      #11
                      I think the media will start squaking about how Nash should have been signed right about ... now.
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                      • gridironguy
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 04-17-07
                        • 575

                        #12
                        Yes Bill, but the Nash thing would be unfair.

                        Dallas made it to the Finals last season, a place they never went with Nash and place Nash has not gone to with any other team.

                        I think it's unfair if the media brings that up. Then again, the media is made up of mostly unfair, foolish people.
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                        • durito
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 07-03-06
                          • 13173

                          #13
                          Hardly "the biggest upset in nba history" as was said on tnt tonight.

                          The Warriors are 20-6 (21-5ats) with Davis, Richardson, and Jackson playing together. They had one home loss with those players to san antontio, and they were playing a back to back.

                          Nuggets on the other hand finished with a worse record with iverson in the lineup than they did before the trade.
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                          • DrunkenLullaby
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-30-07
                            • 1631

                            #14
                            Originally posted by durito
                            Hardly "the biggest upset in nba history" as was said on tnt tonight.
                            Doesn't feel like that big of an upset.....BUT, on the other hand, has anyone ever cashed a ticket at greater odds than +1200 on an NBA playoff series?
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                            • gridironguy
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 04-17-07
                              • 575

                              #15
                              Great point Lullaby...
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                              • jjgold
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388179

                                #16
                                Avery should be fired, he got outcoached

                                Dirk is no MVP

                                The whole state of Texas should be embarrassed
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                                • nep1293
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 01-27-07
                                  • 443

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by isetcap
                                  but he had a clear opportunity to defeat Golden State in a one game series at the end of the regular season and inexplicably chose to give the 8-seed to Golden State sealing the Mavericks fate by forcing them to play against a team that has OWNED (check the member list) the Mavericks. He could have put his team up against the Slippers and would be resting up for the semis at this point.
                                  I think the reasoning of tanking the 1 game was to hopefully let Golden St get up to the #7 spot and then the Lakers would have dropped to the 8th. Also, what if the Mavs tried their best in that game and still lost? That would have really messed with their heads (even though that ended up happening anyway)
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                                  • Hawaiian time
                                    SBR Hustler
                                    • 05-02-07
                                    • 78

                                    #18
                                    I like Dallas but i like Golden state better now. unbelieveable !!!! I wonder what Mark cuban thinks LOL
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                                    • Willie Bee
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 02-14-06
                                      • 15726

                                      #19
                                      Only mental midgets and the zombies who who just follow whatever the talking heads tell them will holler stuff like Dirk's a loser, Avery should be fired, the entire state should be embarrassed.
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                                      • Dark Horse
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-14-05
                                        • 13764

                                        #20
                                        There's Cuban the fan, and Cuban the savvy business man. And they're not the same person. Not much chance for panic in Dallas.

                                        No matter what you may think of him, the guy is a risktaker, and he takes his losses like a man.
                                        Most of the time.
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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388179

                                          #21
                                          No excuse for a bunch of journeyman nba players to beat the best team in the NBA 4-2. GS had no business winning more than 1 game.
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                                          • crackerjack
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-01-06
                                            • 3366

                                            #22
                                            I loved seeing Mark Cuban look like he was going to cry...

                                            Dallas lost in six but they still had the sixth best winning pct in NBA history. They just got caught flat footed and outmatched. It isn't the first time an 8 seed beat a 1 seed...
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