Should I purchase a Dr Bob subscription?

[GRUMPERZ]

Anyone here subscribe to Dr Bob?

I have heard through his reliable sources that despite him posting a losing record his "math model" is in fact a winner this year.

I am having trouble finding where exactly this math model is compared to his regular picks each week. Surely, I'd use the math model over his recommended plays, or star system.

I guess most of the value in the subscription is using the math model and just having faith he has hit a little bump in the road. I just can't seem to find if it is included in the subscription.

Can someone point me in the direction I should be looking?

Thanks.

[GETMONEYKID]

[_Stat_]

I wipe me azz with my Dr Bob subscription. Gotta get a lil value from it.

[JohnnyC]

fuk Dr Bob and fuk u

[Thremp]

His peon alludes to such here:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=14474827&postcount=287

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=14476324&postcount=289

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=14495066&postcount=294

Is Bob angle shooting everyone?

[KC]

NO
1. He is not that good
2. His picks can be found online for free

[GRUMPERZ]

That guy works for Dr Bob?

He also refers to the math model. That is what I was referencing in my first post. I am trying to find more info about it. Can you tell me what this math model is Thremp?

[GETMONEYKID]

grumperz no one knows his math model except for bob and god

why don't you try making your own instead of sitting here bashing him

[Masu485]

fuk Dr Bob and fuk u

this is the post of the day by far

[Thremp]

That guy works for Dr Bob? He also refers to the math model. That is what I was referencing in my first post. I am trying to find more info about it. Can you tell me what this math model is Thremp?

He claims to work for Bob.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/40/sports-betting/brag-dr-bobs-first-employee-444012/

He had some other thread where some noob called "Dreamer" talked some smack about Bob. But I guess GB didn't want his boss getting noobed so he had it deleted.

[ABEHONEST]

I would rather subscribe to that other more "famous", Bob . TV'S Bob in the Santa suit !

[jjgold]

He would not be hustling plays if he was that good

[pavyracer]

No. He hits below 50%. He is bad.

[SBR Lou]

That guy works for Dr Bob?

He also refers to the math model. That is what I was referencing in my first post. I am trying to find more info about it. Can you tell me what this math model is Thremp?

He does not release his "math model". He releases star picks and strong opinions using his model, but he does not disclose the inner workings of the model or what comprises it. It's just picks with write ups and odds he suggests something is a play at, man.

[Fishhead]

Geezus, of course not!!!!!

Never pay for picks, analysis, etc., etc!

Don't be a fool!!

[pavyracer]

How convenient of him not to release the model? I bet you he flips coins the night before then hires a couple intern writers to sugarcoat the picks with a writeup and sells it to the sheep for hundreds. Like Fishhead said never buy anything from crooks.

[GRUMPERZ]

thanks guys for your help

best of luck to your picks tonight!!!

[20Four7]

grumperz no one knows his math model except for bob and god

why don't you try making your own instead of sitting here bashing him

There is a thread called what would bob do on another gambling site. They have cracked the dr. bob math model. They don't have all his situational analysis mind you. They post before bob and you can beat the dr bob steam. Google is your friend.

[ZBOIZ]

no

[ZBOIZ]

fuk Dr Bob and fuk u

[ZBOIZ]

[JohnnyC]

There is a thread called what would bob do on another gambling site. They have cracked the dr. bob math model. They don't have all his situational analysis mind you. They post before bob and you can beat the dr bob steam. Google is your friend.

Doesn't really exist, the numbers are back to what they were before release after 15 mins - wonder why?

[Hoja Verdes]

I'll break it down for everyone here...

Dr. Bob is one of the most controversial topics in our hobby/industry, so I thought I'd just deliver straight facts for everyone here in a simple unbiased manner.

FACTS:

Dr. Bob is a better handicapper [going by "honest' units bet (all bets accounted for)] over any 5+ year period in the last 20 years than the majority of the people on this board.

Dr. Bob is one the VERY few paid touts that actually has the numbers to back up the simple claim of all touts: "over time my bets will win you money and qualify as a sound investment of your money."

Dr. Bob has been 'off his game' for 18 months in NCAAF now, the sport that created all the 'buzz' when he hit 70% in 2004.

Dr. Bob's games have massive, *predictable* steam behind them. In years past, if you didn't get your bets down ahead of the steam, you ended up with most of your bets being at a bad number and/or a bad price, and that was the chance you took to play his games.

Beginning last year, maybe even in 2007, we began to see the trend change, and could track an increased number of his bets that would retreat back to the original line between 5pm CST Thursday (his release) and gametime on Saturday.

This year, especially the last few weeks when he's done better, you can bet almost all of his bets at the same, or even better, number/price than the original line. Some bets have still been at a worse number, but usually it's a negligible and very minor unless the bet was around a key number.

As long as if you have at least a few decent offshore books (with majority of your balance at matchbook), you CAN use Bob's plays as a seasonal strategy to burn through rollovers much more quickly than if you simply tried to scalp bad lines and 'guess' which way lines will move throughout the week. If Bob heats back up over a sustained period, you can expect the trend to again reverse itself and make it very hard to ever get a better number/price than the original line.

Dr. Bob is not a 'quick fix' or a short-term solution to your own personal losing streak. You can't simply hop on the train when you need a lift and expect to go 5-2 and chase your own losses. You have just as good a chance of going 2-5. You must understand variance, and you must understand that all he does is claim to be a lifetime winner that has 'bad streaks' like everyone else. If it were any other way, we'd all quit our jobs, move to vegas, and become professional gamblers until the day someone paid a hitman to silence Bob so that the casinos don't go bankrupt.

Read his write-ups, and then compare them to the usual horseshi* you read from Brandon Lang, hear on the radio, or even read on...dare I say it...internet message boards. Are you really trying to throw him in the pile with all the total jackasses in the world?

Bob's not trying to be better than you, or anyone else personally. He's not one of the usual ego-maniac know-it-alls we see here/there/everywhere all the time. He has a business, sells a service, and his customer base is made up of mostly repeat customers (whereas most touts have customers for less than a year...wonder why?) His customers do not believe he is the Dalai Lama or the leader of some cult that has brainwashed them. So why do his customers stay with him? There could be only one reason. For them, his plays are a better investment than their own, and over time, are a profitable investment that can be 'graded' and tracked against other investments, resulting in the average return that the average person would consider a 'very good' investment.

If you can beat Bob, he and I would both say, "awesome, congrats man, just keep putting your money where your mouth is, and let her f'n rip for a few years. practice flawless money management. good luck with that, hope you kill it."

[pavyracer]

My thinking is if you can't cap the games yourself at a 50% rate or better you have no business in sports gambling. Stats will take you so far. What you need to understand is game strategy, mismatches and motivation of teams to win. You can't put motivation in any model that uses previous stats as the primary means of predicting games. When you master all this by yourself touts are becoming irrelevant in your betting plan strategy. Also pick your spots. Wager more in games you have the best confidence and less in games you don't have a good read.

[Hoja Verdes]

[/B]My thinking is if you can't cap the games yourself at a 50% rate or better you have no business in sports gambling.[/B] Stats will take you so far. What you need to understand is game strategy, mismatches and motivation of teams to win. You can't put motivation in any model that uses previous stats as the primary means of predicting games. When you master all this by yourself touts are becoming irrelevant in your betting plan strategy. Also pick your spots. Wager more in games you have the best confidence and less in games you don't have a good read.

I wholeheartedly agree in principle. But unfortunately, the only reason this 'industry' exists in its current form is because the great majority of people cannot pick 50%, or even worse, CAN pick 50% but have such poor money management and discipline that they still manage to lose tons of money.

As far as what you call 'stats' go, I'd respond that any subjective analysis of anything whatsoever is, at the end of the day, a statistic....which is combined with other subjective evaluations to arrive at a decision (bet). You're essentially saying "the problem with most people is that they suck. the key is being good," which is of course a true statement. :cheers

[GETMONEYKID]

dr bob couldn't pick his own nose out of a paper bag

[Sam Odom]

Might make more $$$ with John Morrison

[Scorpion]

Should I purchase a Dr Bob subscription?

No, you are stooopid if you do but if you do please PM me the picks
thank you very much

[GETMONEYKID]

always bet on bob

[blackbart]

dr. bob used to provide a math model analysis of every game, access to this page was at some point limited to subscribers. idk if he still provides this to subscribers, i would agree he seems to get in trouble when he goes against his own model.