How would the COLLEGE FB World Embrace this? :: What if the SEC...

Sam Odom · 10-22-09, 06:55 AM

Bump for the morning crew

hoopster42 · 10-22-09, 06:57 AM

well, it hasn't happened EVER (east and west sec champs 1 & 2 going into sec champ gm) in the history of the bcs (dating back to 1998) so lets not jump the gun and assume its gona happen this season either.

Fishhead · 10-22-09, 07:13 AM

Originally posted by hoopster42

well, it hasn't happened EVER (east and west sec champs 1 & 2 going into sec champ gm) in the history of the bcs (dating back to 1998) so lets not jump the gun and assume its gona happen this season either.

Gators probably lose this weekend......

hoopster42 · 10-22-09, 07:15 AM

Originally posted by Fishhead

Gators probably lose this weekend......

to miss state? no, not this wknd. i know miss st is improved and their hc was the gators oc last few yrs but no, they wont beat the gators bud

Sam Odom · 10-22-09, 07:15 AM

All conferences that have a post reg season champ game should do this

hoopster42 · 10-22-09, 07:17 AM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

All conferences that have a post reg season champ game should do this

no, i disagree. thats like saying michigan and ohio st should not have played the final reg season gm in 06 when they were both undefeated and were #1 and #2 so they could meet in the bcs title gm instead. you play the gms on your sched and if you are in a conf where there is a champ game than you go and play it. sorry, no choice here

you either play a conf title gm or you do not. the conf's that chose to play a champ gm were too big (12 teams usually) so they had to split into 2 divisions and now they make tons of extra money on the conf gm. you cant have it both ways. if you have a conf gm and want the extra money, you cant pick and choose when you play one and when you do not

Sam Odom · 10-22-09, 07:24 AM

There is a difference is a reg season game and a conference playoff game.

LT Profits · 10-22-09, 07:25 AM

Welll, a LOT has to happen, but if Florida and Alabama both stay unbeaten and 1-2 in the BCS, and then have an epic battle in the SEC Champuinship decided by, say, three points or less, and Texas loses one game, then there is a chance Gators and Tide could have a rematch in the national title game. It depends on the gap between the number 2 and number 3 teams entering the SEC championship.

A one-loss Florida or Alabama team with the loss coming in the SEC Championship is more worthy to play for the national title than an undefeated Iowa, Boise, Cincy or TCU team or a one-loss Texas team. It all depends on how heavily SOS is weighted in the BCS computer rankings. The BIGGEST problem though is that Texas may not lose a game. Oklahoma may have been their best chance at a loss.

hoopster42 · 10-22-09, 07:26 AM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

There is a difference is a reg season game and a conference playoff game.

the premise is the same, are you saying that mich-ohio st in 06 when it was #1 vs #2 in the final gm of the season for both teams was no a big deal?

teams who play in conferences which are split into 2 divisions are at a huge advantage in the reg season because they dont have to play everyone else in the conference. if florida and bama were not in 2 different divisions, they would have to play every yr and there you go, theres your meeting and this nonsense about no conf champ game is gone

do you get it?

hoopster42 · 10-22-09, 07:28 AM

if i have to explain why a conf champ game is advantageous to teams in the SEC, Big 12, etc, because they dont have to face EVERY TEAM in their conf during the reg season then i am wasting my time here

hoopster42 · 10-22-09, 07:28 AM

LT remember 96 when florida played fsu in the final gm of the season and again in the natl championship gm in the sugar bowl

Sam Odom · 10-22-09, 07:28 AM

LT , the problem with a re-match is what if the other team wins then the two would be 1-1 v. each other needing a 3rd game

Sam Odom · 10-22-09, 07:33 AM

hoop, it is not like a conference would be skipping or canceling the playoff game, just changing the venue to a larger stage

LT Profits · 10-22-09, 07:33 AM

Originally posted by hoopster42

the premise is the same, are you saying that mich-ohio st in 06 when it was #1 vs #2 in the final gm of the season for both teams was no a big deal?

teams who play in conferences which are split into 2 divisions are at a huge advantage in the reg season because they dont have to play everyone else in the conference. if florida and bama were not in 2 different divisions, they would have to play every yr and there you go, theres your meeting and this nonsense about no conf champ game is gone

do you get it?

It was and usually is a big deal, yes. But it is still not the equivalent of a championship "playoff". You can't cancel a regular season game and go right to the BCS Championship Game, whereas you have more of a case with conference championships when the teams are 1-2 in the country.

hoopster42 · 10-22-09, 07:34 AM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

LT , the problem with a re-match is what if the other team wins then the two would be 1-1 v. each other needing a 3rd game

no, in 96 the fsu seminoles beat fla in the final gm of the season then met in the sugar bowl for the natl title and the gators ran them out of the building and spurrier won his first natl title that yr

hoopster42 · 10-22-09, 07:35 AM

do you guys not understand that florida and bama THIS YEAR are at a HUGE advantage over other conferences who do not have a champ gm because bama and florida do not have to play during the reg season? do you understand this?

LT Profits · 10-22-09, 07:36 AM

Originally posted by hoopster42

LT remember 96 when florida played fsu in the final gm of the season and again in the natl championship gm in the sugar bowl

I don't think it was the last game of the regular season, but yes they did play during the year, and if my memory serves me right I think the regular season game ended in a tie?

LT Profits · 10-22-09, 07:37 AM

Maybe we are thinking about different years hoopster.

Sam Odom · 10-22-09, 07:38 AM

Side issue: Would or could the NCAA prohibit a conference from enacting such a rule?

LT Profits · 10-22-09, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by hoopster42

LT remember 96 when florida played fsu in the final gm of the season and again in the natl championship gm in the sugar bowl

OK, you are right about 1996, I was thinking about 1994 when they tied 31-31 during the season and then Florida State won the rematch in the Sugar Bowl.

hoopster42 · 10-22-09, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by LT Profits

OK, you are right about 1996, I was thinking about 1994 when they tied 31-31 during the season and then Florida State won the rematch in the Sugar Bowl.

and it WAS the last gm of the yr in 96, back in those days fla-fsu always played the last gm of the yr

hoopster42 · 10-22-09, 08:28 AM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

Side issue: Would or could the NCAA prohibit a conference from enacting such a rule?

ABSOLUTELY, i bet there is already this rule in place by the ncaa

Willie Bee · 10-22-09, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

Side issue: Would or could the NCAA prohibit a conference from enacting such a rule?

I'm not sure if the NCAA could step in and force a conference to play its conference championship until they forced ALL conferences to have one in the first place.

However, the TV network holding the contract to televise the game certainly could step in and force the issue, or recoup millions in damages from the violation of the contract.

Sam Odom · 10-22-09, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by Willie Bee

However, the TV network holding the contract to televise the game certainly could step in and force the issue, or recoup millions in damages from the violation of the contract.

BINGO!!

This will never happen then. CBS would shitt if they missed the SEC Champ game

Willie Bee · 10-22-09, 09:35 AM

I remember when Tom Osborne was against the idea of the Big 12 having a conference championship, arguing that it could keep a team (like Kansas St in 1998 for example) from playing in the National Championship game. Someone reminded Osborne that while he might know a lot about football, he had no understanding of accounting and the bottom line.

jackpot269 · 10-22-09, 09:37 AM

What was the gaytors last year in the sec camp game Ala was no. 1

hoopster42 · 10-22-09, 10:08 AM

Originally posted by jackpot269

What was the gaytors last year in the sec camp game Ala was no. 1

they were #4 in the BCS i believe, possibly #3 in both AP and USA today polls though, OU was #2 in bcs, ap, usatoday

tada!

hoopster42 · 10-24-09, 05:58 PM

sorry bama, you fukkers need to go to the sec title gm and beat florida before you can get automatically put into the bcs title gm

i'm not very impressed