[k13]

Washington
Seattle
Indy
Minny

A Lot might change by the time the season starts but want to get a feel for what some people think as of now.

Not how many games you think they'll win but what the o/u win total will be posted by books.

[ChiLLx]

Wash 8.5 (depends on RG3 injury though)
Sea 10.5
Ind 8 (books know the Colts suck)
Minn 8

[k13]

The Redskins one interests me, if RG3 is healthy.

9 would be nice but almost too good to be true. Even 8.5 sounds high to me...

[milwaukee mike]

vikings over/under 1

suck it bigday

[easyliving]

skins 8
Colts 8
Seattle 10
Vikings 7.5

[seaborneq]

Washington
Seattle
Indy
Minny

A Lot might change by the time the season starts but want to get a feel for what some people think as of now.

Not how many games you think they'll win but what the o/u win total will be posted by books.

Skins 7.5
Seattle 8
Indy 7.5
Minny 7

None of these teams win their divisions or make the playoffs next year. One year wonders at their best.

[k13]

Skins 7.5
Seattle 8
Indy 7.5
Minny 7

None of these teams win their divisions or make the playoffs next year. One year wonders at their best.

Give some credit, 3 of the best QB's in the NFL.....can only get better.....

[easyliving]

Skins 7.5
Seattle 8
Indy 7.5
Minny 7

None of these teams win their divisions or make the playoffs next year. One year wonders at their best.

the seahawks are no flukes. solid defense and an exciting QB as well as Lynch. However you are right 8 seems like the better number they did win a bunch of close games that could have gone either way this season. They probably will be an 8-8 9-7 team at best next year as things always balance out

[k13]

Redskins Schedule - Absolute Rapeige....

Dallas x2
Philly x2
Giants x2
Green Bay
San Francisco
Chicago
San Diego
Atlanta
Denver
Minessota
Detroit
K.C.
Oakland

[MoneyLineDawg]

Redskins: 9
Seahawks: 10
Colts: 9
Vikings: 8.5

[MoneyLineDawg]

Skins 7.5
Seattle 8
Indy 7.5
Minny 7

None of these teams win their divisions or make the playoffs next year. One year wonders at their best.

LOL @ teams with ROOKIE QB's being one hit wonders.....It defies all logic

Not to mention they all had other rookies and young players throughout their starting lineups

Minnesota I'm not sold on, however.....

[ChiLLx]

Skins 7.5
Seattle 8
Indy 7.5
Minny 7

None of these teams win their divisions or make the playoffs next year. One year wonders at their best.

Agreed on all except Seahawks. Wilson was certainly not a fluke and they have plenty of young talent. Books showed a lot of respect for them by the end of the season/playoffs.

[seaborneq]

Seahawks were good, but won the all of their 50-50 games.

[El Nino]

Seahawks go 6-2 minimum at home. There is zero chance books hang anything near 8 or 8.5. I see 4 winnable road games, 5 depending on how the Giants turn out.

[ChiLLx]

Seahawks go 6-2 minimum at home. There is zero chance books hang anything near 8 or 8.5. I see 4 winnable road games, 5 depending on how the Giants turn out

My god that is an easy schedule. They get to play 3 dome teams at home then on the road the shitty Colts and Panthers, and a Falcons team they should've already beaten once in the playoffs. I see 10 wins at the minimum.

[Chi_archie]

gonna pound the Bears under

[El Nino]

My god that is an easy schedule. They get to play 3 dome teams at home then on the road the shitty Colts and Panthers, and a Falcons team they should've already beaten once in the playoffs. I see 10 wins at the minimum.

NFL.com has it listed as the 11th hardest strength of schedule according to opponents' record last season, but I agree that 10 should be attainable.

[seaborneq]

10 is attainable when opponents don't think you are any good, 8 is attainable when opponents give you their best shots each and every week. Seahawks will be some sharps super bowl pick. Not happening.

[GunShard]

Denver Over 10 wins.

[El Nino]

10 is attainable when opponents don't think you are any good, 8 is attainable when opponents give you their best shots each and every week. Seahawks will be some sharps super bowl pick. Not happening.

It's the NFL, not the NBA or MLB, every opponent gives you their best shot every week. You think teams enjoy going to Seattle to play? Place is the Bermuda Triangle. They run into problems when they travel to the east coast, especially if they play the early game.

[k13]

My god that is an easy schedule. They get to play 3 dome teams at home then on the road the shitty Colts and Panthers, and a Falcons team they should've already beaten once in the playoffs. I see 10 wins at the minimum.

I see 9-7.

I would only play the under at 9.5 or higher though. Not easy to win 10 games in the NFL.

[seaborneq]

I see 9-7.

I would only play the under at 9.5 or higher though. Not easy to win 10 games in the NFL.

No way Seahawks win 10 games.

[k13]

If someone offered me Redskins 10.5 (adjust juice) I would put a billion on it if I could.

[seaborneq]

[QUOTE=k13;17981996]If someone offered me Redskins 10.5 (adjust juice) I would put a billion on it if I could.[/QUOTE

I'm with you. I'll take skins under 10.5 too.

[Chi_archie]

when is RG3 expected to be back healthy?

[seaborneq]

when is RG3 expected to be back healthy?

He will start the season, but won't be 100% healthy, plus he will probably miss all of the mini camps and preseason games.

[davidmiru]

Denver Over 10 wins.

dont tell me

[k13]

when is RG3 expected to be back healthy?

Supposedly having a "miracle" recovery.

#1 Selling Jersey now.

Can't wait to see this win total, make it 9.5 please.....lol

[Kaabee]

Seahawks were good, but won the all of their 50-50 games.

not quite. check your calculations. all of their losses were by 7 or less. they were in position to win nearly all of them.

[seaborneq]

not quite. check your calculations. all of their losses were by 7 or less. they were in position to win nearly all of them.

Let's see. Seattle beat green bay on the fail mary, the terrible panthers 16-12, the pats on a late deep bomb, and the bears on two late long drives in regulation and ot. I would venture to say that at least 3 of those are 50-50 games that they won.

[Kaabee]

Let's see. Seattle beat green bay on the fail mary, the terrible panthers 16-12, the pats on a late deep bomb, and the bears on two late long drives in regulation and ot. I would venture to say that at least 3 of those are 50-50 games that they won.

you said they won them all. i merely pointed out that you happened to miss the 5 or 6 that they lost.

[greenhippo]

I think the Colts come in at 8.5. I would say pound the under, but like last year their schedule isn't too difficult. On paper it looks like it's one of the easier ones again.

[slacker00]

This might help:

2013 Strength of schedule
Team	SOS	Opponent record
Carolina Panthers	.543	138-116-2
Detroit Lions	.539	138-118-0
New Orleans Saints	.539	137-117-2
St. Louis Rams	.539	137-117-2
Baltimore Ravens	.535	137-119-0
Green Bay Packers	.533	136-119-1
Arizona Cardinals	.520	131-121-4
Miami Dolphins	.520	133-123-0
San Francisco 49ers	.520	132-122-2
Minnesota Vikings	.516	132-124-0
Seattle Seahawks	.516	130-122-4
Cincinnati Bengals	.508	130-126-0
Jacksonville Jaguars	.508	129-125-2
New England Patriots	.508	130-126-0
Atlanta Falcons	.504	128-126-0
Chicago Bears	.502	128-127-1
Tampa Bay Buccaneers	.500	127-127-2
Washington Redskins	.498	127-128-1
New York Jets	.496	127-129-0
Philadelphia Eagles	.496	127-129-0
Cleveland Browns	.492	126-130-0
Pittsburgh Steelers	.496	126-130-0
Tennessee Titans	.488	124-130-2
New York Giants	.480	123-133-0
Dallas Cowboys	.480	121-134-1
Buffalo Bills	.473	121-135-0
Houston Texans	.473	120-134-2
Kansas City Chiefs	.473	121-135-0
Oakland Raiders	.469	120-136-0
Indianapolis Colts	.461	117-137-2
San Diego Chargers	.457	117-139-0
Denver Broncos	.430	110-146-0

[k13]

SOS rankings are not very accurate.

This is supposedly the 18th toughest and under .500 SOS.

Week 1: Monday, Sept. 9, Philadelphia, 7 p.m.
Week 2: Sunday, Sept. 15, at Green Bay, 1 p.m.
Week 3: Sunday, Sept. 22, Detroit, 1 p.m.
Week 4: Sunday, Sept. 29, at Oakland, 4:25 p.m.
Week 5: BYE
Week 6: Sunday, Oct. 13, at Dallas, 8:30 p.m.
Week 7: Sunday, Oct. 20, Chicago, 1 p.m.
Week 8: Sunday, Oct. 27, at Denver, 4:25 p.m.
Week 9: Sunday, Nov. 3, San Diego, 1 p.m.
Week 10: Thursday, Nov. 7, at Minnesota, 8:25 p.m.
Week 11: Sunday, Nov. 17, at Philadelphia, 1 p.m.
Week 12: Monday, Nov. 25, San Francisco, 8:30 p.m.
Week 13: Sunday, Dec. 1, NY Giants, 8:30 p.m.
Week 14: Sunday, Dec. 8, Kansas City, 1 p.m.
Week 15: Sunday, Dec. 15, at Atlanta, 1 p.m.
Week 16: Sunday, Dec. 22, Dallas, 1 p.m.
Week 17: Sunday, Dec. 29, at NY Giants, 1 p.m.

Complete destruction.....

Rams had the toughest SOS last year and somehow did way better than the previous year.

[Frisco]

Let's see. Seattle beat green bay on the fail mary, the terrible panthers 16-12, the pats on a late deep bomb, and the bears on two late long drives in regulation and ot. I would venture to say that at least 3 of those are 50-50 games that they won.

They also lost really close games. Young team that matured as the season went along and added some good players in the offseason. Respect the avatar bro. He's poised for a huge season.