:grrr: 5dimes and their funny art of voiding bets

Yoshi · 03-06-07, 05:10 PM

5dimes looks worse every day, bullshit

jjgold · 03-06-07, 05:11 PM

most complaints from any book is by far 5 dimes

michael777 · 03-06-07, 05:31 PM

they have slipped a lot

BuddyBear · 03-06-07, 06:24 PM

what do you guys think...i was planning on sending them a cashier check for March Madness either tomorrow or Thursday?

Dark Horse · 03-06-07, 06:26 PM

Your money should be safe.

Your bets may not be, but hey... you can't have it all.

Or can you?

Justin7 · 03-06-07, 06:33 PM

Moonbeam -

It would have been better if 5Dimes caught their mistake, and cancelled your bet quickly.

They made a mistake. You compounded it by betting it. Buyer beware when betting bad lines.

Yoshi · 03-06-07, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by Justin7

They made a mistake. You compounded it by betting it. Buyer beware when betting bad lines.

If they changed the line in small steps, they CANT claim a bad line.
A bad line would be corrected immediatly, and not by changing it only a little bit...its bullshit sorry.

Dark Horse · 03-06-07, 06:45 PM

Is it just me, or are we hearing a lot of stories about bad lines at 5D?

Who do they have working there? Junkies?

VanWilson · 03-06-07, 07:10 PM

BuddyBear,

I think 5 dimes is a great level 2 book and you have nothing to worry about. They might have problems with bets once in a while, but your money is safe and they pay FAST.

If you don't like greek, cris or carib, then 5 dimes is as good as any level 2 book.

Stumpage · 03-06-07, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by Justin7

Moonbeam -

It would have been better if 5Dimes caught their mistake, and cancelled your bet quickly.

They made a mistake. You compounded it by betting it. Buyer beware when betting bad lines.

Yeah, sorry but I have to echo Yoshi's sentiments on this one and question the bad line claim. I've seen plently of bad lines, and at least in my experience, they usually are corrected quickly after being taken offline for a bit. Something like this, where Moonbeam states that the line gradually changed in periodic increments, seems to indicate that they are still taking action gradually throughout the day before somebody (God?) decided to hell with it, it's bad line time.

devilonline · 03-06-07, 07:42 PM

i think its very unfair to void a bet when we can't cancle a bet? that should be not possible for the bokies.

louis · 03-07-07, 01:18 AM

That is strange that they did not email you and tell you they were cancelling the bet.

This is simply totally unacceptable, and they need to be told this by not only you but SBR management as well.

raiders72002 · 03-07-07, 01:25 AM

Shot takers should be shot. Why would you take a shot that may put you in a lose/lose position? You knew better.

Call the book next time to make sure that the line is acceptable. If it's a bad line they may even throw you a bone for being honest.

Halo · 03-07-07, 01:57 AM

Originally posted by raiders72002

If it's a bad line they may even throw you a bone for being honest.

Alright lets not go crazy here... we are talking about 5Dimes

moonbeam · 03-07-07, 05:01 AM

I assumed that they will void the bet and normally I don´t buy bad lines.

But they lowered their line 4 times in little steps, so I trie it at 2.85.

I now have a email from them, threaten me that this can "eventually lead to lowering your betting limits"

Nice

wack · 03-07-07, 05:37 AM

Originally posted by Stumpage

Yeah, sorry but I have to echo Yoshi's sentiments on this one and question the bad line claim. I've seen plently of bad lines, and at least in my experience, they usually are corrected quickly after being taken offline for a bit. Something like this, where Moonbeam states that the line gradually changed in periodic increments, seems to indicate that they are still taking action gradually throughout the day before somebody (God?) decided to hell with it, it's bad line time.

Agree with that 100%. To see a line move in stages then a total void is total nonsense IMO. They just priced the game badly.

I suppose if they put lines up and they are run "remotely" I guess that's the only palatable excuse - i.e. the line is moved by a bot after each bet it takes, then they notice the weight of money on a Scottish Div 1 soccer match and see they put the wrong lines up to start with.

If they knew anything about Scottish Div 1 they may well have taken St J on last night, given that they are poor away from home and QoS were coming off the back of a massive 3-0 win away at Gretna. But that's another matter.

When the line moves in stages it does look like abuse of the palpable error rule, that's the bottom line.

wack · 03-07-07, 05:37 AM

Originally posted by Justin7

Moonbeam -

It would have been better if 5Dimes caught their mistake, and cancelled your bet quickly.

They made a mistake. You compounded it by betting it. Buyer beware when betting bad lines.

Also Justin, don't you agree that no email is unacceptable?

Value · 03-07-07, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by Yoshi

If they changed the line in small steps, they CANT claim a bad line.
A bad line would be corrected immediatly, and not by changing it only a little bit...its bullshit sorry.

Couldn't agree more. Well said

Santo · 03-07-07, 09:51 AM

I don't 100% agree, if the system that moved it in increments is automated. If it was a human moving it, then fair enough.

BuddyBear · 03-07-07, 01:26 PM

Thanks guys....

raiders72002 · 03-07-07, 03:47 PM

But they lowered their line 4 times in little steps, so I trie it at 2.85.

I now have a email from them, threaten me that this can "eventually lead to lowering your betting limits"

Santo beat me to the punch on the line changes being automated.

If you play a bad line at Pinny they will pay you most of the time if you demand it but will boot you afterwards.

Thrillseeker · 03-07-07, 05:51 PM

Bet it first & then ask them if the line is valid...

Many books will let your bet stand (if it's just a normal wager and you're not shoving your entire acct balance down their throat) and fix the line...if not, you get immediate cancellation of your bet and you don't have to wonder if it's gonna get cancelled 8 hrs later anyway...

katstale · 03-07-07, 08:02 PM

For sure, SBR should not be calling 5Dimes a "professional" players book. They have made it quite clear that they only want "recreational" players. The use of collars and delays is definitely the sign of a small time book. I think the reduced juice move was an "over reach" for them and now they are paying the price. Please reevaluate your review of them SBR.