sportsbook.com withdrawal delay...

**jstblaze** · 03-22-07, 10:20 AM

It i sobviously very hard to get a straight answer, but many service reps seem to suggest that no wires went out until friday or so of last week, and not even sure if that happened.

Trun, maybe they processed your withdrawal early last week, but it just didnt get sent out as wire, until monday. It is real hard to tell with these people.

Every one else I speak to, management at sites that represent sportsbook.com and advertise for them, say that they hav eno question that we will get our money.

They claim the delay is terrible, the lies and stalling are terrible, but they kno wthis company well, and see no chance they are going to do anything but pay us, just on their own slow time schedule.

TRUN, and anyone else who had wires supposedly sent. I wonder if you asked to have the money put back in your account what they would say. Obviously dont do it, just ask if they can. If they say yes, than we know that no wires were sent, becaus ethey just cant reverse it that easy, especially considering they cant track it.

**ShamsWoof10** · 03-22-07, 11:44 AM

20,000 checks to send out..? DAMN!!! Where is that guy that said a table of people can sit around and hand write them... NO WAY!! Anyway the reason why I am coming to their defense guys is because I have and usually are in their shoes with my helmets... I tell my client you will have them friday and I ASSUME my painter shipped them or nothing will going wrong... Something happens along the way to create a delay... Maybe a face mask or chin strap is out of stock that I thought I had but trust me when they keep calling me and stressing me out it makes things worse not better... As she said they don't lie they just exaggerate on purpose to buy time they need or by a misfortune beyond their control... Sh*t happens believe me... A positive note amoung many is the stories are the same now with everyone as opposed to before when they were differant from CSRep to CSRep...

**jstblaze** · 03-22-07, 11:54 AM

This is alot of days and customers for them to just be continually lying and saying that wires went out.

I know they lied about how long the delay was, and soem steps along the way, but they are really sticking to thi sstory now, so you woudl htink it is probably the truth.

At this point, if they were going to run with out loot, why hang around any longer. The added amount they are making, on top of the millions tehy are alreayd holding, is not worth the trouble at all.

They would have left before all the publicity that is surrounding this. ATthi spoint, it would be obvious fraud and they would be arrested. It is run by people who are bsuiness men, an dnot crooks.

**stylibet** · 03-22-07, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by jstblaze

This is alot of days and customers for them to just be continually lying and saying that wires went out.

I know they lied about how long the delay was, and soem steps along the way, but they are really sticking to thi sstory now, so you woudl htink it is probably the truth.

At this point, if they were going to run with out loot, why hang around any longer. The added amount they are making, on top of the millions tehy are alreayd holding, is not worth the trouble at all.

They would have left before all the publicity that is surrounding this. ATthi spoint, it would be obvious fraud and they would be arrested. It is run by people who are bsuiness men, an dnot crooks.

Arrested by whom? Who is sportsbook regulated by?

**teddy1224** · 03-22-07, 01:28 PM

********** Time Counton 5 Days!!

Well instead of sportsbook.com telling me 10-12 business days I am telling you and them.
They 5 days to have a sucsseful withdrawal system or it ********** time for me baby......

Good luck to all.

**jstblaze** · 03-22-07, 01:34 PM

You are not very rational person.

Unless you are at the 6 month limit for your CC **********, then you should stay away until you have confirmation sportsbook.com is not paying.

There is no sign yet that they wont pay. All the other books that ended up paying aftre a long delay, all went through a similar process.

**jstblaze** · 03-22-07, 01:37 PM

STYLIBET,

You dont have to be regulated to be arrested. They are not regulated as a company, but the management team and employees are still regulated by th egeneral laws.

Yes they can take your money and run, but if they can be indetified in anyway (they are all ex-sportingbet management) then when they take your money they can still be charged with theft and fraud. It is still criminally illegal to take out money, we just have no recourse for getting it back, but they can still be arrested very easily.

**Santo** · 03-22-07, 01:57 PM

You would have to prove personal liability vs corporate liability, which would be hard to do if they have any sense.

**increasedodds** · 03-22-07, 02:04 PM

There is no way Sportsbook.com has 20,000 active withdrawals going on right now.

I'd be surprised if they have 5000 active accounts.

Sean

**jstblaze** · 03-22-07, 02:05 PM

Just simply meant, unregulated, does not in any way mean that they can easily take everyones money and run.

They would have to leave the UK, they woul dhave to never again be indetified.

They are not regulated, but they are still a registered company, just a private one. If they, as persons, or as a company committ fraud or theft, and people involved are identifiable and located, then there will be consequences.

It doesnt mean we could get our money, it doesnt mean anything certain, but just caus eyou are a private company does not mean you can break the law without anything happening.

**fortunescore** · 03-22-07, 02:27 PM

Its time to get worried when:

1. Their website goes off-line
2. Their phone # gets disconnected
3. You gamble to the point where you need your money from Sportsbook.com to pay your monthly bills.

Anything else....and you are wasting your breath.

**echz** · 03-22-07, 02:32 PM

Latest update, thought I'd share ... (Received 3/22, 3:23pm) -- Looks like something might actually happen!

Dear Dave,

I am writing to inform you that we have reviewed your banking information.
Your pending withdrawal for $1155.00 should be sent on March, 23rd through bank wire.

If you have any questions or comments don’t hesitate to contact us and we will gladly assist you.

Best regards,

Lucas
MVP Program.

**teddy1224** · 03-22-07, 02:33 PM

Moto

Originally posted by fortunescore

Its time to get worried when:

1. Their website goes off-line
2. Their phone # gets disconnected
3. You gamble to the point where you need your money from Sportsbook.com to pay your monthly bills.

Anything else....and you are wasting your breath.

Fortunescore = MOTO

Master Of The Obvious.

**Bill Dozer** · 03-22-07, 07:52 PM

I'll be surprised if some of the guys who got on the wires early don't report receiving something by Monday.

I spoke with a manager today who says wires have actually gone out, but in low volume. This is the same person who told us last week that bank checks were not an option and that wires were not a sure thing for this week, which was very different from what the clerks had to say. He also believes checks will actually be processed early next week.

Let's hope we can confirm a payment this week!

**Joey12345** · 03-22-07, 07:56 PM

Boy....You guys are getting it hard with no lube.

**Starbuckibm** · 03-23-07, 07:40 AM

Was curious if anyone saw in wire transfers into their accounts this morning? I doubt so as a few went out late last week. So if they did send out like they are saying I think we will see the majority of them this coming week between Monday through Wednesday.

**jstblaze** · 03-23-07, 08:36 AM

Bill Dozer,

Thanks for the update. WHen this manager tells you that wires have gone out but in low volume, do you beleive him?

**fartikacular** · 03-23-07, 09:07 AM

withdrawal of $12,000

Thanks to my lucky ncaa tournament picks, my withdrawal of 12g was processed on March 20th via bank wire... i will keep you guys updated.

I havent had a problem with sportsbook.com yet.... patience.

Even though there are 9 pages for this thread, has ANYBODY received any money?

**Starbuckibm** · 03-23-07, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by fartikacular

Thanks to my lucky ncaa tournament picks, my withdrawal of 12g was processed on March 20th via bank wire... i will keep you guys updated.

I havent had a problem with sportsbook.com yet.... patience.

Even though there are 9 pages for this thread, has ANYBODY received any money?

Yes please do keep us posted....as for payouts from Sportsbook.com? No nobody has been paid in these nine pages of posts. If it was processed on the 20th then you should see it hit your bank anywhere from 7-10 business as that's what they are telling people. So you should see it towards the middle or the end of next week. We are waiting from a few others that should get their wires anywhere from Monday to Wednesday of next week to see if there will be any sign of life for withdraws.

**NeverForget911NY** · 03-23-07, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by Starbuckibm

Yes please do keep us posted....as for payouts from Sportsbook.com? No nobody has been paid in these nine pages of posts. If it was processed on the 20th then you should see it hit your bank anywhere from 7-10 business as that's what they are telling people. So you should see it towards the middle or the end of next week. We are waiting from a few others that should get their wires anywhere from Monday to Wednesday of next week to see if there will be any sign of life for withdraws.

Sportsbook.com and BetMania would be F books on every site if they didn't spend money advertising. Let's call a spade a spade. Most sponsor websited can't lose the big advertising money these frauds spend so they rate them C, C- etc. sometimes higher on the sites where they spend the most. I honestly would not use any book besides WSEX, Matchbook, or CRIS. Maybe Greek. all the others you are throwing money to the wind.

**jstblaze** · 03-23-07, 10:10 AM

Prior to this whole incident, which we still do not know the outcome of, everyone who used sportsbook.com had been pretty happy with them.

They have been around a long time and were pretty safe, only giving trouble to people if they tried to get multiple bonuses.

Do you not realize the opposite is also true, certain sites rate sportsbook.com a D or F because they are not given any advertsiing revenue.

We will see what happens. If a book can manage a problem this big, i think that is a strong sign that they are solid.

But, we will see what happens, they will show their true colors, one way or the other.

**BuddyBear** · 03-23-07, 10:11 AM

Damn this is the longest thread ever on SBR....

**jstblaze** · 03-23-07, 10:17 AM

MOst players feel pretty confident about bodog.com, and they get a pretty good rating across the board, but they have experienced delays just as long as the sportsbook.com delay.

It is juts how it is dealt with that is the problem and causing so much anxiety and worry.

People who were told their bodog payout was sent, in mid-february, are just getting paid.

They were told it was sent then. SPortsbook.com, just bgena saying they have started sending money. I think we still have some time and patince needed before we know what the deal is.

I guess we are all just hoping on player says they got their money, thne everyone will slowdown and relax a bit, and wait for their check or wire.

**echz** · 03-23-07, 10:54 AM

...not 30 seconds ago.

You: Has my current withdrawal been processed and sent?
Jim Anderson: Yes, $1,155.00 was sent today
You: Sent to my bank, or sent to your processor?
Jim Anderson: Your bank
You: And you're sure of this? What will be the timeframe that I will see my funds in my account?
Jim Anderson: Yes, I am sure
Jim Anderson: After the withdrawal is processed, the funds will be directly deposited into the customer's bank account within 5-7 business days.
You: So I should see my money at the latest, Friday of next week?
Jim Anderson: No, the latest would be the following tuesday
You: So the day it was sent doesn't count toward that 5-7 is what you're telling me ...
Jim Anderson: It is business days
You: Ok, so then, Today, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Monday is 7 business days correct? Not Tuesday...
Jim Anderson: The day it was sent does not count as a full business day
You: Ok thank you for your help.

So bear in mind that in their 5-7 day calculation, the day its sent isn't counted in that. Go figure.

**ShamsWoof10** · 03-23-07, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by NeverForget911NY

Sportsbook.com and BetMania would be F books on every site if they didn't spend money advertising. Let's call a spade a spade. Most sponsor websited can't lose the big advertising money these frauds spend so they rate them C, C- etc. sometimes higher on the sites where they spend the most. I honestly would not use any book besides WSEX, Matchbook, or CRIS. Maybe Greek. all the others you are throwing money to the wind.

Yeah of course I agree wtth Jst.. Hoax911NY YOU DONT REALIZE that sportsbook has been solid for years and IF this was only sportsbook going through this then I would agree but IT IS NOT and you know that... It's a D book on this site as well so you were off there but we have even read from people on here that Pinny. has had delays but no one brings that up here... Good points on the advertising working in reverse but if they are advertising here then they are getting ripped off by Dozer because they are getting a D rating for their advertising...

"9-11 is a joke in your town" Flava flave

**TRUN** · 03-23-07, 11:59 AM

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**TRUN** · 03-23-07, 12:08 PM

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**fartikacular** · 03-23-07, 12:57 PM

update

Over the past week, I have been trying to email cashier@efsplayerservices.com to inquire about my withdrawal. The email has finally returned and it is undeliverable. Anybody else having this issue?

**NeverForget911NY** · 03-23-07, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by ShamsWoof10

Yeah of course I agree wtth Jst.. Hoax911NY YOU DONT REALIZE that sportsbook has been solid for years and IF this was only sportsbook going through this then I would agree but IT IS NOT and you know that... It's a D book on this site as well so you were off there but we have even read from people on here that Pinny. has had delays but no one brings that up here... Good points on the advertising working in reverse but if they are advertising here then they are getting ripped off by Dozer because they are getting a D rating for their advertising...

"9-11 is a joke in your town" Flava flave

Good points, but if you think Sportsbook has been "solid for years", then I have to question your knowledge of the industry. Sportsbook.com has been a nightmare for years. Read other forums- Rx, MW, Covers, and Sportsbook has more negative posts then any major books. They have been inconsistent at best for years. Don't mention them in the same sentence as WSEX, The Greek, Matchbook - only books I will play at ever again. I don't even trust CRIS- which is considered top notch.

Most importantly- it's 1 person 1 opinion. It's only my opinion, certainly doesn't mean it's right.

I hope you're not making a joke of 9-11. Don't lower yourself to that. If you didn't lose relatives/friends consider yourself fortunate- but certainly don't make fun of those who did.

**jstblaze** · 03-23-07, 02:16 PM

The issues with sportsbook.com were alway customer service garbage, or they took some guys money who got thousands in bonus money.

They have not had staright no pay complaints that I know of until now, just sometimes slow pay. They were trusted in terms of payouts, just soemtimes a real pain in the ass.

TRUN, it may take longer, i know wires at other sites took up to 2 full weeks. And I still thinkthey didnt send your out until the end of that week you speak of, and maybe not until the next monday. Just a thought.

**ShamsWoof10** · 03-23-07, 02:50 PM

Originally posted by NeverForget911NY

Good points, but if you think Sportsbook has been "solid for years", then I have to question your knowledge of the industry. Sportsbook.com has been a nightmare for years. Read other forums- Rx, MW, Covers, and Sportsbook has more negative posts then any major books. They have been inconsistent at best for years. Don't mention them in the same sentence as WSEX, The Greek, Matchbook - only books I will play at ever again. I don't even trust CRIS- which is considered top notch.

Most importantly- it's 1 person 1 opinion. It's only my opinion, certainly doesn't mean it's right.

I hope you're not making a joke of 9-11. Don't lower yourself to that. If you didn't lose relatives/friends consider yourself fortunate- but certainly don't make fun of those who did.

Again I must agree with JST. on sportsbook past complaints and I too have used them for years getting checks of large amounts and never did it take more then three to four days... I still believe in them for now but we'll see... My brother has been an RX member for since 01' and has used sportsbook since then as well...

On the issue of 9-11 which probably deserves a thread of it's own; I am not making a joke of it at all... It is NEVER a joke to experience loss of life and I feel for those that did.. HOWEVER I am making a joke of the offical version and I am sorry for those who lost loved ones but this doesn't mean I believe the offical story as it is a conspiracy of it's own...

P.S. I have what I thought was the coolest decal ever worn on a helmet... The jets and pats wore the twin towers on the back of their helmets for a few weeks... I'll send you some free if you want...

**Bill Dozer** · 03-24-07, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by jstblaze

MOst players feel pretty confident about bodog.com, and they get a pretty good rating across the board, but they have experienced delays just as long as the sportsbook.com delay.

It is juts how it is dealt with that is the problem and causing so much anxiety and worry.

People who were told their bodog payout was sent, in mid-february, are just getting paid.

They were told it was sent then. SPortsbook.com, just bgena saying they have started sending money. I think we still have some time and patince needed before we know what the deal is.

I guess we are all just hoping on player says they got their money, thne everyone will slowdown and relax a bit, and wait for their check or wire.

Post-Neteller, this is the longest pure drought we have seen. I think we are going on 2 months without anyone getting a dime. One of the differences with Sportsbook.com books is they didn't try to get some small or temporary processors along the way. They thought they would just get another major player but obviously that never happened. There have been some very poor decisions leading up to this point. We know they have tried to pay... we just hope they keep trying and don't decide to say "screw it."

The wheels are in motion for payments to hit next week. I will be more concerned if the latest plan fails. At this time, I'm much more concerned about BetUS.

**Doug** · 03-24-07, 01:22 AM

Even if SB pays, they sure turned a lot of customers into former customers that will never return.

**pags11** · 03-24-07, 01:41 AM

why anyone plays with this crap book, I'm not sure...

**fartikacular** · 03-24-07, 12:43 PM

the latest from sportsbook.com....

well guys, here is my latest converstation via live help....

doesnt sound good...

Chat Information Please wait for a site operator to respond. Your chat should be answered within 1 seconds. Thank you for your patience.
Chat InformationHello, my name is Chloe Healy. How may I help you today?
You: hi chloe i just wanted to check on my withdrawal status
Chloe Healy: One moment please....
Chloe Healy: We apologize but we are having problems with bank wires to US banks
You: anyway of knowing when i will get my withdrawal?
Chloe Healy: We are sorry, perhaps 7-10 business days.
Chloe Healy: in the meantime, some bank wires to US bank are being held up, you withdrawal is not in a physical place
You: chloe this is troubling, will i get my money?
Chloe Healy: please allow 7-10 business days