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  • Git Lo
    SBR MVP
    • 02-20-11
    • 3785

    #36
    Originally posted by asiagambler
    Health concerns aside, Bronny actually does project to be a useful player

    He defends at a high level and his stock definitely ticked up with a strong combine

    Add to that just his mere presence on the bench will probably elevate LeBron's play (think Thanasis Antekounmpo)- especially on the defensive end, so it was really a no-brainer for the Lakers to pick him. Could have probably been done more lowkey without all the bluster and fanfare but well that's Lebron
    The guard position is comp, it will be interesting to see how his defense holds up with so many good guards. IMO no point in having him wait to get that exp they should throw him out there asap. Maybe he's still due for a growth spurt too who knows.
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    • JIBBBY
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 12-10-09
      • 83686

      #37
      Originally posted by asiagambler
      Health concerns aside, Bronny actually does project to be a useful player

      He defends at a high level and his stock definitely ticked up with a strong combine

      Add to that just his mere presence on the bench will probably elevate LeBron's play (think Thanasis Antekounmpo)- especially on the defensive end, so it was really a no-brainer for the Lakers to pick him. Could have probably been done more lowkey without all the bluster and fanfare but well that's Lebron
      Bit undersized no? I think he's getting a free ride off his pops name and influence mostly. No way he's a starter. They start him next year this team really will be crap then.
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      • mcaulay777
        SBR MVP
        • 09-13-10
        • 1769

        #38
        LeBron James the most selfish athlete is sports history and easily the most unlikeable i have not watched a single laker game since he moved to them James has 1 championship the year Cavs beat Warriors, Heat championships don't count he bought them because he brought in players to win and in 2020 that was a joke in a Bubble in Orlando give me a break if you think Lakers and Dodgers are a champion!
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        • Delicious
          SBR MVP
          • 04-26-11
          • 1006

          #39
          Originally posted by mcaulay777
          LeBron James the most selfish athlete is sports history and easily the most unlikeable i have not watched a single laker game since he moved to them James has 1 championship the year Cavs beat Warriors, Heat championships don't count he bought them because he brought in players to win and in 2020 that was a joke in a Bubble in Orlando give me a break if you think Lakers and Dodgers are a champion!
          40 year old Lebron taking a spot on the Olympics is all you need to know. Hopefully he gets hurt soon and can't do a full year of "it's my retirement season worship me" BS when he finally packs it in. Lakers will be lucky to make the playoffs in a packed west and all these sports writers keep talking about lebron
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          • Git Lo
            SBR MVP
            • 02-20-11
            • 3785

            #40
            Originally posted by Delicious
            40 year old Lebron taking a spot on the Olympics is all you need to know. Hopefully he gets hurt soon and can't do a full year of "it's my retirement season worship me" BS when he finally packs it in. Lakers will be lucky to make the playoffs in a packed west and all these sports writers keep talking about lebron
            Lakers org knows hes at the end thats why they drafted his son. They rather make history then gut the team or work around AD. JJ although smart makes a good fall guy, it will be another case of player not being a good coach.. the excuses are already there for when have another dud season.
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            • stevenash
              Moderator
              • 01-17-11
              • 65586

              #41
              Bronny James agent called out for lying (msn.com)
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              • mjsuax13
                Moderator
                • 03-14-15
                • 25096

                #42
                Dude- Rich Paul isn’t even really an agent. Hats off to him for building something off the back of Lebron and recruiting other players as a byproduct but who would take that guy seriously? Sure he has people signed and shit but NBA contracts are mostly fixed slots/salaries so what’s the negotiation? I don’t see anyone beyond Lebron getting lucrative endorsements from his work. Make no mistake though- Lebron getting paid off all of it. Let’s see what this guy does when Lebron is retired.
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                • asiagambler
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 07-23-17
                  • 6827

                  #43
                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                  Bit undersized no? I think he's getting a free ride off his pops name and influence mostly. No way he's a starter. They start him next year this team really will be crap then.
                  He is a bit lacking in height but makes up for it with his wingspan and good overall athleticism

                  A common comparison I see for him is GP II which isn't unrealistic at all

                  Plus he will have the best possible resources available to him to take it to the next level on the offensive side of the ball

                  I'd say the odds are slightly in his favour. And if not, then it's just a late 2nd round pick, most of them are busts anyway so it's not like the Lakers gave up much to draft him
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                  • asiagambler
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 07-23-17
                    • 6827

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Git Lo
                    The guard position is comp, it will be interesting to see how his defense holds up with so many good guards. IMO no point in having him wait to get that exp they should throw him out there asap. Maybe he's still due for a growth spurt too who knows.
                    Probably a hot take but I think he has a better chance of making an immediate impact than Knecht
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                    • IBetYou
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 07-03-15
                      • 8158

                      #45
                      Originally posted by asiagambler
                      Probably a hot take but I think he has a better chance of making an immediate impact than Knecht
                      Yeah, that's because his daddy's calling the shots. Some reporter just tweeted that the last 4 players drafted with the #55 pick got 2-way deals. Bronny gets 4 years, standard rookie deal. It's circumventing the CBA imo -should have been undrafted.
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                      • INVEGA MAN
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-30-08
                        • 6800

                        #46
                        Daddy just signed for 104 million for 2 years!!
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                        • unde0087
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 03-27-08
                          • 28952

                          #47
                          Originally posted by asiagambler
                          Probably a hot take but I think he has a better chance of making an immediate impact than Knecht
                          , Bronny couldn't hold Knecht jock strap.
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                          • gauchojake
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 09-17-10
                            • 34113

                            #48
                            Originally posted by asiagambler
                            He is a bit lacking in height but makes up for it with his wingspan and good overall athleticism

                            A common comparison I see for him is GP II which isn't unrealistic at all

                            Plus he will have the best possible resources available to him to take it to the next level on the offensive side of the ball

                            I'd say the odds are slightly in his favour. And if not, then it's just a late 2nd round pick, most of them are busts anyway so it's not like the Lakers gave up much to draft him
                            GP II ran with the G League though until he got his shot. They don't want Bronny anywhere near the G League for some reason.
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                            • asiagambler
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 07-23-17
                              • 6827

                              #49
                              Originally posted by IBetYou
                              Yeah, that's because his daddy's calling the shots. Some reporter just tweeted that the last 4 players drafted with the #55 pick got 2-way deals. Bronny gets 4 years, standard rookie deal. It's circumventing the CBA imo -should have been undrafted.
                              Yeah but also saw some other players picked around there got similar deals to Bronny? I don't know what goes into those contracts for later picks, seems some are 2-way deals, some are not... It's probably just an ego thing with Bron (senior)
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                              • asiagambler
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 07-23-17
                                • 6827

                                #50
                                Originally posted by unde0087
                                , Bronny couldn't hold Knecht jock strap.
                                NBA much different from college. Despite the reputation the league has, you still need to be able to defend. I don't know much about Knecht and how well he is on that end of the floor but I'd imagine if he was good at it, he wouldn't have dropped all the way to 17th in an historically weak draft
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                                • unde0087
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 03-27-08
                                  • 28952

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by asiagambler
                                  NBA much different from college. Despite the reputation the league has, you still need to be able to defend. I don't know much about Knecht and how well he is on that end of the floor but I'd imagine if he was good at it, he wouldn't have dropped all the way to 17th in an historically weak draft
                                  Well I saw plenty of him last season. Especially when he faced my favorite team UNC. UNC had their elite defender on him most of the game and he still lit them up for I think it was 37. He can shoot the lights out from deep and can score inside amongst the trees. He has proven to be a star and I have no doubt he will do it at the pro level. The guy started playing in the Big Sky conference and worked his ass off to end as an All American on a top team. And defense in the NBA, that is a laugh. If anyone was playing defense in that league totals would be up 40 or 50 points a game in the past few years.

                                  Fact is anyone touting Bronny is just drinking the koolaid or is being paid by LeBron because he sure hasn't shown anything in any game that warrants being a starter on a top NCAA team let alone NBA. If you are going to throw out a statement, like you did, there better be more behind it than a handful of scouts having a circle jerk at a workout. Or that a few of LeBron's friends were impressed. Fact is, the kid hasn't done a damn thing to be where he is and it will show. You might be right about one thing, a weak NBA draft, if this kid was selected.
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                                  • unde0087
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 03-27-08
                                    • 28952

                                    #52
                                    If his last name wasn't James, he would be just another kid who should have stayed in school, who sat at home through the draft never hearing his name called. Face it, even with his name, the only team that was picking him was team daddy.
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                                    • 2Sweeet
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 08-31-22
                                      • 1235

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by asiagambler
                                      Health concerns aside, Bronny actually does project to be a useful player

                                      He defends at a high level and his stock definitely ticked up with a strong combine

                                      Add to that just his mere presence on the bench will probably elevate LeBron's play (think Thanasis Antekounmpo)- especially on the defensive end, so it was really a no-brainer for the Lakers to pick him. Could have probably been done more lowkey without all the bluster and fanfare but well that's Lebron
                                      Stfu and go make a Smashed Cucumber Salad. The Msg over the years has fcked your mind up.
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                                      • asiagambler
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 07-23-17
                                        • 6827

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by unde0087
                                        Well I saw plenty of him last season. Especially when he faced my favorite team UNC. UNC had their elite defender on him most of the game and he still lit them up for I think it was 37. He can shoot the lights out from deep and can score inside amongst the trees. He has proven to be a star and I have no doubt he will do it at the pro level. The guy started playing in the Big Sky conference and worked his ass off to end as an All American on a top team. And defense in the NBA, that is a laugh. If anyone was playing defense in that league totals would be up 40 or 50 points a game in the past few years.

                                        Fact is anyone touting Bronny is just drinking the koolaid or is being paid by LeBron because he sure hasn't shown anything in any game that warrants being a starter on a top NCAA team let alone NBA. If you are going to throw out a statement, like you did, there better be more behind it than a handful of scouts having a circle jerk at a workout. Or that a few of LeBron's friends were impressed. Fact is, the kid hasn't done a damn thing to be where he is and it will show. You might be right about one thing, a weak NBA draft, if this kid was selected.
                                        Forget about Bronny then, why did Knecht drop so far when he led the SEC in scoring? There has to be a reason, can't just be that he's old. It's simple, he's a 1 way player. My point still stands, defense is important, especially in the playoffs. Just look at how low scoring the games were this past season

                                        You guys with your hate for LeBron take this stuff way too personally. I don't care what happens to Bronny, of course he didn't deserve to get drafted and the guaranteed contract. It's all nepotism but I'm just trying to make observations that aren't based on emotions.
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                                        • IBetYou
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 07-03-15
                                          • 8158

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by asiagambler
                                          Forget about Bronny then, why did Knecht drop so far when he led the SEC in scoring? There has to be a reason, can't just be that he's old. It's simple, he's a 1 way player. My point still stands, defense is important, especially in the playoffs. Just look at how low scoring the games were this past season

                                          You guys with your hate for LeBron take this stuff way too personally. I don't care what happens to Bronny, of course he didn't deserve to get drafted and the guaranteed contract. It's all nepotism but I'm just trying to make observations that aren't based on emotions.
                                          You're saying this because he's white! Plenty of that around on the TV networks, we don't need people on SBR doing it as well ty. Why don't you read a scouting report? Jay Bilas called him a 3&D guard. Reason he slipped was personality. Most employers consider this important in any job. Seemed like a nervous/ awkward guy in the draft night interview, to me.

                                          Cam Whitmore slipped last year for the same reason -a mercurial type. Bad interviews seem to be the most common cause for slipping in the draft, after injury concerns. Things like aloofness or nervousness don't go down well.
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                                          • asiagambler
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 07-23-17
                                            • 6827

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by IBetYou
                                            You're saying this because he's white! Plenty of that around on the TV networks, we don't need people on SBR doing it as well ty. Why don't you read a scouting report? Jay Bilas called him a 3&D guard. Reason he slipped was personality. Most employers consider this important in any job. Seemed like a nervous/ awkward guy in the draft night interview, to me.

                                            Cam Whitmore slipped last year for the same reason -a mercurial type. Bad interviews seem to be the most common cause for slipping in the draft, after injury concerns. Things like aloofness or nervousness don't go down well.
                                            No I'm saying this because he can't defend

                                            I'd have to know in what context Bilas said that... more that he projects as a 3&D ?

                                            I've read that he had a good defensive team around him but he lacked good defensive instincts himself and most importantly- lacked lateral quickness to stay in front of guards

                                            But if you want to bring race into it, Lakers seem to know what they're doing with the white guys they pick up (Caruso, Reaves) so he has that going for him lol
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                                            • IBetYou
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 07-03-15
                                              • 8158

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by asiagambler

                                              NBA much different from college. Despite the reputation the league has, you still need to be able to defend. I don't know much about Knecht and how well he is on that end of the floor but I'd imagine if he was good at it, he wouldn't have dropped all the way to 17th in an historically weak draft
                                              Originally posted by asiagambler

                                              No I'm saying this because he can't defend

                                              I'd have to know in what context Bilas said that... more that he projects as a 3&D ?

                                              I've read that he had a good defensive team around him but he lacked good defensive instincts himself and most importantly- lacked lateral quickness to stay in front of guards

                                              But if you want to bring race into it, Lakers seem to know what they're doing with the white guys they pick up (Caruso, Reaves) so he has that going for him lol
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                                              You're saying it because you can imagine he can't defend. Don't be silly now.
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                                              • asiagambler
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 07-23-17
                                                • 6827

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by IBetYou
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                                                You're saying it because you can imagine he can't defend. Don't be silly now.
                                                Not being silly you're just being pedantic

                                                Do I need to qualify everything I say that's clearly an opinion ?

                                                No different from you saying "You're saying this because he's white!" or "Reason he slipped was because of personality" etc. etc. You're saying these things because that's how you imagine them to be. But I won't accuse you of being silly for that
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