Can anyone tell me what's the big hype behind Carlos Alcaraz?

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  • arie1985
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    • 03-19-08
    • 1635

    #1
    Can anyone tell me what's the big hype behind Carlos Alcaraz?
    He reminds me of David Nalbandian, an Argentine tennis player who many times had his opponents awarded with inflated odds by the bookmakers ...

    Alcaraz is definitely not a top player, he can beat lower ranked ones, but he's just a loser in general, time and time again, if anyone relies on this guy to win a grand slam - even prayers won't help



    Still, I'm surprised why the bookies treat this guy like a golden goose, offering his opponent high odds as if they stand no chance against someone with a proven losing record.
  • Optional
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    • 06-10-10
    • 61517

    #2
    One might be a fluke, but he does have two slam titles.
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    • JAKEPEAVY21
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      • 03-11-11
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      #3
      Ridiculous to say he is not a top player and loser in general
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      • pavyracer
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        • 04-12-07
        • 82818

        #4
        I don't remember Nalbandian winning majors when he was 20 years old. Do you?
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        • arie1985
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          • 03-19-08
          • 1635

          #5
          Originally posted by pavyracer
          I don't remember Nalbandian winning majors when he was 20 years old. Do you?
          Yes, you're right about that, but I don't regard it as something extraordinary, especially when Covid was a factor involved (e.g. Djokovic was refused to play and many others as well).

          I think the comparison with Nalbandian is a good comparison.
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          • Maizey
            SBR High Roller
            • 08-11-18
            • 226

            #6
            Nalbandian: 14 year career, 11 titles, 0 majors
            Alcaraz: 5 year career (so far), 12 titles, 2 majors

            Nalbandian was a very good player. Alcaraz is a hall-of-famer in the making. The only question is whether he can stay healthy. If he plays 14 years, you can do the math, it will be an impressive resume.

            BTW, I’m a huge Djoker fan and don’t want to see anybody challenge his GOAT status, but if there’s anybody out there that can, it’s Alcaraz. Of course, that would take being healthy, motivated and able to maintain his top level skills for two decades or more. That’s highly unlikely, for sure.
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            • Itsamazing777
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              • 11-14-12
              • 12602

              #7
              I feel like your mad he lost. It happens.
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              • homie1975
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                • 12-24-13
                • 15452

                #8
                he is only 20.

                relax.

                kid is a superstar.

                Sascha played big.

                move on.
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                • homie1975
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                  • 12-24-13
                  • 15452

                  #9
                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                  I don't remember Nalbandian winning majors when he was 20 years old. Do you?

                  he won ZERO !!!

                  only made it to ONE final and lost.

                  he was good for just 5 calendar years. 2002 thru 2006.

                  outside of that he was average.
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                  • stevenash
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                    • 01-17-11
                    • 65566

                    #10
                    Originally posted by arie1985
                    He reminds me of David Nalbandian, an Argentine tennis player who many times had his opponents awarded with inflated odds by the bookmakers ...

                    Alcaraz is definitely not a top player, he can beat lower ranked ones, but he's just a loser in general, time and time again, if anyone relies on this guy to win a grand slam - even prayers won't help



                    Still, I'm surprised why the bookies treat this guy like a golden goose, offering his opponent high odds as if they stand no chance against someone with a proven losing record.
                    And I remember 3 years ago the so-called tennis experts were calling Carlos Alcarez Nadal Jr and the next big thing from Spain.

                    One thing I learned along the way is that 'can't miss' and 'next big thing' labels usually turn into the kiss of death.

                    He's good, but hardly 'all that'.
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                    • homie1975
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                      • 12-24-13
                      • 15452

                      #11
                      Carlito had a rough night getting bounced early in the US Open tonight but he is still a SUPERSTAR
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                      • Mac4Lyfe
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-04-09
                        • 48383

                        #12
                        Lost in straight sets. That was weird. -20000 fave. I hope no one had any money on him.
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                        • Conqueror
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                          • 12-08-13
                          • 16778

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                          Lost in straight sets. That was weird. -20000 fave. I hope no one had any money on him.
                          Wondering what the 0-3 set odds were.
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                          • homie1975
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                            • 12-24-13
                            • 15452

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Conqueror
                            Wondering what the 0-3 set odds were.
                            off the board probably. would have been -100,000
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                            • homie1975
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-24-13
                              • 15452

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Optional
                              One might be a fluke, but he does have two slam titles.
                              now 4 !
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                              • Mac4Lyfe
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                                • 01-04-09
                                • 48383

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Conqueror
                                Wondering what the 0-3 set odds were.
                                I think it was +3300 for the underdog, which seems very low. I would think more like +33000 in straight sets. I’ve never heard of that guy nor could I spell his name.
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                                • wombat
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-23-20
                                  • 1022

                                  #17
                                  Why do you guys keep saying Alcaraz has two grand slams…. He has four grand slam titles.

                                  OP is obviously out of touch with the tennis world of the past five years.
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                                  • DrunkHorseplayer
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 05-15-10
                                    • 7719

                                    #18
                                    4 majors at the age of 21 and for the time being, it doesn't look like he has another powerhouse to deal with ala Fed/Joker/Nadal. Could end up breaking Joker's record.
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                                    • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                      • 03-11-11
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                                      #19
                                      This thread is going to be similar to slayer's thread awhile back that Djokovic would not win another major....I think he has 10+ since
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                                      • Optional
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                                        • 06-10-10
                                        • 61517

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by wombat
                                        Why do you guys keep saying Alcaraz has two grand slams…. He has four grand slam titles.

                                        OP is obviously out of touch with the tennis world of the past five years.
                                        He only had two slams in January when the thread started.
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                                        • wombat
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                                          • 11-23-20
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Optional
                                          He only had two slams in January when the thread started.
                                          Got it, didn’t notice the date.
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                                          • Doug tushyterror
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                                            • 07-03-12
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                                            #22
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                                            • DonnieBrasco23
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                                              • 11-06-23
                                              • 1137

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Optional
                                              He only had two slams in January when the thread started.
                                              Thanks for clarifying
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                                              • Doug tushyterror
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                                                • 07-03-12
                                                • 4172

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by homie1975

                                                off the board probably. would have been -100,000
                                                It's now or never for Grigor



                                                Originally posted by homie1975

                                                now 4 !
                                                Originally posted by wombat
                                                Why do you guys keep saying Alcaraz has two grand slams…. He has four grand slam titles.

                                                OP is obviously out of touch with the tennis world of the past five years.
                                                Originally posted by Optional

                                                He only had two slams in January when the thread started.
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                                                • homie1975
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                                                  • 12-24-13
                                                  • 15452

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Doug tushyterror
                                                  It's now or never for Grigor
                                                  good luck bro but there are still at least 5 guys out there better than Grigor
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                                                  • lonegambler23
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                                                    • 06-22-16
                                                    • 9760

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by homie1975
                                                    good luck bro but there are still at least 5 guys out there better than Grigor
                                                    eh idk about that. if novak gets out thatll help even more
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                                                    • lonegambler23
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                                                      • 06-22-16
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                                                      #27
                                                      hmmm bye bye novak.
                                                      grigor +15k COME ON!
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                                                      • johnnyvegas13
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                                                        • 05-21-15
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                                                        #28
                                                        Lotta upset in tennis lately
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                                                        • Doug tushyterror
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                                                          • 07-03-12
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by homie1975
                                                          good luck bro but there are still at least 5 guys out there better than Grigor
                                                          It's a longshot homie but I won back the $2500 to freeroll it. Just got 50% less long with Novak out down to 40-1. Rublev is tough but certainly winnable with the way Grigor's been serving. Avoids Novak in the QFs (1-13 H2H) to face either Foe/Popyrin. Knowing this is his last legit shot at a Slam, I doubt he's fukking that up. I'll then worry about the SFs & Finals (no Alca) in due time.

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                                                          • homie1975
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                                                            • 12-24-13
                                                            • 15452

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Doug tushyterror
                                                            It's a longshot homie but I won back the $2500 to freeroll it. Just got 50% less long with Novak out down to 40-1. Rublev is tough but certainly winnable with the way Grigor's been serving. Avoids Novak in the QFs (1-13 H2H) to face either Foe/Popyrin. Knowing this is his last legit shot at a Slam, I doubt he's fukking that up. I'll then worry about the SFs & Finals (no Alca) in due time.

                                                            you are looking really good now with lots of hedge opportunities.

                                                            nice !!
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                                                            • Doug tushyterror
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                                                              • 07-03-12
                                                              • 4172

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by homie1975
                                                              you are looking really good now with lots of hedge opportunities.

                                                              nice !!
                                                              Crazy line movement on Grigor. After Novak lost, it dropped to 40-1 & the cashout was less than my risk. Just woke up to see it's now 20-1 & the cashout doubled. 0 desire to cashout cuz I'm confident he beats Rublev but then it gets brutally tough even W/O Novak in the QFs.

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