Todd Bowles

[big joe 1212]

Why not use last timeout with 37 seconds left???????

[big joe 1212]

Could have blocked FG

Could have been a bad snap

Could have missed it

[asiagambler]

I was wondering this too. Lions also acted like there were no timeouts left, snapping the ball with 10 seconds left on play clock multiple times

[big joe 1212]

Two really dumb ass coaches

[Da Manster!]

Game was over Big Joe. It's called sportsmanship, mutual respect, and proper protocol among football teams, players, and coaches. There was 1:33 left on the clock when Baker throws the INT. The lions could have chosen to line up in regular formation and call a running a play. That would have eaten at least 10 - 15 seconds off the clock (assuming the RB gets tackled immediately). then Bucs call a TO, and then all Detroit has to do is take two kneel downs in victory formation and the game is over. It was a moot point either way. no need to delay the inevitable.

[big joe 1212]

Game was over Big Joe. It's sportsmanship, mutual respect, and proper protocol among football teams, players, and coaches. There was 1:33 left on the clock when Baker throws the INT. The lions could have chosen to line up in regular formation and call a running a play. That would have eaten at least 10 - 15 seconds off the clock (assuming the RB gets tackled immediately). then Bucs call a TO, and then all Detroit has to do is take two kneel downs in victory formation and the game is over. It was a moot point either way. no need to delay the inevitable.

Are you fukking kidding me???? After the 3rd kneel down you call that time out!

[Eddy Munny]

Game was over Big Joe. It's called sportsmanship, mutual respect, and proper protocol among football teams, players, and coaches. There was 1:33 left on the clock when Baker throws the INT. The lions could have chosen to line up in regular formation and call a running a play. That would have eaten at least 10 - 15 seconds off the clock (assuming the RB gets tackled immediately). then Bucs call a TO, and then all Detroit has to do is take two kneel downs in victory formation and the game is over. It was a moot point either way. no need to delay the inevitable.

Dude running plays don't take 10-15 seconds unless they're 80 yard house calls.

[Thefix13]

Are you fukking kidding me???? After the 3rd kneel down you call that time out!

What bet did you lose?

[asiagambler]

It's almost like Bowles conceded and told Campbell he wasn't going to use the timeout. I don't agree with that. Make them run plays. Anything can happen, fumble, penalty, whatever. If they could have stuffed the run 3 times, then they would force Detroit to run a 4th down play with like 10 seconds left. So at least force a FG try or make them run a play and if they don't convert or miss the FG, then Tampa would have had at least 1 play and anything is possible, not likely but not impossible

[Da Manster!]

Are you fukking kidding me???? After the 3rd kneel down you call that time out!

yes, but that would have been disrespectful and distasteful. The lions could have ran a play from their regular formation after the INT and forced the Bucs to use their last time out. then it's two kneel downs and game over. it wouldn't have mattered. Bowles knew the game was over, took off his headset, and basically let Campbell know that he wasn't going to use the last time out. Hence, the Lions line up in victory formation and don't have to run a regular play.

[big joe 1212]

What bet did you lose?

Already hit my over

Lots if dumbasses here on SBR

Nothing changes

You’ll see, he’ll get blasted for this

[Seattle Slew]

Three traditional knees with one defensive timeout would have left about 5 to 7 seconds left on the clock.

Detroit opened the door with the quick snap on second down, if Bowles called it there, they would have been kicking a FG with about 20 seconds left.

[Da Manster!]

It's almost like Bowles conceded and told Campbell he wasn't going to use the timeout. I don't agree with that. Make them run plays. Anything can happen, fumble, penalty, whatever. If they could have stuffed the run 3 times, then they would force Detroit to run a 4th down play with like 10 seconds left. So at least force a FG try or make them run a play and if they don't convert or miss the FG, then Tampa would have had at least 1 play and anything is possible, not likely but not impossible

[big joe 1212]

yes, but that would have been disrespectful and distasteful. The lions could have ran a play from their regular formation after the INT and forced the Bucs to use their last time out. then it's two kneel downs and game over. it wouldn't have mattered. Bowles knew the game was over, took off his headset, and basically let Campbell know that he wasn't going to use the last time out. Hence, the Lions line up in victory formation and don't have to run a regular play.

Like Todd Bowles should be worried about being disrespectful when he’s trying to win a playoff game. If the opponent is dumb enough to give you a chance, you take it

[Seattle Slew]

It's almost like Bowles conceded and told Campbell he wasn't going to use the timeout. I don't agree with that. Make them run plays. Anything can happen, fumble, penalty, whatever. If they could have stuffed the run 3 times, then they would force Detroit to run a 4th down play with like 10 seconds left. So at least force a FG try or make them run a play and if they don't convert or miss the FG, then Tampa would have had at least 1 play and anything is possible, not likely but not impossible

Agreed, you need to make them run the plays. With those refs, you could easily see a holding call to stop the clock after one of the downs.

[Da Manster!]

Dude running plays don't take 10-15 seconds unless they're 80 yard house calls.

four yards, a cloud of dust, and a mini pile up, maybe one or two players lollygagging and taking their sweet time getting off the ground. That is what I meant, Edward.

[asiagambler]

Three traditional knees with one defensive timeout would have left about 5 to 7 seconds left on the clock.

Detroit opened the door with the quick snap on second down, if Bowles called it there, they would have been kicking a FG with about 20 seconds left.

Yeah I don't get why they snapped it so early. That's why I thought Bowles somehow signaled that he wouldn't be calling TO. But if he didn't and Campbell was being needlessly stupid, then you absolutely take a TO there and in this case, would have had 30 seconds left on the clock. Still need a missed FG probably but in the event it does miss, 30 seconds is a lot of time to make something happen

[Eddy Munny]

Did the Bucs have one timeout or two?

[asiagambler]

four yards, a cloud of dust, and a mini pile up, maybe one or two players lollygagging and taking their sweet time getting off the ground. That is what I meant, Edward.

Players can't stall like that though since they'll get penalized for it. And once the play is whistled dead, the play clock starts running anyway

[Da Manster!]

Like Todd Bowles should be worried about being disrespectful when he’s trying to win a playoff game. If the opponent is dumb enough to give you a chance, you take it

I understand that and get what you are saying. but it's a protocol thing with these guys. sort of like how baseball (MLB) has several of those "unwritten" rules that you don't violate or break. Granted, If I was Campbell I would have ran at least one more play and forced Bowles to use that final timeout and then take the two kneel downs. no harm, no foul, and all is kosher!...

[Da Manster!]

Players can't stall like that though since they'll get penalized for it. And once the play is whistled dead, the play clock starts running anyway

yes, but they still do it! In sort of a incognito type of way. and if there is a penalty it would be another 10 second run off...

[Da Manster!]

Did the Bucs have one timeout or two?

one

[asiagambler]

yes, but they still do it! In sort of a incognito type of way. and if there is a penalty it would be another 10 second run off...

It would only be a 10 second run off if Tampa committed a penalty. Otherwise, a winning team could keep committing penalties with a running clock and run the time all the way down

[Da Manster!]

It would only be a 10 second run off if Tampa committed a penalty. Otherwise, a winning team could keep committing penalties with a running clock and run the time all the way down

good point. but let's not kid ourselves. game was over. Tampa wasn't winning. their chances were slim and none. and slim left the building when Baker threw that dagger INT.

[asiagambler]

good point. but let's not kid ourselves. game was over. Tampa wasn't winning. their chances were slim and none. and slim left the building when Baker threw that dagger INT.

I agree game was over. I just was surprised he didn't use the TO

[pavyracer]

I have seen teams not use the timeouts when the game is beyond reach. Saves players from uncessary injuries.