Washington has some pieces on offense, Quinn needs to hire a solid OC.
fire Bienemy and hire his ole' buddy Chip Kelly ?
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Da Manster!
SBR Posting Legend
07-13-07
17720
#38
Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
I think he's a good hire but it'll come down to the players, not the coach. Hopefully, they'll find an impact receiver in the draft or FA and Howell will improve.
Drunk,
I don't like it at all. it's painfully obvious to anyone that he was not our 1st or 2nd choice. we totally whiffed on Ben Johnson and Mike McDonald. problem is they went "all in" with their chips on getting one of those two and couldn't close the deal. (for whatever reason). this move reeks of borderline desperation to save face. In short, we basically got the "last man standing" and the only one who would probably take this job or even consider it in the first place. Just another retread hire of a .500 coach who's been fired multiple times, is mediocre at best, and who's defenses seems to always fall apart late in the season or when they play any team that has some semblance of an offense. Ron Riviera 2.0 all over again. ...(Disclaimer: Having said all that, I'm sincerely hope I am dead wrong here!...)
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str
SBR Posting Legend
01-12-09
11773
#39
Originally posted by Da Manster!
Drunk,
I don't like it at all. it's painfully obvious to anyone that he was not our 1st or 2nd choice. we totally whiffed on Ben Johnson and Mike McDonald. problem is they went "all in" with their chips on getting one of those two and couldn't close the deal. (for whatever reason). this move reeks of borderline desperation to save face. In short, we basically got the "last man standing" and the only one who would probably take this job or even consider it in the first place. Just another retread hire of a .500 coach who's been fired multiple times, is mediocre at best, and who's defenses seems to always fall apart late in the season or when they play any team that has some semblance of an offense. Ron Riviera 2.0 all over again. ...(Disclaimer: Having said all that, I'm sincerely hope I am dead wrong here!...)
Totally agree. The owner said he wanted "a leader of men". That's great but the last time Washington was relevant and I mean Super bowl winners was when we had an offensive minded head coach running the team. Joe Gibbs. He started out 0-5 and Winning MADE HIM a leader of men. Max protection for the QB and a great defensive coordinator in Greg Williams.
I think the emphasis should have been on the both offense and defense. Winning creates leadership and becoming a leader of men follows as a byproduct of that. Not the other way around. Just my opinion.
And like you DaManster: .(Disclaimer: Having said all that, I'm sincerely hope I am dead wrong here!...)
Hail to the Redskins !
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homie1975
SBR Posting Legend
12-24-13
15452
#40
COMMANDERS
REDSKINS is like saying the N word, or HONKY, or PALEFACE
it is a racial epithet
i am so glad they changed the racial epithet
to all of you who continue to say REDSKINS and are too uneducated to understand the racist origin of the term,
the fact they are the COMMANDERS is right in your PHUKKING FACES.
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str
SBR Posting Legend
01-12-09
11773
#41
Originally posted by homie1975
COMMANDERS
REDSKINS is like saying the N word, or HONKY, or PALEFACE
it is a racial epithet
i am so glad they changed the racial epithet
to all of you who continue to say REDSKINS and are too uneducated to understand the racist origin of the term,
the fact they are the COMMANDERS is right in your PHUKKING FACES.
Maybe they should have named the the HOMIES.
Now THAT'S an edumacation at work.
I was referring to their past history Homie.
But you already knew that.
Nice try though.
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homie1975
SBR Posting Legend
12-24-13
15452
#42
Originally posted by str
Maybe they should have named the the HOMIES.
Now THAT'S an edumacation at work.
I was referring to their past history Homie.
But you already knew that.
Nice try though.
except you said HAIL TO THE HONKEY HOWLIES i mean Redskins.
;-)
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homie1975
SBR Posting Legend
12-24-13
15452
#43
you may as well have said "Hail Hitler".
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str
SBR Posting Legend
01-12-09
11773
#44
Originally posted by homie1975
except you said HAIL TO THE HONKEY HOWLIES i mean Redskins.
;-)
Originally posted by homie1975
you may as well have said "Hail Hitler".
Sorry Homie. Your the only one saying that crap. Not me.
And it was Heil Hitler, Homie. Just to help educate you a bit.
So just drop this child's play or take it somewhere else.
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Da Manster!
SBR Posting Legend
07-13-07
17720
#45
Originally posted by homie1975
COMMANDERS
REDSKINS is like saying the N word, or HONKY, or PALEFACE
it is a racial epithet
i am so glad they changed the racial epithet
to all of you who continue to say REDSKINS and are too uneducated to understand the racist origin of the term,
the fact they are the COMMANDERS is right in your PHUKKING FACES.
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homie1975
SBR Posting Legend
12-24-13
15452
#46
Originally posted by str
Sorry Homie. Your the only one saying that crap. Not me.
And it was Heil Hitler, Homie. Just to help educate you a bit.
So just drop this child's play or take it somewhere else.
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homie1975
SBR Posting Legend
12-24-13
15452
#47
will they fire Bienemy and hire Chip Kelly ?
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str
SBR Posting Legend
01-12-09
11773
#48
Originally posted by homie1975
will they fire Bienemy and hire Chip Kelly ?
Sure hope not. Kelly makes me sick personally. Never liked his style. Just my opinion.
Bienemy apparently, so the whispers say, is too hard on the players. I find that a LOL moment.
I guess they want a leader but he's not too hard?
If his O line could hold up, we might see if they can improve offensively.
QB had no time at all last year. Bienenemy's success was measured over time. He had one year here. That's not any kind of comparison IMO.
But who knows.
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DrunkHorseplayer
SBR Hall of Famer
05-15-10
7719
#49
Originally posted by homie1975
COMMANDERS
REDSKINS is like saying the N word, or HONKY, or PALEFACE
it is a racial epithet
i am so glad they changed the racial epithet
to all of you who continue to say REDSKINS and are too uneducated to understand the racist origin of the term,
the fact they are the COMMANDERS is right in your PHUKKING FACES.
It's Washington Redskins forever and if you're stupid enough to equate that with Nazism, you need to wake up. Enjoy looking at my avatar, the greatest logo in sports history.
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batt33
SBR Hall of Famer
12-23-16
6028
#50
Originally posted by Da Manster!
Drunk,
I don't like it at all. it's painfully obvious to anyone that he was not our 1st or 2nd choice. we totally whiffed on Ben Johnson and Mike McDonald. problem is they went "all in" with their chips on getting one of those two and couldn't close the deal. (for whatever reason). this move reeks of borderline desperation to save face. In short, we basically got the "last man standing" and the only one who would probably take this job or even consider it in the first place. Just another retread hire of a .500 coach who's been fired multiple times, is mediocre at best, and who's defenses seems to always fall apart late in the season or when they play any team that has some semblance of an offense. Ron Riviera 2.0 all over again. ...(Disclaimer: Having said all that, I'm sincerely hope I am dead wrong here!...)
Couldn't have said it better...
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DrunkHorseplayer
SBR Hall of Famer
05-15-10
7719
#51
Originally posted by Da Manster!
Drunk,
I don't like it at all. it's painfully obvious to anyone that he was not our 1st or 2nd choice. we totally whiffed on Ben Johnson and Mike McDonald. problem is they went "all in" with their chips on getting one of those two and couldn't close the deal. (for whatever reason). this move reeks of borderline desperation to save face. In short, we basically got the "last man standing" and the only one who would probably take this job or even consider it in the first place. Just another retread hire of a .500 coach who's been fired multiple times, is mediocre at best, and who's defenses seems to always fall apart late in the season or when they play any team that has some semblance of an offense. Ron Riviera 2.0 all over again. ...(Disclaimer: Having said all that, I'm sincerely hope I am dead wrong here!...)
Quinn is plenty competent to coach an NFL team and he's proven it in the past. Just for fun, let's remember this thread and see who gets fired first: Johnson, McDonald or Quinn.
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str
SBR Posting Legend
01-12-09
11773
#52
Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
Quinn is plenty competent to coach an NFL team and he's proven it in the past. Just for fun, let's remember this thread and see who gets fired first: Johnson, McDonald or Quinn.
Yes. Let's DO remember this thread.
I'm tired of this losing stuff. At least Quinn will bring some added knowledge to the Cowboy games.
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lakerboy
SBR Aristocracy
04-02-09
94379
#53
Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
It's Washington Redskins forever and if you're stupid enough to equate that with Nazism, you need to wake up. Enjoy looking at my avatar, the greatest logo in sports history.
Blackhawks is much better.
As for the hire obviously not the first choice.
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Da Manster!
SBR Posting Legend
07-13-07
17720
#54
Originally posted by homie1975
will they fire Bienemy and hire Chip Kelly ?
IMO, Bienemy will be given his walking papers soon enough and deservedly so! Did you watch any Commanders games? He basically threw Sam Howell under the bus with his shitty play calling having him throw 80% of the time from the shotgun formation and made no effort whatsoever to take any pressure of him by at least trying to establish the run with one of the better up-and-coming running backs in the league in Brian Robinson JR. and considering that our O-line was a sieve and Sam was getting hurried, hit, or sacked on nearly every play and no adjustments being made to protect him, it's easy to see why he's never been given a HC job. Andy Reid has been carrying his jock strap for him all of these years. No, sorry homie. It has nothing to do with the fact that he is NON-COKKKASIAN! (I will elaborate on that on my next post and respone...stay tuned)...right now Chip Kelly seems to be the new "hot" name being discussed in the DMV as our new OC. he wouldn't be my first choice but I wouldn't be totally against it either. The man does know offense and likes to run the ball! (serious brownie points and respect in my book based on that concept alone).
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lakerboy
SBR Aristocracy
04-02-09
94379
#55
Originally posted by str
Yes. Let's DO remember this thread.
I'm tired of this losing stuff. At least Quinn will bring some added knowledge to the Cowboy games.
I will remember for sure how the new ownership continues down the same path as Snyder.
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JAKEPEAVY21
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
03-11-11
29302
#56
Shocked that Vrabel did not secure a head coaching job...he consistently got more out of less than almost any head coach.
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Da Manster!
SBR Posting Legend
07-13-07
17720
#57
Originally posted by str
Sure hope not. Kelly makes me sick personally. Never liked his style. Just my opinion.
Bienemy apparently, so the whispers say, is too hard on the players. I find that a LOL moment.
I guess they want a leader but he's not too hard?
If his O line could hold up, we might see if they can improve offensively.
QB had no time at all last year. Bienenemy's success was measured over time. He had one year here. That's not any kind of comparison IMO.
But who knows.
also let's not forget the real reason why Bienemy hasn't gotten a NFL coaching gig yet. (which the NFL conveniently keeps ignoring and sweeping under the rug but instead choosing to play the race card). He's been arrested for assault and battery, accused of sexual harassment, hitting a parking lot attendant, and "allegedly" knew about the infamous rape of a Colorado female student at a time when they were using sex, drugs, and alcohol as tools to lure and get potential recruits.
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Da Manster!
SBR Posting Legend
07-13-07
17720
#58
Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
Quinn is plenty competent to coach an NFL team and he's proven it in the past. Just for fun, let's remember this thread and see who gets fired first: Johnson, McDonald or Quinn.
Well if by competent you mean he's mediocre and a .500 coach (43 - 42 record), then yes he is plenty competent!......and what exactly has he proven in the past? that he can blow a 25 point halftime in the greatest comeback in NFL Super Bowl history? that his defenses continue to falter late in the season and get their asses handed to them or whenever they play a decent team? (San Fran, Philly, Buffalo, and Green Bay right off the top of my head). and don't forget his record really plummeted after Kyle Shanahan left...I think something like 24 - 29 without Kyle running his offense. and as far as who gets fired first, Johnson is staying in Detroit. He's not interested in becoming a head coach. so scratch him from the list. Now McDonald and Quinn we shall see. all of this of course depends and is contingent on just how patient the new regime and ownership is...
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homie1975
SBR Posting Legend
12-24-13
15452
#59
Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
Shocked that Vrabel did not secure a head coaching job...he consistently got more out of less than almost any head coach.
agree. but there were not many out there.
and teams are looking for the next Sean McVay.
Vrabel has a more old school feel to him plus he is a Belichick guy and the shine is completely off BB.
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Da Manster!
SBR Posting Legend
07-13-07
17720
#60
Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
Shocked that Vrabel did not secure a head coaching job...he consistently got more out of less than almost any head coach.
I wouldn't have a problem with Vrabel getting another gig either...As a matter of fact, I would definitely prefer and much rather have him than Dan Quinn!...
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JAKEPEAVY21
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
03-11-11
29302
#61
Originally posted by homie1975
agree. but there were not many out there.
and teams are looking for the next Sean McVay.
Vrabel has a more old school feel to him plus he is a Belichick guy and the shine is completely off BB.
Agree that the stench of Belicheck likely played a role but the bottom line is the guy is a winner and made chicken soup out of chicken shyt year after year.
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str
SBR Posting Legend
01-12-09
11773
#62
Originally posted by lakerboy
I will remember for sure how the new ownership continues down the same path as Snyder.
Man I hope not. The owner was born and raised in DC and Chevy Chase. He knows the Snyder deal and all the bad that went with it.
I would hate to think anyone would want to go down the same path as that jerk.
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DrunkHorseplayer
SBR Hall of Famer
05-15-10
7719
#63
Originally posted by lakerboy
I will remember for sure how the new ownership continues down the same path as Snyder.
How do you know this? The guy has owned the team for less than a year, give him a chance.
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str
SBR Posting Legend
01-12-09
11773
#64
Just read that Kliff Kingsbury is in line to become the new O.C.
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homie1975
SBR Posting Legend
12-24-13
15452
#65
Originally posted by str
Just read that Kliff Kingsbury is in line to become the new O.C.
he was interviewing w/ the raiders for the same role then backed out.
he might back out of the commanders interviews as well.
who know.
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Da Manster!
SBR Posting Legend
07-13-07
17720
#66
Originally posted by str
Just read that Kliff Kingsbury is in line to become the new O.C.
I would fully endorse KK! He's worked with plenty of young, talented QB's during his brief tenure as a coach (both college and Pro ranks)...Johnny Manziel, Baker Mayfield, and Kyler Murray. He's still young and offensive minded. A good choice for OC if Dan Quinn decides to go that route!...and in other news, here we fukkin' go again! I knew something reeked with the botched and failed attempt to get Ben Johnson as our head coach! looks like some shots were fired by both sides! Just what this new regime needs! more unnecessary drama!......Ben Johnson straight up called Harris, Peters, and Magic Johnson basketball guys and that is a big reason why he chose to stay in Detroit!...Seriously Ben?......You already KNEW that before you accepted the interview in the first place dumb ass!...
Johnson, a leading head coach candidate, decided to return to Detroit
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str
SBR Posting Legend
01-12-09
11773
#67
Originally posted by Da Manster!
I would fully endorse KK! He's worked with plenty of young, talented QB's during his brief tenure as a coach (both college and Pro ranks)...Johnny Manziel, Baker Mayfield, and Kyler Murray. He's still young and offensive minded. A good choice for OC if Dan Quinn decides to go that route!...and in other news, here we fukkin' go again! I knew something reeked with the botched and failed attempt to get Ben Johnson as our head coach! looks like some shots were fired by both sides! Just what this new regime needs! more unnecessary drama!......Ben Johnson straight up called Harris, Peters, and Magic Johnson basketball guys and that is a big reason why he chose to stay in Detroit!...Seriously Ben?......You already KNEW that before you accepted the interview in the first place dumb ass!...
Everyone says dumb things while asked questions when they are young or inexperienced. What he said was just that. Of course they are BB people. No, Magic Johnson is a football guy.
All the NFL ownership people are not football guys though. They are owners. And I agree, he knew that when he got the call to interview. All that comment did was get a game circled on the calendar down the road. That's how I would be looking at it.
It will be really interesting what they do with the 2nd pick. It's going to be hard to walk away from a QB. Caleb Williams is a DC guy. Grew up here if he is available. But if they trade down they might wind up with a QB and another potential star as well.
At least there is some buzz about the Washington football program. Have not seen that in a while. Kind of tired of old free agent stars like it's a damn fantasy league. What an embarrassment Snyder was. Set us way back IMO.
Let's hope the "basketball guys" get it right. If so, can't wait to play Detroit in a couple years.
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Thefix13
SBR Wise Guy
05-14-21
664
#68
Originally posted by homie1975
COMMANDERS
REDSKINS is like saying the N word, or HONKY, or PALEFACE
it is a racial epithet
i am so glad they changed the racial epithet
to all of you who continue to say REDSKINS and are too uneducated to understand the racist origin of the term,
the fact they are the COMMANDERS is right in your PHUKKING FACES.
Who in the actual penetrate is offended by honky or paleface?
Also Commanders implies this team is impactful and has some sense of leadership, they do not, nor have they been even moderately relevant in decades. One of the only teams that can make Cowboys fans seem in the mix.
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homie1975
SBR Posting Legend
12-24-13
15452
#69
Originally posted by Thefix13
Who in the actual penetrate is offended by honky or paleface?
Also Commanders implies this team is impactful and has some sense of leadership, they do not, nor have they been even moderately relevant in decades. One of the only teams that can make Cowboys fans seem in the mix.