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raiders72001Senior Member
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raiders72001Senior Member
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#107Originally posted by asiagamblerDobbins has been out since Week 1. What are you even trying to say here??
You were betting because Dobbins AND Hill were out? 2 starters right?
You don't change the line much on one player but you do on 7. Just think about it. 20 is a huge difference, 7 is a difference. 1 doesn't mean much.Comment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#108Originally posted by raiders72001again
Beckham deep threat lmao
Beckham is WR3 behind Flowers and Bateman and if we're being serious, Agholor has outplayed him too.Comment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#109Originally posted by raiders72001Dobbins is a starter. Why don't you understand that? It doesn't matter when he got hurt. 7 starters OUT includes Dobbins.Comment -
raiders72001Senior Member
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#110Originally posted by asiagamblerSo you're betting based on known injury information from Week 1 ?Comment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#111Originally posted by raiders72001Dobbins is a starter. Why don't you understand that? It doesn't matter when he got hurt. 7 starters OUT includes Dobbins.
You don't change the line much on one player but you do on 7. Just think about it. 20 is a huge difference, 7 is a difference. 1 doesn't mean much.
You can't be this thick
WHO the players are matters. WHO the players replacing them matters. HOW LONG AGO the injury happened matters A LOT
If you're betting based on Week 1 injuries in Week 3 then you have bigger problems than not knowing the team's depth chartComment -
raiders72001Senior Member
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#112If 1 OL gets hurt in a week, I'll most likely ignore it. If 2 more get injured in subsequent weeks, then I'll definitely take note. Then you look at matchups.Comment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#113Originally posted by raiders72001Of course. I'll explain it again. 1 injury doesn't mean much. But when more injuries occur in subsequent weeks, then it means something.
We know you don't pay attention to when the injuries happened or who got injured or who's replacing them but you do seem very focused on simply how many. So what's the magic number for you?Comment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#114Originally posted by raiders72001If 1 OL gets hurt in a week, I'll most likely ignore it. If 2 more get injured in subsequent weeks, then I'll definitely take note. Then you look at matchups.
Well this game was only 2 OL thoughComment -
raiders72001Senior Member
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#115Originally posted by asiagamblerOk so then what is the number for you? How many injuries does it have to be?
We know you don't pay attention to when the injuries happened or who got injured or who's replacing them but you do seem very focused on simply how many. So what's the magic number for you?Comment -
raiders72001Senior Member
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#116I don't know anyone that I gamble with that doesn't look at intangibles and injuries. You aren't going to out model books in huge markets.Comment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#117Originally posted by raiders72001There isn't a magic number. It's individual players and matchups. A practice squad OT coming in to block TJ Watt is a game changer.Comment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#118Originally posted by raiders72001I don't know anyone that I gamble with that doesn't look at intangibles and injuries. You aren't going to out model books in huge markets.
You didn't do any of that here though. So I gave you some insights on those injuries but you couldn't actually carry a conversation because you didn't know much about either teamComment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#119Anyway, you should be looking hard at Baltimore at Cleveland right ?
5 more injured, damn so that's now 15 starters out (including IR)Comment -
raiders72001Senior Member
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#120Originally posted by asiagamblerYet you didn't know hardly any of the individual players or matchups hereComment -
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#121Originally posted by asiagamblerAnyway, you should be looking hard at Baltimore at Cleveland right ?
5 more injured, damn so that's now 15 starters out (including IR)Comment -
raiders72001Senior Member
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#122Originally posted by asiagamblerPart of looking at injuries is knowing who is injured and how long they've been injured and who is replacing them and how the replacements have done right?
You didn't do any of that here though. So I gave you some insights on those injuries but you couldn't actually carry a conversation because you didn't know much about either teamComment -
raiders72001Senior Member
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#123When you click on a player, it tells you the injury, when he was injured and the backup.Comment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#124Originally posted by raiders72001Like I said, you're looking for gotcha moments. I knew the value of the matchup even if I mistakenly typed in the wrong name. You still don't realize what Beckham means to Bal.
You could have just taken it for what it was but YOU were the one that wanted to argue despite not knowing much about the subject at hand and you're the one that insists on doubling down on these terrible takesComment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#125Originally posted by raiders72001Pay for SIC. I get all that info. You had to edit your mistakes.
The big post I made that you quoted is still there.
They detail YOUR mistakes. You can't be this delusional lmao
Everything I said was correct, down to the wet conditions being your biggest ally. I edited everything because why carry on a conversation with this guy that doesn't get anythingComment -
raiders72001Senior Member
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#126I clicked on Aaron Jones
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asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#127Seymour - your mistake
Stephens - your mistake
Mustipher - your mistake
Moon - your mistake
I even detailed all your mistakes. I didn't edit any mistakes.Comment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#128Originally posted by raiders72001I clicked on Aaron Jones
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raiders72001Senior Member
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#129Originally posted by asiagamblerSeymour - your mistake
Stephens - your mistake
Mustipher - your mistake
Moon - your mistake
I even detailed all your mistakes. I didn't edit any mistakes.
You wanted to discuss VROP for offensive linemen and don't even know how many snaps that Moon played.Comment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#130I mean I just went back to look at that post and you actually listed Tyus Bowser as one of the injuries lmao
He's been out since training campComment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#131Originally posted by raiders72001I didn't make a mistake with Moon and Mustipher. I told you that Mustipher is a bum from the Bears and Moon was playing in his first game off the practice squad. I hurriedly typed in two wrong names.
You wanted to discuss VROP for offensive linemen and don't even know how many snaps that Moon played.
Moon was brought up for DEPTH
You kept going on and on and on and on about how Moon is a practice squad player so he can't do what a starter can.
Well obviously he CAN do what Oweh does because Oweh doesn't do anything. But that is your mistake because you thought Moon was starting. He was not.
This is another thing I've said minimum 100 times in this threadComment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#132Originally posted by raiders72001I didn't make a mistake with Moon and Mustipher. I told you that Mustipher is a bum from the Bears and Moon was playing in his first game off the practice squad. I hurriedly typed in two wrong names.
You wanted to discuss VROP for offensive linemen and don't even know how many snaps that Moon played.
So in that regard, you got lucky because you get to think Moon was brought up to get serious snaps in this gameComment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#133And Mustipher is not a bum. You can say whatever you want about his time in Chicago but here in Baltimore, he has not played like a bum. He has filled in admirably and has allowed 0 pressures all year. That's not a bumComment -
raiders72001Senior Member
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#134Originally posted by asiagamblerPut it this way, if Ojabo doesn't get hurt, Moon barely plays
So in that regard, you got lucky because you get to think Moon was brought up to get serious snaps in this game
This is what you aren't understanding. Moon wouldn't have been on the field if not for injuries. Ojabo's injury wouldn't have put Moon on the field.
You keep making excuses instead of discussing the fact that backups blew the game.Comment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#135Anyway, this is boring now
I'm sure you'll be on the Browns -3 with 15 starters out (including IR) for Baltimore
I have no opinion on that as of yet, not that it wouldn't go completely over your head anywayComment -
raiders72001Senior Member
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#136On BearsIt's true, Mustipher was a weak spot on the offensive line,Comment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#137Originally posted by raiders72001Mustipher is a bum. The Bears are one team that I do know all the names.
This is what you aren't understanding. Moon wouldn't have been on the field if not for injuries. Ojabo's injury wouldn't have put Moon on the field.
You keep making excuses instead of discussing the fact that backups blew the game.
And so what? Again for the 100th time, Moon is no difference from Oweh. You don't know them so why do you keep arguing this?
Backups made some mistakes sure. Starters made some mistakes too. Lamar, the most important starter made some big ones. These things happen. They didn't blow the game as much as you want to think so. They played more or less at the level of the players they were replacing. Already said this ad nauseum. You can't come up with anything new or original. Zero substanceComment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
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#138Originally posted by raiders72001Comment -
raiders72001Senior Member
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#139Originally posted by asiagamblerAnyway, this is boring now
I'm sure you'll be on the Browns -3 with 15 starters out (including IR) for Baltimore
I have no opinion on that as of yet, not that it wouldn't go completely over your head anywayComment -
raiders72001Senior Member
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#140Originally posted by asiagamblerLook up his PFF grade last yearComment
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