The Red Sox answer to the infield shift ban

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  • stevenash
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    • 01-17-11
    • 65499

    #1
    The Red Sox answer to the infield shift ban
    Duvall moves from center to short right, leaving left field vacant.
    Manfred banned the infield shift, no rule about an outfield shift.

    Brilliant.
    I have a strong dislike for Manfred, I'm waiting on his outfield shift ban next, he's messed up the game enough so far, why not ban the OF shift now?





  • Darkside Magick
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    • 05-28-10
    • 12638

    #2
    Lmaoooo... Genius!!
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    • Headsterx
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      • 12-03-16
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      #3
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      • DiggityDaggityDo
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        • 11-30-08
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        #4
        Suck s Gallo
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        • unde0087
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          • 03-27-08
          • 28936

          #5
          I am glad they banned the shift. It was dumb and they should ban that too.
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          • VeggieDog
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            • 02-21-09
            • 7214

            #6
            I've been saying all along that teams will just shift the outfield.
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            • Otters27
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              • 07-14-07
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              #7
              Why not just hit the ball to left field. Problem solved
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              • slayer14
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                • 08-12-13
                • 22010

                #8
                You should be able to place fielder's any where you want, to many cry babies at mlb.
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                • DiggityDaggityDo
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                  • 11-30-08
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by slayer14
                  You should be able to place fielder's any where you want, to many cry babies at mlb.
                  Even the umps

                  <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="qme" dir="ltr"> <a href="https://t.co/eNGj948RAc">pic.twitter.com/eNGj948RAc</a></p>&mdash; Jimmy from Jersey (@jameshartsallen) <a href="https://twitter.com/jameshartsallen/status/1640673531162755072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >March 28, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                  • pavyracer
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                    • 04-12-07
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                    #10
                    Baseball the only sport that changes the rules every season. I don't even know what I'm watching anymore. It does not resemble the Braves baseball from the early nineties that I grew up watching.
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                    • DrunkHorseplayer
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                      • 05-15-10
                      • 7719

                      #11
                      Banning the shift (which should extend to the outfielders) is no different than lowering the mound; you have to maintain a competitive balance between the offense and defense.
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                      • johnnyvegas13
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                        #12
                        I don’t watch baseball
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                        • Ian
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                          • 11-09-09
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                          #13
                          Nice.

                          It seems like there's a large faction of people in baseball who are opposed to teams using their brains. The shift successfully took advantage of hitters who can't hit the opposite way. What's wrong with that? I'm glad the Red Sox found a way around that.
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                          • Snowball
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                            • 11-15-09
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                            #14
                            very risky

                            anyway I like overs in mlb this year
                            all 3 rules favor increased scoring.
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                            • Microphone
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                              • 01-08-08
                              • 2950

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Otters27
                              Why not just hit the ball to left field. Problem solved
                              I've always said this to anyone who would listen. Hit 'em where they ain't. These are skilled major leaguers, they can do it. After a while teams will get sick of being mocked.
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                              • DrunkHorseplayer
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                                • 05-15-10
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Snowball
                                very risky

                                anyway I like overs in mlb this year
                                all 3 rules favor increased scoring.
                                Tread lightly. The bigger bases and limited pickoffs are obviously intended to re-emphasize the running game but catchers are simply too good for that to happen; you're never again going to see Raines, McGee, Henderson, etc. stealing 50+ bases every year.
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                                • TheMoneyShot
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                                  #17
                                  Nasher... will you be making plays this year? Hopefully you're still allowed too. Looking forward to your threads.
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                                  • stevenash
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                                    • 01-17-11
                                    • 65499

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                    Nasher... will you be making plays this year? Hopefully you're still allowed too. Looking forward to your threads.
                                    Of course I'm allowed to, I'm still your pal Nasher, thing is I was asked to help out here, since I work exclusively remote these days I said sure, I'll help out.

                                    The drawback is MJ and I are the only two regular mods, (Opt is still the super mod so to speak, but he's got a ton of other projects going on too) so I might not have the time to post my customary twelve paragraph long threads.

                                    (Too which I can hear a collective "Thank Christ, Nasher you're so long winded you wear us out")

                                    Opening day is tomorrow, I want to hang a MLB thread by noon Thursday, no promises, but I want to share my 2023 MLB thoughts, respectful fades and disagreements are always welcome, I just get testy when it gets personal.

                                    I'm still your pal Nasher, and this is the peoples forum.
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                                    • konck
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                                      • 10-17-06
                                      • 12554

                                      #19
                                      I don't think teams will go for that shift way to much gap in the OF I mean if you get lucky and swing late on the outside pitch you run forever ...but even if you dont snd pull the ball between the 2 OF you got ex bases
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                                      • Brock Landers
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                                        • 06-30-08
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                                        #20
                                        The red Sox didn't invent this lol

                                        It always existed and was used last year
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                                        • Snowball
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
                                          Tread lightly. The bigger bases and limited pickoffs are obviously intended to re-emphasize the running game but catchers are simply too good for that to happen; you're never again going to see Raines, McGee, Henderson, etc. stealing 50+ bases every year.
                                          the big reason is bad pitching from being rushed.
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                                          • BuckyOne
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                                            • 01-02-15
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Otters27
                                            Why not just hit the ball to left field. Problem solved
                                            Same reason they cannot bunt to 3b.

                                            Current ball players only know how to swing hard.

                                            They refuse to cut their swing down to make contact
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                                            • juicername
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                                              #23
                                              Next up: no slapshots in hockey!
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                                              • KVB
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                                                • 05-29-14
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                                                Even the umps

                                                <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="qme" dir="ltr"> <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/eNGj948RAc">pic.twitter.com/eNGj948RAc</a></p>&mdash; Jimmy from Jersey (@jameshartsallen) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/jameshartsallen/status/1640673531162755072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >March 28, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                                                • MoMoneyMoVaughn
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                                                  • 05-08-14
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                                                  #25
                                                  Have to wonder what the numbers say about the effectiveness of this Vs infield shift.
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                                                  • bjb7223
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                                                    • 11-03-12
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                                                    #26
                                                    Speaking of the Sox, why is FSG so stingy?
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                                                    • hehfest
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                                                      • 09-28-08
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                                                      #27
                                                      I would not call it ESP but I was waiting to see if a team would bring an OF in and abandon the OF position. LOL. Just shade one way and I assume leave the CF more to one side where the other OF moved in. Now, its like basketball with the shot clock too. LOL. I just knew someone would use the OF.

                                                      Scoring should go back up now as it did today. So, notate this because if the books do not act fast enough to move the totals up then they will get smoked on overs.

                                                      1. No shift
                                                      2. Shot clock
                                                      3. Blocking the plate
                                                      4. Must face 3 batters as pitcher rule
                                                      5. Extra inning runner on second


                                                      Most of the changes are to speed up the game and I really can't disagree that before these changes these games could go on forever. The only one I disagree with is the shift. I DO NOT think they should've messed with it. Everything is fine including player safety at home plate. I like old school baseball though, so I would've never added the plate block rule.
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                                                      • kingdom
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                                                        • 07-25-10
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
                                                        Banning the shift (which should extend to the outfielders) is no different than lowering the mound; you have to maintain a competitive balance between the offense and defense.
                                                        mlb has no interest in competitive balance, much like the nfl. it is offense first. like the tighter balls, pitch clock, banning the shift. they appeal to the casual fan as opposed to the hardcore fans.
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