UConn -2.5 Gonzaga (Opener) In game discussion thread

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  • ChuckyTheGoat
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    • 04-04-11
    • 36446

    #36
    Zags. GL, everyone.
    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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    • pavyracer
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      • 04-12-07
      • 82412

      #37
      Everyone on Zaga. Books could get killed if Zaga wins.
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      • KVB
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        • 05-29-14
        • 74817

        #38


        "Everyone" is not on Gonzaga.

        What you are learning here with Darkside and me is that there is a reason the line is low.

        There is also more balance than you think. You don't think bettors are taking Uconn -2?

        Don't answer, I'm really not interested, this post is for everyone else.

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        • budwiser
          SBR MVP
          • 11-22-11
          • 3226

          #39
          I got zags +2.5

          Not talked about mich is the zags plau their wcc in vegas, and the crowd should be pro zag.

          Not big or super confident but official play
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          • budwiser
            SBR MVP
            • 11-22-11
            • 3226

            #40
            Originally posted by KVB


            "Everyone" is not on Gonzaga.

            What you are learning here with Darkside and me is that there is a reason the line is low.

            There is also more balance than you think. You don't think bettors are taking Uconn -2?

            Don't answer, I'm really not interested, this post is for everyone else.

            People all over the place. Plenty of zag and uconn
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            • stevenash
              Moderator
              • 01-17-11
              • 65028

              #41
              By BJ Cunningham
              Connecticut manhandled Arkansas in the Sweet 16 and now is the betting favorite to cut down the nets.

              The Huskies shot 64.7% from inside the arc and 9-of-20 from 3-point range in the win over the Razorbacks. But most importantly, they held Arkansas to just 31.9% from 2-point range and just 22 points at the rim.

              Dan Hurley’s team took away a lot of the advantages Arkansas had offensively, and UConn should be able to do the same here against Gonzaga.

              First off, the Huskies have an outstanding big man in Adama Sanogo, who will be able to guard Drew Timme and not allow him to single-handedly destroy their defense.\

              On offense, Gonzaga wants to get to rim, get out in transition and get the ball inside to Timme. Connecticut ranks ninth in the country in PPP allowed at the rim and 18th in PPP allowed in transition. It’s also above-average at defending post-up sets.

              I also don’t know how Gonzaga stops Connecticut unless the Huskies go cold from the field.


              UConn is a high-volume 3-point shooting team, ranking 66th in 3-point rate and hitting over 36% of its triples this season. Gonzaga has been terrible defending the 3-point line, allowing teams to hit 35.2% of their long-range attempts, which is 257th in the country.

              The Zags also rank 290th in Open 3 Rate Allowed.

              This is also the first time Gonzaga will face a high-volume 3-point team since it played Grand Canyon in the opening round. The Lopes went 9-of-24 from 3 in that contest.

              Connecticut is also a top-100 combined frequency team in utilizing both off-ball and on-ball screens, while Gonzaga is outside the top 250 in defending both of those.


              I think the road ends here for Gonzaga and Connecticut moves onto the Final Four.

              Pick: UConn -2 (Play to -3)
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              • KVB
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 05-29-14
                • 74817

                #42
                Originally posted by budwiser
                People all over the place. Plenty of zag and uconn
                Exactly.

                But right now, as I type this, the market is moving towards Uconn. they are blinking on money they have been sitting on.

                If you like them, get them. They are going to 3.

                Gonza bettors get a better deal if they wait.
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                • budwiser
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-22-11
                  • 3226

                  #43
                  Arkansas was terrible against uconn. Awful

                  As for never seen before, uconn has yet to see a high powered offense this tournament
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                  • budwiser
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-22-11
                    • 3226

                    #44
                    Originally posted by KVB
                    Exactly.

                    But right now, as I type this, the market is moving towards Uconn. they are blinking on money they have been sitting on.

                    If you like them, get them. They are going to 3.

                    Gonza bettors get a better deal if they wait.
                    Too late i took it 2.5 i couldn't wait got s to do. Maybe, I don't see any 3s yet. But yeah generally favorites more likely to go up
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                    • stevenash
                      Moderator
                      • 01-17-11
                      • 65028

                      #45
                      I edited the thread title to include in game discussion thread, no need for multiple threads.
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                      • budwiser
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-22-11
                        • 3226

                        #46
                        Check that a lot of books just went to 3

                        As i said couldn wait

                        Not a good sign but, so be it. Can't worry about it worrying does no good
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                        • KVB
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 05-29-14
                          • 74817

                          #47
                          My boys in NJ, at Casears trying to go to 3.5.

                          Now they're back to 2.5.



                          Touchy market, lmao. They knew, they just wanted the action.

                          Uconn could be in a good spot here.

                          I have an early nibble FAU +2/Uconn -2.5 moneyflow two pick, but now I'm starting to think the spoiler there is FAU, not UConn.

                          Still working it out.
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                          • Darkside Magick
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                            • 05-28-10
                            • 12638

                            #48
                            Connecticut -3 - 103/-110 @Pinnacle
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                            • KVB
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 05-29-14
                              • 74817

                              #49
                              Yeah, 3 almost everywhere.
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                              • KVB
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 05-29-14
                                • 74817

                                #50
                                Gonza money isn't done talking here, though.

                                This market could get ineteresting with the back and forth.

                                They are likely to be generating money with trades across the board.

                                Gonna be a big handle on this one, if they want it.
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                                • Mr.Capone
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 01-27-19
                                  • 599

                                  #51
                                  Zags game

                                  Alot of people talking about UConn compared to prior what about the Zags no way I me no way there best talented Zags I thought should had lost there last couple games TCU and UCLA both teams had starters injured at out would had been different but not Zags fought wins are wins and UCLA looked gased the last few minutes of there game not enough depth. If Zags Homgreen wow they would be killing it. Besides a young Bright star in Strasberry and Timmie which I think is one of the best ball distributor big guys in a long time I think there just ok, If huskies are hitting there shots no way this game will be close. Connecticut defense is playing the best it has been all year. The low line scares me I feel it should be 3.5 or 4 but I think it Gonzaga getting a ton of respect because of there past tourny success. Taking nothing away from Gonzaga's early November & December success, I'm betting they full short in this one. And no way one of there best player teams in the past by far.
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                                  • Philmill
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-30-11
                                    • 4275

                                    #52
                                    Uconn ml -160

                                    1600/1000
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                                    • Mackballs
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 12-01-16
                                      • 5810

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by KVB
                                      My boys in NJ, at Casears trying to go to 3.5.

                                      Now they're back to 2.5.



                                      Touchy market, lmao. They knew, they just wanted the action.

                                      Uconn could be in a good spot here.

                                      I have an early nibble FAU +2/Uconn -2.5 moneyflow two pick, but now I'm starting to think the spoiler there is FAU, not UConn.

                                      Still working it out.
                                      Give us the final answer KVB. UConn wins and covers?
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                                      • budwiser
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 11-22-11
                                        • 3226

                                        #54
                                        positive for zag imo, look at the experience factor. few and timme vs a uconn team not used to the red hot lights of the elite 8. and those lights will be hot from the tip

                                        the arena was not even close to being full for the uconn game. mostly ucla and zag fans there

                                        key could be timme foul trouble. he can have a tendency to pick up fouls and uconn is obviously a monster inside
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                                        • budwiser
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 11-22-11
                                          • 3226

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by KVB
                                          I have an early nibble FAU +2/Uconn -2.5 moneyflow two pick, but now I'm starting to think the spoiler there is FAU, not UConn.
                                          i wanted to go fau i couldn't do it.
                                          tennessie could have blown out fau they couldn't hit the side of a barn. missed shot, after shot, after shot
                                          vols 6-23 from 3, 21-63 overall, shot only 12 free throws even though they were the stronger team
                                          don't know about the health of the kansas st point guard
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                                          • Darkside Magick
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 05-28-10
                                            • 12638

                                            #56
                                            ​Gonzaga +132 vs Connecticut
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                                            • KVB
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 05-29-14
                                              • 74817

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Mackballs
                                              Give us the final answer KVB. UConn wins and covers?
                                              Been on one hell of a heater in all the Hoops Tourneys since the began.

                                              I am proceeding with caution. This is not an easy one.

                                              Trying to make the 4 pick over the next two days is even harder.

                                              I need more info and am working on it.
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                                              • KVB
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 05-29-14
                                                • 74817

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Mackballs
                                                Give us the final answer KVB. UConn wins and covers?
                                                Originally posted by KVB
                                                ...Uconn could be in a good spot here.

                                                I have an early nibble FAU +2/Uconn -2.5 moneyflow two pick, but now I'm starting to think the spoiler there is FAU, not UConn....
                                                This is what I've decided...


                                                Originally posted by KVB
                                                This is the moneyflow parlay I am working with:

                                                K State -1 (-112)
                                                Uconn -2.5 (-114)


                                                A similar moneyline version is good too...

                                                K State -120
                                                Uconn -155


                                                This is a difficult time, especially given the previous success. I can not emphasize that enough.

                                                The stacking percentages forecast have both FAU and Gonzaga winning on the moneyline. I feel a this creates a balance that helps Uconn advance.

                                                The original two pick was FAU/Uconn but there's always a spoiler. The adjustment is already made with K State.

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                                                • Darkside Magick
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 05-28-10
                                                  • 12638

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by KVB
                                                  This is what I've decided...
                                                  Florida Atlantic & Gonzaga Moneyline Parlay +477(Odds Boost)
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                                                  • KVB
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                    • 74817

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                                                    Florida Atlantic & Gonzaga Moneyline Parlay +477(Odds Boost)
                                                    Like it. It's difficult to tell the path here but in the thread I've been posting these parlays I've been explaining the value of going 2-0 or 0-2.

                                                    Any other result means we fukked up parlay construction and/or should have bet them individually.

                                                    I also talked about using the parlay as a guide, even for LIVE trading. Can't build up the equity with a two pick as I could with a 4 or 7 pick, but the point is the same.

                                                    I will be looking LIVE. And haven't ruled out a similar parlay to yours pre game. Numbers just not great with the movement though. That's why I'm typing now.

                                                    2-0 and 0-2 are good. 1-1 not good.

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                                                    • KVB
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                      • 74817

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                                                      Florida Atlantic & Gonzaga Moneyline Parlay +477(Odds Boost)
                                                      Off the board and didn't make a move.

                                                      Now it's individual LIVE or one last chance to at halftime. Numbers matter and I see the inherent risk in fading the forecasts. Also might try to get both teams as dogs in game 1, but still might not trade at all if nothing gets in the range.

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                                                      • stevenash
                                                        Moderator
                                                        • 01-17-11
                                                        • 65028

                                                        #62
                                                        Women just got knocked off.
                                                        Even in defeat Geno and our women are so classy.

                                                        Geno is everything that is correct about college hoops.
                                                        Kudos to Ohio State, they played perfect ball all game.
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                                                        • budwiser
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 11-22-11
                                                          • 3226

                                                          #63
                                                          Kansas st fla atl awful game

                                                          Fla atl turns the ball over, k st dumb play after stupid play

                                                          Somebody has to win this shot fest
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                                                          • budwiser
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 11-22-11
                                                            • 3226

                                                            #64
                                                            Kansas state absolutely blew that game

                                                            How do you let an offensive rebound on a free throw. Why do you go for 2 down 3. Why dies the guard pass the ball to a forward down 3 with 4 seconds left. Why does the guard hold the ball and nobody moves until the guard has to move with 5 seconds on the shot clock. Why do you foul guys shooting 3. Why do you call your last timeout when the clock is stopped.

                                                            The list of pathetic plays goes on and on for those jokers

                                                            Up 7 these guys at k st misding free throws 1 and 1s

                                                            12 for 18 free throws k st vs 18 for 22 fl.atl

                                                            Had nothing on it but fock k st
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                                                            • Seattle Slew
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 01-02-06
                                                              • 7373

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by budwiser
                                                              Kansas state absolutely blew that game

                                                              How do you let an offensive rebound on a free throw. Why do you go for 2 down 3. Why dies the guard pass the ball to a forward down 3 with 4 seconds left. Why does the guard hold the ball and nobody moves until the guard has to move with 5 seconds on the shot clock. Why do you foul guys shooting 3. Why do you call your last timeout when the clock is stopped.

                                                              The list of pathetic plays goes on and on for those jokers

                                                              I guess it starts at the top. Coach sux
                                                              Yup, MSU did the same the other night. Two guys passed on open 3s and they don't even get a shot off. The guard should have pulled up for 3 at 4 seconds when they didn't foul.
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                                                              • Darkside Magick
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 05-28-10
                                                                • 12638

                                                                #66
                                                                Florida Atlantic
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                                                                • bjb7223
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 11-03-12
                                                                  • 10347

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                                                                  Florida Atlantic
                                                                  another good call by you
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                                                                  • stevenash
                                                                    Moderator
                                                                    • 01-17-11
                                                                    • 65028

                                                                    #68
                                                                    KSU forgot how to shoot the 2H

                                                                    UConn
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                                                                    • budwiser
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 11-22-11
                                                                      • 3226

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Seattle Slew
                                                                      Yup, MSU did the same the other night. Two guys passed on open 3s and they don't even get a shot off. The guard should have pulled up for 3 at 4 seconds when they didn't foul.
                                                                      Yeah why is this guy who is their 3 point specialist giving up the ball to a forward standing there doing nothing but praying he doesn't get the pass

                                                                      Why dies the guard pass the ball.down low for 2 10 seconds left when they're down 3. Then they call their last timeout on a dead ball forcing them to race down full court again when they already had the ball on the scoring end down 3 with 10 seconds left. What's the point of doing that

                                                                      Stupid, stupid, stupid, very very dumb team full.of idiots
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                                                                      • KVB
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 05-29-14
                                                                        • 74817

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                                                                        Florida Atlantic


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