Kyrie Irving is demanding a trade from the Nets.

**budwiser** · 02-09-23, 02:48 AM

Originally posted by bjb7223

Brooklyn spoke to a few teams about Ben Simmons after the Kyrie trade, per
@IanBegley

Yeah man that front office is crazy. Kd under contract. They keep him until the summer they get a ton for him they got suns late 1st rounders and they don't have pix

I can't believe it one of the worst trades in nba history. Gave up the ace of spades kd for change

**IBetYou** · 02-09-23, 04:30 AM

Originally posted by budwiser

Durant traded wow.

Well there goes my nets futures. Low risk high reward, never expected durant to be moved

Team is a joke now.

Never had a chance from the beginning. Like I said, mental issues. They can't handle the trials of the regular season then they certainly can't handle the intensity of a 7-game series vs the Celtics/ Bucks.

**IBetYou** · 02-09-23, 04:35 AM

Raptors are my new favourite team btw. Everyone said they were going to blow up the team, but instead they've addressed their one true weakness. Centre/ Poeltl! Nick Nurse will like him a lot.

**IBetYou** · 02-09-23, 04:58 AM

Looks like a Bucks/ Suns final then. A re-match!

**yisman** · 02-09-23, 07:37 AM

that sucks. I bet Nets to win East and title after Kyrie trade. Drawing dead now.

Nets made that big splash with Kyrie/KD and have nothing to show for it. In fact, both those guys sat out most games since they signed with Brooklyn.

**bigtymer56** · 02-09-23, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by budwiser

They got almost nothing for kd. Crowder and bridges.

I guess kd wanted out.

Team imploded from within. The kyrie trade i guess was too much for kd.

They couldn't force the suns to take Simmons too? Devastated

**IBetYou** · 02-09-23, 08:45 AM

KD only signed with Brooklyn because hometown kid Irving did. There was nothing else keeping him there. Similar thing played out over the summer when Irving demanded a trade and Durant followed in short order. I think Irving had in his mind all along that he'd demand out again at the deadline -easier for teams to get things done at the deadline.

**budwiser** · 02-09-23, 09:42 AM

Originally posted by IBetYou

Never had a chance from the beginning. Like I said, mental issues. They can't handle the trials of the regular season then they certainly can't handle the intensity of a 7-game series vs the Celtics/ Bucks.

yeah 100% wrong. i just can't believe they would trade a superstar in the middle of a contract.

you have to treat these guys like white collar professionals, like doctors, like specialists. because they are the best of the best, and everyone wants them on their team. everyone is trying to get them.

low risk high reward, but i shot the bed on this one.

**budwiser** · 02-09-23, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by bigtymer56

They couldn't force the suns to take Simmons too? Devastated

yeah the trade was one of the worst of all time.

they could have unloaded both harris and simmons teams would have found a way for sure to get kd. instead they're stuck with both and get this, houston has swaps on the 1st round picks.

and the reputation of the gm and the owner are now shot. like not paying harden when he was at okc, okc has not been the same. they had young kd, harden, westbrook, ibaka they could have won 6 championships they were a superteam

i can't think of a dumber trade.

**budwiser** · 02-09-23, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by yisman

that sucks. I bet Nets to win East and title after Kyrie trade. Drawing dead now.

Nets made that big splash with Kyrie/KD and have nothing to show for it. In fact, both those guys sat out most games since they signed with Brooklyn.

yeah if they get another big guy they would have had a chance at a title. i just can't believe this trade.

low risk, that's why you do it. low risk. and you learn from it. always learning, stay humble.

**budwiser** · 02-09-23, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by IBetYou

Raptors are my new favourite team btw. Everyone said they were going to blow up the team, but instead they've addressed their one true weakness. Centre/ Poeltl! Nick Nurse will like him a lot.

i don't like it. the issue with the team is shooting %. they are tied for 2nd worst fg %, 3rd worst 3 pt % only the rockets and the hornets are worse.
siakam loves to go to the basket. now that big bum poeltl is going to be in the way and his defender. poeltl is not going to be shooting 3s any time soon. there's a reason the spurs suk.

but, look at me i had nets futures. so i'm the donkey's oss here what do i know.

**budwiser** · 02-09-23, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by IBetYou

Looks like a Bucks/ Suns final then. A re-match!

yeah very possible. kd is an elite player, now he's got a pg in paul, shooter in booker, center in ayton, who is gonna stop this team.

but licking my wounds here. i cannot believe that trade, when the blazers selected sam bowie instead of jordan they weren't sure what they were getting. when you have kevin durant under contract, you know what you have, and they traded him for mikal bridges and draft picks?? they panicked at 11pm they just did it, made a rash decision. both the owner and gm have to go imo the trust factor is gone from the players, once you lose your reputation as owners and gms you're done

**IBetYou** · 02-09-23, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by budwiser

i don't like it. the issue with the team is shooting %. they are tied for 2nd worst fg %, 3rd worst 3 pt % only the rockets and the hornets are worse.
siakam loves to go to the basket. now that big bum poeltl is going to be in the way and his defender. poeltl is not going to be shooting 3s any time soon. there's a reason the spurs suk.

but, look at me i had nets futures. so i'm the donkey's oss here what do i know.

Interesting... didn't know about those percentages. That's worth breaking down.

Poeltl has got some offensive talent -he's not Gobert. When Siakam drives he can dump it off to him. I just think he fits into their bullyball style perfectly. They love length on that team.

**IBetYou** · 02-09-23, 10:20 AM

Seems like a reasonable haul for the Nets to me. 4 1st rounders plus Bridges & Johnson. Bridges is an outlier defender with improving offensive abilities. Johnson also has shown a lot of promise. Nets have a lot of duplication at the forward spots now. Lotta competition for mins -might be a good team to bet ATS for the rest of the season.

**budwiser** · 02-09-23, 10:31 AM

Originally posted by IBetYou

Seems like a reasonable haul for the Nets to me. 4 1st rounders plus Bridges & Johnson. Bridges is an outlier defender with improving offensive abilities. Johnson also has shown a lot of promise. Nets have a lot of duplication at the forward spots now. Lotta competition for mins -might be a good team to bet ATS for the rest of the season.

yeah it's all for the individuals now. the whole "let's win" team attitude from coach vaughn is shot out the door faster than a roadrunner. he'll need whips and chains now. they're not playing for anything for years

every player can get traded at any time, the idea is to make it out of brooklyn and get away from tsai and marks and the bottomless pit that became brooklyn. i can't believe it man.

**budwiser** · 02-09-23, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by IBetYou

Interesting... didn't know about those percentages. That's worth breaking down.
Poeltl has got some offensive talent -he's not Gobert. When Siakam drives he can dump it off to him. I just think he fits into their bullyball style perfectly. They love length on that team.

yeah vanvleet is shooting slightly under 40%, 34% from 3. poeltl is an awful free throw shooter, near 50%. i guess they felt they were in desperate need of a true center

**budwiser** · 02-09-23, 10:45 AM

i remember you warned me, you said during the irving thing that they would implode, you were right, the timing was wrong.

i said the nets would go on a tear, they did, they won something like 12 in a row, tied for 1st with the celtics in the entire nba a month and a half later they are tanking and in permanent rebuilding mode

**IBetYou** · 02-09-23, 10:53 AM

Thing about the raptors is they're a defensive team through & through. So you can give them some leeway with the offensive efficiency.

3 games for them before the break, all at home. Reckon they smash the Jazz & Pistons.

**bigtymer56** · 02-09-23, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by IBetYou

Seems like a reasonable haul for the Nets to me. 4 1st rounders plus Bridges & Johnson. Bridges is an outlier defender with improving offensive abilities. Johnson also has shown a lot of promise. Nets have a lot of duplication at the forward spots now. Lotta competition for mins -might be a good team to bet ATS for the rest of the season.

Yea hoping there is another trade today. Especially one that includes Simmons. Not going to lie, going to be upset if he still on the team at the end of the day.

**budwiser** · 02-09-23, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by IBetYou

Thing about the raptors is they're a defensive team through & through. So you can give them some leeway with the offensive efficiency.

3 games for them before the break, all at home. Reckon they smash the Jazz & Pistons.

well....sorta. they have THE worst defensive rebounding average total in the league. guessing why they picked up poeltl

like i said i think poeltl is going to jam up the lane for siakam. poeltl would have been great on the warriors, or the nets before the irving trade-a team that spreads out and shoots 3 and just needs a big goon in the middle like another looney to pick up rebounds and get dunks. but, what do i know i'm not the raptors gm, who wouldn't take 3 first round draft picks for og

**budwiser** · 02-09-23, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by bigtymer56

Yea hoping there is another trade today. Especially one that includes Simmons. Not going to lie, going to be upset if he still on the team at the end of the day.

they coulda gotten rid of simmons and harris...easy...for kd. now they're rebuilding, but they gotta pay simmons $35 to $40 milliion for this year and next 2 years, harris $19 million for this year and next year, both players are washed.

so, they don't have cap room, they have all these picks from the suns, who are now a superteam...but get this..the picks they do have are swapped with the rockets, meaning if they suk the rockets swap their pick for the nets

you just can't begin to explain how bad the trade was. they were a big player away from being legitimate contenders for the title, and now they are the joke of the league, and everyone except them knows why

**bigtymer56** · 02-09-23, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by budwiser

they coulda gotten rid of simmons and harris...easy...for kd. now they're rebuilding, but they gotta pay simmons $35 to $40 milliion for this year and next 2 years, harris $19 million for this year and next year, both players are washed.

so, they don't have cap room, they have all these picks from the suns, who are now a superteam...but get this..the picks they do have are swapped with the rockets, meaning if they suk the rockets swap their pick for the nets

you just can't begin to explain how bad the trade was. they were a big player away from being legitimate contenders for the title, and now they are the joke of the league, and everyone except them knows why

Yea man. That Harden trade is going down as one of the worst in NBA history. Jarret Allen, Caris Levert, 1st round picks and pick swaps for like 7 years.

**budwiser** · 02-09-23, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by bigtymer56

Yea man. That Harden trade is going down as one of the worst in NBA history. Jarret Allen, Caris Levert, 1st round picks and pick swaps for like 7 years.

and nets they got rid of blake griffin, nash refused to play him, he played 18 minutes last night 15 points against the sixers. power forward they had for pocket change.

they seem to have no clue who they are or what they are doing. went from net buyers to net sellers in a matter of 3 minutes at 11pm last night, because the suns called them. it wasn't even them calling the suns

**play4win** · 02-09-23, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by IBetYou

Looks like a Bucks/ Suns final then. A re-match!

hell no. rather celts than bucks. gianni is hot trash. and that team is not worth to watch either. bucks literally picked up random players with size just to fill up the rooster.

celtics - suns looks way more attractive. or 6ers

**budwiser** · 02-09-23, 12:05 PM

reportedly nets desperately trying to trade simmons for westbrick using the jazz in the final moments of the trade deadline.

comedy central

**IBetYou** · 02-09-23, 03:25 PM

Wall traded back to Houston ahahahaha

Talked shit about them on his way out and now he's back. They'll buy him out I expect. A lot of these has-beens just can't bring themselves to look in the mirror.

**IBetYou** · 02-09-23, 03:27 PM

Blazers have traded for Reddish & Knox. Is this going to catapult them to championship contender? I think not

**IBetYou** · 02-09-23, 04:24 PM

Pacers waive Bitadze. Thunder need to sign him. Good euro project; has ability on both ends of the floor, but availABILITY lacking so far in his career.

**IBetYou** · 02-09-23, 04:41 PM

I'm stunned... the Clippers traded Jackson. Seemed like an important player for them. I wonder where he lands. Mavs? Nuggets?

**budwiser** · 02-10-23, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by IBetYou

Wall traded back to Houston ahahahaha

Talked shit about them on his way out and now he's back. They'll buy him out I expect. A lot of these has-beens just can't bring themselves to look in the mirror.

yeah i couldn't believe it when i saw him play for the clippers. the guy is 20% of what he used to be, at 32 an old man.

still pissed these guys irving and durant took off. the word is out both demanded a trade. one day you're all smiles joining the nets saying you believe in the org and all that, only to bail on the org a short time later. durant just says i'll join a superteam, as he usually does, to cherry pick a title. i lost respect for the guy.

clips getting rid of wall is good. getting gordon and dropping wall obviously good. team obviously needs a point guard.

**budwiser** · 02-10-23, 08:50 AM

phoenix getting rid of bridges and johnson, picking up durant who is injury prone, can't even play tonight, giving up 4 draft picks and their future. how are they going to win a title-sure they got durant, they got an old paul and just gave up 2 core players. cofavorites with boston, but i don't see it. grandiose new owner needs to make a splash tell everyone i'm here

nets losing the core player of their franchise and trashing title hopes in the middle of a playoff run

a stupid trade for both teams. how does that work for either team. but, whatever.

**yisman** · 02-10-23, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by bigtymer56

Yea man. That Harden trade is going down as one of the worst in NBA history. Jarret Allen, Caris Levert, 1st round picks and pick swaps for like 7 years.

The trade for Pierce and Garnett was pretty bad too. Nets have been badly mismanaged.

**budwiser** · 02-10-23, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by yisman

The trade for Pierce and Garnett was pretty bad too. Nets have been badly mismanaged.

yeah the simmons/harden trade also.

they should have just paid kyrie the max, stop f ing with the guy, they woulda had both players. but, as you said, that's the nets

the issue, from what i understand, on the nets-phoenix trade, is durant not the nets. durant insisted on leaving. nets made the kyrie trade thinking they were going for a title with kd. way to go "champ"

**budwiser** · 02-10-23, 09:00 AM

nets are actually not a bad team now, but they are out of the title race. 100 to 1. they have length, rebounding, they had finney smith shut down derozan. derozan has killed the nets this season. it makes such a difference to shut down the playmaker. they have bridges who can play the other team's best player, so against the celtics they can put finney-smith on tatum, tatum will try to switch every time, but they have switchable defenders now including bridges. they have an ace 3-point shooter in cam johnson. they suddenly became very deep.

i obviously agree nets are not going to win the title but 100 to 1 odds is wrong. it'd put it more at 45 to 1.

clips come out of the west, and boston title is my latest thought. lotta people think bucks are a threat to boston. i'm sure a lotta people now think the suns are going to win it all. sure, they got kd, an incredible player, and a jerk too who will bail on any team at any time

**budwiser** · 02-10-23, 09:10 AM

as for kyrie, free agent after this season, the chances of him signing max $50 million 4 years from the mavericks is what, 0. but that's what he was upset about from the nets, they gave him 3 years instead of 4. problem is, no other team would give him that deal also.

he's just a self-centered oss. no wonder he and kd got together, they have so much in common