Texas Rangers overpaid for de Grom.

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  • Bluehorseshoe
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    • 07-13-06
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    #1
    Texas Rangers overpaid for de Grom.
    Five-years, $185 million is a joke for a guy who can't stay healthy. lol
  • stevenash
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    • 01-17-11
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    #2
    Bargain if he can stay healthy.
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    • pologq
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      • 10-07-12
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      #3
      what a shocker. did not expect the rangers.
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      • iwantcougars
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        • 09-29-09
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        #4
        too old for 5 year deal
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        • stevenash
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          • 01-17-11
          • 65557

          #5
          Originally posted by pologq
          what a shocker. did not expect the rangers.
          Yes and no.
          In the past Texas has been reluctant to open the checkbook, they made it clear that this off season they were going to spend.

          You can make a case either way for this deal.
          If Jake breaks down, it's money flushed down the crapper, if healthy and makes 28 to 34 starts, he's not just a game changer but a pennant changer.
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          • jjgold
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            • 07-20-05
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            #6
            His age makes it a terrible contract
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            • Mr KLC
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              • 12-19-07
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              #7
              When you try to become a contender primarily through free agency, it normally doesn't turn out well.
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              • big joe 1212
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                • 06-01-08
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                #8
                No state taxes, although he does have to pay state taxes on certain road games

                good for him cashing in
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                • lakerboy
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                  • 04-02-09
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                  #9
                  Lmao.
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                  • Bluehorseshoe
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                    • 07-13-06
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by stevenash
                    Bargain if he can stay healthy.
                    And he can't. It's not going to better for him at 35 years old.
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                    • stevenash
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                      • 01-17-11
                      • 65557

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                      And he can't. It's not going to better for him at 35 years old.
                      Reread post #5
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                      • jjgold
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                        • 07-20-05
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                        #12
                        He just went there for money
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                        • stevenash
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                          • 01-17-11
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          He just went there for money
                          Wouldn't you?
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                          • Bluehorseshoe
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                            • 07-13-06
                            • 14998

                            #14
                            Originally posted by stevenash
                            Reread post #5
                            Is he the difference? How did it work out for him this year with a good Mets team? He got blown up in a must win game in Atlanta.
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                            • TheLock
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                              • 04-06-08
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                              #15
                              I don’t love the signing but one thing to keep in mind about the Rangers:

                              Only one team (Marlins) lost more 1-run games in 2022 than the Rangers.

                              So it’s not a stretch for the Rangers to have a vastly improved overall Win-Loss record next year.
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                              • stake1
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                                • 12-19-18
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                                #16
                                Rangers apparently not done. clearly they were able to lure Bochy out of retirement promising him, that they were going to spend big on fa’s. Verlander next?
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                                • slayer14
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                                  • 08-12-13
                                  • 22010

                                  #17
                                  Did the Mets have enough of DEGROM injury issues
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                                  • cincinnatikid513
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                                    • 11-23-17
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                                    #18
                                    must be nice make over a million for every start
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                                    • stake1
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                                      • 12-19-18
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
                                      must be nice make over a million for every start
                                      work every five days and have a $35 mill salary
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                                      • Kermit
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                                        #20
                                        What a waste.
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                                        • unusialsusp5
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                                          • 04-18-10
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                          He just went there for money
                                          You went to Tyler,Texas a few years ago for it.
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                                          • Bluehorseshoe
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                                            • 07-13-06
                                            • 14998

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by slayer14
                                            Did the Mets have enough of DEGROM injury issues
                                            They were only offering 3 years.
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                                            • iwantcougars
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                                              • 09-29-09
                                              • 2156

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                                              They were only offering 3 years.
                                              thats the right number for his age and injury background
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                                              • stevenash
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                                                • 01-17-11
                                                • 65557

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by iwantcougars
                                                thats the right number for his age and injury background
                                                Yeah.
                                                If the Mets offered three years WITH a two year CLUB option I bet Jake stays with NY
                                                Reason being if he stays in NY and had three consecutive quality seasons, say 80 starts, 55 wins ERA say 2.40, he could probably make out better at age 33 proving he can stay healthy.

                                                Like I said earlier, IF Jake can stay healthy from 2023-2025, put up the numbers I just mentioned, get Texas to just one WS, and deep run in anther postseason, then the backend of that contract is paid for, regardless.

                                                IF...

                                                If my Aunt Sheila had a pair of huevos she'd be my Uncle Joe.
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                                                • VeggieDog
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                                                  • 02-21-09
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                                                  #25
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                                                  • stake1
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                                                    • 12-19-18
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                                                    #26
                                                    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jake deGrom made $400K per inning the last 2 years and thought he was way underpaid. Turns out the Rangers (and others) agreed. But the Mets are better off spending that money on someone less talented (that’s everyone) but more dependable (almost everyone)<a href="https://t.co/F11QPziNaW">https://t.co/F11QPziNaW</a></p>&mdash; Jon Heyman (@JonHeyman) <a href="https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1599028918207455232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >December 3, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                                                    • stake1
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                                                      • 12-19-18
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                                                      #27
                                                      -----------^
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                                                      • stevenash
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                                                        • 01-17-11
                                                        • 65557

                                                        #28
                                                        ^
                                                        I love Heyman, I've actually had a couple of online social media chats with him, great baseball journalist.

                                                        Now, let me make myself clear, I am playing devils advocate here, I can, and have make valid cases for both sides of that enormous contract.

                                                        When healthy, Jake is the best starting pitcher since Pedro, but gun to head if I were a GM, and I have played the game of baseball from age to 8 to 22, and a student of analytics, I probably would not because of the health concerns, BUT, if he stays heathy, that contract is a bargain.

                                                        But, like Heyman says, that money is probably best spent elsewhere.
                                                        As a baseball junkie, I'll try to watch most of deGrom's starts this season, Texas faces that Astro lineup 16 times this year and Trout/Otani's Angels 17 times, should be interesting.
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                                                        • unde0087
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                                                          • 03-27-08
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                                                          #29
                                                          Love deGrom, had a lot of fun watching him pitch for the Mets but he was basically worthless last two seasons. If you want to be paid hundreds of millions of dollars you should be on the field not sitting at home for half a season every year. I am glad they didn't resign him because who knows if this is going to happen year in and year out. Wish him well because he seems to be a great dude and obviously when healthy is one of the greatest.
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                                                          • stake1
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                                                            • 12-19-18
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by stevenash
                                                            ^
                                                            I love Heyman, I've actually had a couple of online social media chats with him, great baseball journalist.

                                                            Now, let me make myself clear, I am playing devils advocate here, I can, and have make valid cases for both sides of that enormous contract.

                                                            When healthy, Jake is the best starting pitcher since Pedro, but gun to head if I were a GM, and I have played the game of baseball from age to 8 to 22, and a student of analytics, I probably would not because of the health concerns, BUT, if he stays heathy, that contract is a bargain.

                                                            But, like Heyman says, that money is probably best spent elsewhere.
                                                            As a baseball junkie, I'll try to watch most of deGrom's starts this season, Texas faces that Astro lineup 16 times this year and Trout/Otani's Angels 17 times, should be interesting.
                                                            Bochy is one of the best managing a rotation and clubhouse. He commands respect in that clubhouse with his four pennants and three ws championships, so as the rangers continue to add arms, they will be a fascinating club in '23 to watch. And how Bochy manages degrom's innings in '23
                                                            very cool you have interacted with Heyman. I always look to read his columns at the Post
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                                                            • stake1
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                                                              • 12-19-18
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by unde0087
                                                              Love deGrom, had a lot of fun watching him pitch for the Mets but he was basically worthless last two seasons. If you want to be paid hundreds of millions of dollars you should be on the field not sitting at home for half a season every year. I am glad they didn't resign him because who knows if this is going to happen year in and year out. Wish him well because he seems to be a great dude and obviously when healthy is one of the greatest.
                                                              you think the Mets are serious contenders for Judge?
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                                                              • unde0087
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by stake1
                                                                you think the Mets are serious contenders for Judge?
                                                                I haven't really been paying attention to be honest. We will see how it plays out but they have money to spend now.
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                                                                • stevenash
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                                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                                  • 65557

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by unde0087
                                                                  I haven't really been paying attention to be honest. We will see how it plays out but they have money to spend now.
                                                                  Rosenthal said on his podcast yesterday the Judge sweepstakes is down to two teams Giants and Yankees.
                                                                  Mets (from what I've read recently) want to spend on ancillary pieces to fill voids, I know NYM are interested in Brandon Drury, IMO, that would be a nice sign, Drury is one of those 'Swiss Army Knife" versatile infielders, and he has a decent stick too.

                                                                  Hot stove is heating up gang.
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                                                                  • jjgold
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                                                                    • 07-20-05
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Texas will be nothing again

                                                                    Old Man pitcher that gets injured

                                                                    lol
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