Ontario Bans UFC Betting

[pologq]

https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/35156934/ontario-bans-ufc-betting-integrity-concerns

[KVB]

Tough to disasgree with this decision. UFC training and coachng teams aren't very sophisticated or smart when it comes to this aspect of the business.

They need to be regulated before they do something even more stupid than they've already done.

[TheMoneyShot]

Have no idea what they are bitching about?? Hasn't the Underdog won the last 5 or 6 UFC main events?? So odd. I guess books don't want to win? lol

[KVB]

I remember that fight with Minner and Nuerdanbieke.

Minner started out with a left kick, appeared to hurt himself, then followed up with another left kick, then he got his ass kicked.

Even the announcers were confused.

What I don't understand about this article is that the UFC already banned athletes, members of their teams, etc from betting on the fights.

There is a UFC Athlete Code of Conduct and somebody should probably fax the updated copy to Ontario.

So while I agree with the decision that teams shouldn't be able to bet on the the fights, I'm not sure Ontario needed to make it here.

Something stinks.

[KVB]

I will try to contact Ontario and see what's happening here.

[DiggityDaggityDo]

Something stinks.

That’s just Derrick Lewis

[jjgold]

Play offshore
No issues
Simple

[pologq]

Play offshore
No issues
Simple

you are right. that is exactly what will happen.

[KVB]

Play offshore
No issues
Simple

Tell my why I shouldn't just call you an idiot right now?

Do you even know the topic here?

Besides, I'm in the US at I keep telling colleagues that Canada is "offshore"...


Pay attention Gold and get your weight up.

Ontario may be involved in optics here as there have been some recent high profile incidences.

[KVB]

you are right. that is exactly what will happen.

But it doesn't change anything. This isn't about where you can bet UFC, this about betting by those within the UFC.

Which was banned.

Somebody needs to remind Ontario of this.

[DiggityDaggityDo]

[slayer14]

It to violent for a country like Canada to be honest this sport

[jjgold]

you are right. that is exactly what will happen.

Legal places playing right into offshore hands daily

[TheMoneyShot]

That’s just Derrick Lewis

At least he didn't sh## in the ring during the fight. He was holding it.

[pavyracer]

I remember that fight with Minner and Nuerdanbieke.

Minner started out with a left kick, appeared to hurt himself, then followed up with another left kick, then he got his ass kicked.

Even the announcers were confused.

What I don't understand about this article is that the UFC already banned athletes, members of their teams, etc from betting on the fights.

There is a UFC Athlete Code of Conduct and somebody should probably fax the updated copy to Ontario.

So while I agree with the decision that teams shouldn't be able to bet on the the fights, I'm not sure Ontario needed to make it here.

Something stinks.

Do you think the UFC fighters, coaches, trainers, doctors, etc don't know how to use beards if a fight is fixed?

[KVB]

Do you think the UFC fighters, coaches, trainers, doctors, etc don't know how to use beards if a fight is fixed?

LMAO this conversation is way beyond you.

Don't take that with offense, I just know your level.

Just forget about it, it's not something you'll understand. I'm not even going to try.

For real.

[Thor4140]

LMAO this conversation is way beyond you.

Don't take that with offense, I just know your level.

Just forget about it, it's not something you'll understand. I'm not even going to try.

For real.

That is a tough one to not take offense too

[DiggityDaggityDo]

LMAO this conversation is way beyond you.

Don't take that with offense, I just know your level.

Just forget about it, it's not something you'll understand. I'm not even going to try.

For real.

[KVB]

I've learned, DDD. I've learned. Some love the shadows on the wall.

Some are just a hard pass for me, there's just no point.

[jjgold]

That had to be the dumbest decision of all times idiot alert

[OldBill]

what or who the penetrate bets on these fixed sports? UFC WWE etc... so easy for big fav to get wagers in on the underdog and take a dive win millions and lose

[pologq]

i remember on 5 dimes when they had WWE, not sure if they still, that you would see massive odds change the day before on matches and could tell exactly who would win. sometimes the dog went from +200 to -300 in a few hours. just had to be in on it when the odds were still decent.

[jjgold]

How dumb is Canada?

Bans one of most popular betting sports

[mackave]

i remember on 5 dimes when they had WWE, not sure if they still, that you would see massive odds change the day before on matches and could tell exactly who would win. sometimes the dog went from +200 to -300 in a few hours. just had to be in on it when the odds were still decent.

haha the good ol days

[Machba]

Ontario is smart AF!
Soon others will follow suit.
Conspiracy !

[KVB]

That is a tough one to not take offense too

Yeah, even the mirror can be offensive when some look into it.

I've just learned he's one of many of the posters here that continue to be an insult to all of our intelligences. One of those guys that knows everything, but everything he know is wrong. One of the many that ignore sample size, don't understand probabilitiy and odds, and don't understand things like vigorish. I often talk about the difference between making a winning bet and making the bet wins. Despite this he does not understand the difference. Not understanding isn't an issue, we all hav that issue, but he does not want to, he "already knows everything"...lol.

If you're not willing to learn, as I am, as we all should be, but you are willing to spread nonsense info, the wrong info, then I'm not going to waste any more time on you.

Like I said, there's just no point. JJGold will encourage him too, trolling the guy and he doesn't even know it. I would much rather have explained things than typing this post, but it's like talking to a brick wall.

I'm so done with that shit, I usually just skip over his posts now. WI=ish I hadn't read the dumb one in this thread.

[KVB]

Ontario is smart AF!
Soon others will follow suit.
Conspiracy !

I'm not sure this is representative of what's happened here.

Seems like Ontario is actually behind the ball here, not ahead of it.

The question is, why? Why are they making a decision based on old info, info that has changed?

I'm expecting some personal communication from the AGCO, so we'll see, but I suspect this decision doesn't last very long and may get reversed.

[209 Life]

New Jersey is now doing the same things as Ontario affiliated with James Krause.

[209 Life]

Krause now banned in Nevada too. This story keeps getting bigger.

[KVB]

Ontario is smart AF!
Soon others will follow suit.
Conspiracy !

I'm not sure this is representative of what's happened here.

Seems like Ontario is actually behind the ball here, not ahead of it.

The question is, why? Why are they making a decision based on old info, info that has changed?

I'm expecting some personal communication from the AGCO, so we'll see, but I suspect this decision doesn't last very long and may get reversed.

Yeah Macher.

I sort of take it back for now.Ontario might be ahead of the game, or at least the UFC, here like you said. They weren't satisfied, pending the investigations.

It started in Nevada, suspending pending investigations way back on Nov 18th. UFC took some action (code of conduct, etc), but Ontario followed Nevada there, but with all of UFC apparently.

Now everyone is following Nevada and UFC adding to their actions. Now they are saying anyone working with Krause can't fight in UFC, pending investigations.

Not so much a developing story 209, at least not yet, let's see what the "investigations" say. There are definitely developments to come.

But it seems these suspensions are all pending the investigations, not the result of, so it's not as bad as it sounds, and they all probably should have doen it when Nevada did.

[KVB]

New Jersey is now doing the same things as Ontario affiliated with James Krause.

Krause now banned in Nevada too. This story keeps getting bigger.

Krause was suspended in Nevada, New Jersey and Missouri before Ontario took action.

Ontario banned betting on ALL UFC fights.

It was the UFC who came a day later banning Krause and fighters with ties to him.

[209 Life]

Krause was suspended in Nevada, New Jersey and Missouri before Ontario took action.

Ontario banned betting on ALL UFC fights.

It was the UFC who came a day later banning Krause and fighters with ties to him.

Microscope on Krause heavy

[KVB]

Microscope on Krause heavy

The UFC made their statement today, a day after Ontario.

Nevada, Missouri and New Jersey were already banning bets on Krause and not letting him corner.

New Jersey did it on November 20th.

[KVB]

This is from August 1st. Flaunting it, he talks about betting on the fights he cornered.

Funny how he mentions value, without mentioning undisclosed information that he's using...lol..

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">James Krause says he makes more on gambling on MMA than anything else.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheMMAHour?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5E tfw">#TheMMAHour</a> <a href="https://t.co/jfW4qJar6E">pic.twitter.com/jfW4qJar6E</a></p>&mdash; Jed I. Goodman © (@jedigoodman) <a href="https://twitter.com/jedigoodman/status/1554194418915102720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >August 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[KVB]

You can always find value if you have info the market doesn't.

You can find value if you manipulate the information everyone does have, in a way the market has not accounted for. This is similar to having info the market doesn't have, but more along the lines of what I often say..."It's not the information, it's how you use it."