USA can they shock the world and win the soccer world cup at 125/1 odds

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  • cincinnatikid513
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 11-23-17
    • 45360

    #36
    Originally posted by stevenash
    To expand, I read where the SB and WC (final match only) were bet pretty much the same.
    Then again I've read different numbers from different sources so I don't know what to believe.

    Opti would know.
    also would make sense, since soccer is a global game and american football is not
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    • stevenash
      Moderator
      • 01-17-11
      • 65557

      #37
      Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
      also would make sense, since soccer is a global game and american football is not
      I tend to agree, the SB however is a different animal, that's a global event, week 12 on the regular season is not for instance.

      But yeah, agreed.
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      • cincinnatikid513
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 11-23-17
        • 45360

        #38
        Originally posted by stevenash
        I tend to agree, the SB however is a different animal, that's a global event, week 12 on the regular season is not for instance.

        But yeah, agreed.


        According to FIFA, the 2018 World Cup final between France and Croatia reached an average live audience of 517 million viewers, with more than than 1.1 billion people tuning in over its 90 minutes. The 2021 Super Bowl pales in comparison, having had an average TV viewership of 91.6 million in the U.S. plus an estimated 30 to 50 million viewers around the world.
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        • stevenash
          Moderator
          • 01-17-11
          • 65557

          #39
          Originally posted by cincinnatikid513
          According to FIFA, the 2018 World Cup final between France and Croatia reached an average live audience of 517 million viewers, with more than than 1.1 billion people tuning in over its 90 minutes. The 2021 Super Bowl pales in comparison, having had an average TV viewership of 91.6 million in the U.S. plus an estimated 30 to 50 million viewers around the world.
          That makes sense, but I wasn't talking viewership.
          I would have guessed the ratio would be more like 3:1
          Thanks for that.
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          • pavyracer
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-12-07
            • 82808

            #40
            If you plan to bet on WC bet 90% of your bets on the group play games and 10% on the KO rounds. The easy money is made in group play.
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            • k13
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 07-16-10
              • 18104

              #41
              Originally posted by manny24
              if they get Messi otherwise phone it in
              Messi sucks at World Cups.
              Has 0 goals vs anyone good in his whole life.
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              • k13
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 07-16-10
                • 18104

                #42
                Take the bet, hedge later, hope for a good knockout draw.
                They won't win but does not mean you can't make money on it.
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                • cincinnatikid513
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 11-23-17
                  • 45360

                  #43
                  just getting out of group stage would be great feat
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                  • hostile takeover
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-06-09
                    • 2258

                    #44
                    Not going to happen. US soccer has always been political. The best players do not play at the highest level. And those that do are forced to play a dumbed-down game plan.
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                    • TheLock
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 04-06-08
                      • 14427

                      #45
                      Light your money of fire instead you’ll at least have a good story
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                      • JIBBBY
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 12-10-09
                        • 83686

                        #46
                        So do we take Wales at +190 today and fade USA soccer? Is Wales any good?
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                        • slayer14
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 08-12-13
                          • 22010

                          #47
                          USA going close would make a great storyline
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                          • Goat Milk
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 03-24-10
                            • 25850

                            #48
                            They won't make it out of the group stage.
                            Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                            • k13
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 07-16-10
                              • 18104

                              #49
                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                              So do we take Wales at +190 today and fade USA soccer? Is Wales any good?
                              They lost to Poland who will lose to Mexico at the World Cup.
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                              • cincinnatikid513
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 11-23-17
                                • 45360

                                #50
                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                So do we take Wales at +190 today and fade USA soccer? Is Wales any good?
                                good chance for a draw neither team is high scoring can easily see 0-0 1-0 1-1
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                                • lakerboy
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 04-02-09
                                  • 94379

                                  #51
                                  This will be an interesting group. England is more focused on the human rights angle. The irony
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                                  • slayer14
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 08-12-13
                                    • 22010

                                    #52
                                    England are a fragile soccer team
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                                    • ByeShea
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 06-30-08
                                      • 8097

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                      American kids grow up playing Football, Basketball and Baseball. We don't go around kicking a little round ball on a big grass field without using our hands like a jerk off.

                                      We import foreign soccer players now in our American soccer leagues. Our home grown American soccer players are pure garbage. This is why USA men's soccer teams are trash in every world cup we enter.
                                      They've been saying that the future of US sports is soccer since the 1970s. And there's more youths playing soccer today in the US than ever before, etc. etc. etc.

                                      But this ignores a VERY important characteristic about America & its design. When kids get to junior high & high school they see homecoming, cheerleaders, Friday night lights, school spirit - everything - all revolves around football. Soccer might as well be badminton as the best athletes are drawn to foots. Result: soccer goes nowhere and America doesn't care a whit.
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                                      • k13
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 07-16-10
                                        • 18104

                                        #54
                                        England is only -165 vs US.
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                                        • luvtogamble
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-21-11
                                          • 1084

                                          #55
                                          no chance
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                                          • unde0087
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                                            • 03-27-08
                                            • 28951

                                            #56
                                            Ya but we have gay pride and black lives matter, that shit is so amazing that it will carry the day easily. I mean look what it has done just in our own country. The rest of the world doesn't even know what super punch is coming. If only goals came in the form of people pretending to care like Lebron. Only cares when he is being embarrassed on the court, then social justice reigns supreme.
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                                            • unde0087
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                                              • 03-27-08
                                              • 28951

                                              #57
                                              If rainbows and creme puffs are goals, we win hands down, complete lock
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                                              • Optional
                                                Administrator
                                                • 06-10-10
                                                • 61502

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by stevenash
                                                To expand, I read where the SB and WC (final match only) were bet pretty much the same.
                                                Then again I've read different numbers from different sources so I don't know what to believe.

                                                Opti would know.
                                                I don't.

                                                Plus find it hard to believe any publicly released figures like that.

                                                USA has an entrenched local bookie industry which can't be quantified as one example of why the SB v WC betting numbers cant be comapred.
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                                                • Optional
                                                  Administrator
                                                  • 06-10-10
                                                  • 61502

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by unde0087
                                                  If rainbows and creme puffs are goals, we win hands down, complete lock
                                                  It's not just the US team doing the gay pride thing. Just about every team is.
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                                                  • stevenash
                                                    Moderator
                                                    • 01-17-11
                                                    • 65557

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Optional
                                                    I don't.

                                                    Plus find it hard to believe any publicly released figures like that.

                                                    USA has an entrenched local bookie industry which can't be quantified as one example of why the SB v WC betting numbers cant be comapred.
                                                    Every time I try to research those numbers I get conflicting data.
                                                    I go to credible sources too, so I assume they're not making up numbers, but no source is in agreement with the others, so I assume what I am reading is just estimates.
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                                                    • Optional
                                                      Administrator
                                                      • 06-10-10
                                                      • 61502

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by stevenash

                                                      Every time I try to research those numbers I get conflicting data.
                                                      I go to credible sources too, so I assume they're not making up numbers, but no source is in agreement with the others, so I assume what I am reading is just estimates.
                                                      They can probably make guestimates but until I see someone saying here is the list of bookmakers (or tax info) used to make this prediction I find it tough to accept at face value.

                                                      My guess is that the World Cup Final match might rival the Superbowl game day betting, but I'd think there is more $$$ on SB if pushed to make a call on it.
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                                                      • lakerboy
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 04-02-09
                                                        • 94379

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Optional
                                                        They can probably make guestimates but until I see someone saying here is the list of bookmakers (or tax info) used to make this prediction I find it tough to accept at face value.

                                                        My guess is that the World Cup Final match might rival the Superbowl game day betting, but I'd think there is more $$$ on SB if pushed to make a call on it.
                                                        You probably have no edge in either game.
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                                                        • slayer14
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 08-12-13
                                                          • 22010

                                                          #63
                                                          Just need to beat Iran then they into the quarter finals
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #64
                                                            Slayer your alive
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                                                            • thetrinity
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 01-25-11
                                                              • 22430

                                                              #65
                                                              game was boring as penetrate and predictable under
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                                                              • cincinnatikid513
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 11-23-17
                                                                • 45360

                                                                #66
                                                                must beat iran to move on
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                                                                • JIBBBY
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 12-10-09
                                                                  • 83686

                                                                  #67
                                                                  2 ties so far for USA. Now they have to straight up beat IRAN to advance. Good luck with that! USA needs to learn to score more. Their defense is stout.
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                                                                  • slayer14
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 08-12-13
                                                                    • 22010

                                                                    #68
                                                                    The sporting miracle is possible here
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                                                                    • lakerboy
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 04-02-09
                                                                      • 94379

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by slayer14
                                                                      Just need to beat Iran then they into the quarter finals
                                                                      They get to bypass the round of 16?
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                                                                      • slayer14
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 08-12-13
                                                                        • 22010

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Round 16 is next correction
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