I'm talking about teasing from +1 or + 2 to +8. It seems like a huge percentage of games are decided by 1 TD or less?
Has anybody ever done a long term study on teasers with +1-+2 spreads?
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EGrecuSBR Wise Guy
- 09-15-21
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#1Has anybody ever done a long term study on teasers with +1-+2 spreads?Tags: None -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-10-05
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#2No need to study as a teaser. It's just a question of pricing an alternate spread. If the 2-teamer is -110, you're looking at a -260 alt spread per leg. At the right odds it could be slightly profitable in certain spots, but not large scale.
Remember that a teaser is a parlay. It's just a parlay of alternate lines.Comment -
EGrecuSBR Wise Guy
- 09-15-21
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#3On a lot of plays, if you buy points from 1 to 3.5, it's already at like -180 or -190Originally posted by d2betsNo need to study as a teaser. It's just a question of pricing an alternate spread. If the 2-teamer is -110, you're looking at a -260 alt spread per leg. At the right odds it could be slightly profitable in certain spots, but not large scale.
Remember that a teaser is a parlay. It's just a parlay of alternate lines.
-265 for all the way at 7.5 when you're also covering key numbers of 4, 6 and 7 has gotta be profitable long term, no?Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-10-05
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#4There are worse things in the world, but you need to pick your spots. I used to tease a lot back in the day when I got +100 and ties win. Now that was good. And the books weren't keen to playing with the lines around 9. Recall teasing many -9's down to -2.5. Essentially -2.5-240 when the ML was like -450.Originally posted by EGrecuOn a lot of plays, if you buy points from 1 to 3.5, it's already at like -180 or -190
-265 for all the way at 7.5 when you're also covering key numbers of 4, 6 and 7 has gotta be profitable long term, no?
At -110, it's doable. But then many/most books charge -120 on 6-point teasers. Also pay attention to ties win or lose. You have to bet at the right book at the right time in the right spots. It's not easy.Comment -
EGrecuSBR Wise Guy
- 09-15-21
- 709
#5I try to tease against teams that are offensively challenged. Like rams bucs yesterday. 9 points is a penetrate ton for a team like tampa to coverOriginally posted by d2betsThere are worse things in the world, but you need to pick your spots. I used to tease a lot back in the day when I got +100 and ties win. Now that was good. And the books weren't keen to playing with the lines around 9. Recall teasing many -9's down to -2.5. Essentially -2.5-240 when the ML was like -450.
At -110, it's doable. But then many/most books charge -120 on 6-point teasers. Also pay attention to ties win or lose. You have to bet at the right book at the right time in the right spots. It's not easy.
I also like inter division matchups. Naturally more competitiveComment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-10-05
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#6Is it -110 odds? Do ties win? If yes and yes, you should do OK if you bet them at the right time.Originally posted by EGrecuI try to tease against teams that are offensively challenged. Like rams bucs yesterday. 9 points is a penetrate ton for a team like tampa to cover
I also like inter division matchups. Naturally more competitiveComment -
EGrecuSBR Wise Guy
- 09-15-21
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#7I think ties result in a half win. I'm not 100% sureOriginally posted by d2betsIs it -110 odds? Do ties win? If yes and yes, you should do OK if you bet them at the right time.
It's -120 odds. It's bookmaker. They have decent lines, not the best but their 20% cash bonus is terrific. You can spin your bankroll to keep getting 20% cash bonusComment -
gauchojakeBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 09-17-10
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#8Bookmaker has done an extensive study on this. They are telling me to tell you it's +ev???Comment -
EGrecuSBR Wise Guy
- 09-15-21
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#9Teasers are great for books cause many idiots use them on totals or even teasing like 12 pts to 6.5 or teasing -2 to +4.5. Horrible.Originally posted by gauchojakeBookmaker has done an extensive study on this. They are telling me to tell you it's +ev???
So dumb. Anything outside of teasing 2 to 8 and 8 or 9 to 2.5 is idioticComment -
pologqSBR Posting Legend- 10-07-12
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#10i like taking adjusted lines for football and putting little parlays and round robins together. i agree it is all situational. must cross all key numbers.
i know a lot who just tease big spreads even bigger like the jets yesterday. i just used the jets at +14 instead of +12.5 from earlier in the week.Comment -
EGrecuSBR Wise Guy
- 09-15-21
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#11Teasing 12 pts to 18 or 19 is a terrible playOriginally posted by pologqi like taking adjusted lines for football and putting little parlays and round robins together. i agree it is all situational. must cross all key numbers.
i know a lot who just tease big spreads even bigger like the jets yesterday. i just used the jets at +14 instead of +12.5 from earlier in the week.
There's not that many games decided in that range compared to games being decided from 2 to 8 points. The difference is astronomicalComment -
gauchojakeBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 09-17-10
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#12The problem with any long-term analysis is that the rules have changed regarding extra points/2pt conversions.
Couple that with the fact that books changed the rules and shade numbers, and I'd say it's not worth your time and money.Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-10-05
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#13-120 is garbage. You're not gonna win long-term. And you need to know the ties rule.Originally posted by EGrecuI think ties result in a half win. I'm not 100% sure
It's -120 odds. It's bookmaker. They have decent lines, not the best but their 20% cash bonus is terrific. You can spin your bankroll to keep getting 20% cash bonusComment -
pologqSBR Posting Legend- 10-07-12
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#14-120 for 6 points is not worth it with all the adjusted spreads you can substitute instead. betting has really changed.
and yes, 2pt conversions are a whole different animal. before a team down 11 with 5 mins left would need 2 full td drives. not anymore. that is huge.Comment -
EGrecuSBR Wise Guy
- 09-15-21
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#15The saints game today alt line at +7.5 is -325Originally posted by pologq-120 for 6 points is not worth it with all the adjusted spreads you can substitute instead. betting has really changed.
and yes, 2pt conversions are a whole different animal. before a team down 11 with 5 mins left would need 2 full td drives. not anymore. that is huge.
The teaser is much better
I also love a home team getting that line. Home teams are more likely to be competitiveComment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-10-05
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#16Uh huh. And what's the other side? Margin is super-thin at -120 odds. You need to find -110.Originally posted by EGrecuThe saints game today alt line at +7.5 is -325
The teaser is much better
I also love a home team getting that line. Home teams are more likely to be competitiveComment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-23-17
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#17That rule was changed in 2015. There's plenty of data for long-term analysisOriginally posted by gauchojakeThe problem with any long-term analysis is that the rules have changed regarding extra points/2pt conversions.
Couple that with the fact that books changed the rules and shade numbers, and I'd say it's not worth your time and money.Comment -
EGrecuSBR Wise Guy
- 09-15-21
- 709
#18You think there's any additional value with a home team getting the +7.5?Originally posted by d2betsUh huh. And what's the other side? Margin is super-thin at -120 odds. You need to find -110.
I just don't see many matchups where a home team gets blown out In what should be a competitive gameComment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-23-17
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#19Since 2015, there's been 193 games with a spread of +1, +1.5, +2 or +2.5 for the home teamOriginally posted by EGrecuYou think there's any additional value with a home team getting the +7.5?
I just don't see many matchups where a home team gets blown out In what should be a competitive game
The home team covered +7.5 142 of those games (73.6%). Breaking it down individually:
32/44 when line was +1 (72.7%)
37/42 when line was +1.5 (88.1%)
27/36 when line was +2 (75.0%)
46/71 when line was +2.5 (64.8%)Comment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-23-17
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#20For away teams it's 157/206 (76.2%) so barely any difference at all based on home/away and actually a bit better on the roadOriginally posted by EGrecuYou think there's any additional value with a home team getting the +7.5?
I just don't see many matchups where a home team gets blown out In what should be a competitive gameComment -
TheGoldenGooseSBR MVP
- 11-27-12
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#21A ML, a Parlay, a Teaser, a reduced juice -105. These are all useful tools in your gambling arsenal.
Teaser prices should be...
6 points -110
6.5 points -120
7 points -130
Anything more and you are getting squeezed by your Book.
I use them all the time.
Check out my November thru January Thread in the Players Talk Forum!Comment -
StackinGreenSBR Posting Legend
- 10-09-10
- 12140
#22Yes, beyond this with alternate line parlays there is almost no reason to do set point teasers such at these. Handicap with better point margins to land on and take a lower payout with a higher win probability, if you are going to bother. What's funny is that no one even offers 4 team 13 anymore. They barely offer 3 team 10.Originally posted by TheGoldenGooseA ML, a Parlay, a Teaser, a reduced juice -105. These are all useful tools in your gambling arsenal.
Teaser prices should be...
6 points -110
6.5 points -120
7 points -130
Anything more and you are getting squeezed by your Book.
I use them all the time.
Check out my November thru January Thread in the Players Talk Forum!Comment -
StackinGreenSBR Posting Legend
- 10-09-10
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#23Note that you should also be cappin' the fact that New Orleans came off a monster performance (score) and thus the line was going to be off.
I'm just as interested, if not more, in teasing overs in modern football. I know, I know, most games are going under this year but that I think is going hand in hand with how mediocre the league is now and how sides are really coming up random especially with the top teams.
GB all of a sudden blows, as do TB and LA Rams (and Chargers!)
KC even lost to the Colts, lol, people forgot that
Buff loses to an ascending Jets team, hey at least it was road divisional
etcComment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
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#24The standard payout for a two team 6 point tease is 10/11, and a 6.5 two team payout is 10/12Originally posted by d2betsNo need to study as a teaser. It's just a question of pricing an alternate spread. If the 2-teamer is -110, you're looking at a -260 alt spread per leg. At the right odds it could be slightly profitable in certain spots, but not large scale.
Remember that a teaser is a parlay. It's just a parlay of alternate lines.
The books generally offer -250 money line on a 6.5 football favorite.
What's the better bet, the tease, or the money line parlay.
*Spoiler alert*
It's not the teaser.Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-10-05
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#25Well yes, you're example is on 6.5 favorite. You don't tease that.Originally posted by stevenashThe standard payout for a two team 6 point tease is 10/11, and a 6.5 two team payout is 10/12
The books generally offer -250 money line on a 6.5 football favorite.
What's the better bet, the tease, or the money line parlay.
*Spoiler alert*
It's not the teaser.
Now do it for 8.5.
There's a reason why books are sitting on Chiefs -9.5 instead of -8.5.Comment -
stevenashModerator
- 01-17-11
- 66052
#26Good example, and yes.Originally posted by d2betsWell yes, you're example is on 6.5 favorite. You don't tease that.
Now do it for 8.5.
There's a reason why books are sitting on Chiefs -9.5 instead of -8.5.Comment -
LT ProfitsSBR Aristocracy
- 10-27-06
- 90963
#27Assuming -260 on each leg, breakeven = 52.16% = -109. so even -110 is slightly -EV
Ah the good old days when 2-team 6-pointers used to be +100
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Brandt MoatSBR Wise Guy
- 05-26-21
- 884
#28On ties my local knocks it down one. If it is a 3 teamer, he pays for a 2. Doesn't pay from 2 down to 1, it is a push.
Originally posted by EGrecuI think ties result in a half win. I'm not 100% sure
It's -120 odds. It's bookmaker. They have decent lines, not the best but their 20% cash bonus is terrific. You can spin your bankroll to keep getting 20% cash bonusComment -
StackinGreenSBR Posting Legend
- 10-09-10
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#29Props are much better than sides this year in the NFL, way bigger EV for meComment -
asiagamblerSBR Hall of Famer
- 07-23-17
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#30This dumbfukk againOriginally posted by Brandt MoatOn ties my local knocks it down one. If it is a 3 teamer, he pays for a 2. Doesn't pay from 2 down to 1, it is a push.
Got any more outdated advice about teasers? How about never cross 0??
Please tell us more 30 year old strategies everyone already knows
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Brandt MoatSBR Wise Guy
- 05-26-21
- 884
#31The Gook fook. That's chink for Lil Tickle guy. O kray Soup dong yu. Like poo poo platter Don't matter. Fook off gook.
Originally posted by asiagamblerThis dumbfukk again
Got any more outdated advice about teasers? How about never cross 0??
Please tell us more 30 year old strategies everyone already knows
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Brandt MoatSBR Wise Guy
- 05-26-21
- 884
#32Advice? Nope wrong smart one. Strategies? Nope wrong again smart one. Just friendly info on how my book handles ties. So, don't be dipn and dapn when don't know what's happnin Dumb Fook Foo Shin Doo.
Originally posted by asiagamblerThis dumbfukk again
Got any more outdated advice about teasers? How about never cross 0??
Please tell us more 30 year old strategies everyone already knows
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Brandt MoatSBR Wise Guy
- 05-26-21
- 884
#33Yea because what the fook happened in 2015 has shyt to do with now. Let's follow this genius. He has numbers on what happens. Not an eye for the game. Just some stats to build an idea that doesn't mean a fooking ting. Come on Fook Foo Do your better then that!
Originally posted by asiagamblerSince 2015, there's been 193 games with a spread of +1, +1.5, +2 or +2.5 for the home team
The home team covered +7.5 142 of those games (73.6%). Breaking it down individually:
32/44 when line was +1 (72.7%)
37/42 when line was +1.5 (88.1%)
27/36 when line was +2 (75.0%)
46/71 when line was +2.5 (64.8%)Comment -
Brandt MoatSBR Wise Guy
- 05-26-21
- 884
#34The game has changed so much since 2015! Master Fook Face Shin.
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Brandt MoatSBR Wise Guy
- 05-26-21
- 884
#35Rules, coaching, players "RIGHTS", Woke crap in the game, defensive schemes, portals just about everything has changed in football since 2015. I'm the dumb fook? You are that fookn dumb to use a number from another team with completely different players and use that as something to gain insight into a particular game. Asian Genius! You should be revered as the next Einstein. Take your lil Tickle guy, pucie azz, gook fook, flat face, dirty haired, fookn stinkin azz the fook down the road Shyt For Brains.
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