What goes through your mind - Poker - AQs

[Sam Odom]

I'm on the dealers button, have AQs (spades)

one 4x raise before me, I call

Everyone else folds

Flop = 8s 9s Xh

Raiser bets 3/4 pot

I call

Turn = 7s

Raiser checks

I bet 1/2 pot with nut flush

Raiser goes all-in, about 60% more than my 1/2 pot bet


???????

[TPowell]

have to pay him off IMO

[Crash]

1st u instantly call and hope he doesnt have a st8 flush and if he does its a bad beat and 2nd its ur fault for not 3 betin on the buttin and seeing where u stand because if u 3 bet he might give the hand up pre flop and u dont get shit on later in the hand if he has a st8 flush


just my opinion but u gotta call

[Sam Odom]

and 2nd its ur fault for not 3 betin on the buttin and seeing where u stand

Really ??!

If I had AK or better then yes. But with AQs??

[jellobiafra]

You go all in over top.

[jellobiafra]

Sam, you got the nut flush. Only thing he can have is straight flush and why would he be pre-flop raising 4x with a 10, J or 5,6??

[jellobiafra]

He's got a K high flush....right?

[pat venditto]

You are never folding here as your opponent is going to do this with a smaller flush and or a Straight and perhaps a Set.

[Crash]

and yes u 3 bet on the button with aq suited because then if he shoves u know u are behind than u can decide if u wanna race for ur money or if he calls then u are still seeing the flop and u have position to decide

it all went wrong when u didnt 3 bet and u immediately go all in and hope its not a cooler

[Sam Odom]

OK

He held KXs (spades) He had the nut river draw w/k-flush

I called of course and a red card came on river

But, I swear, I thought more than once about being beaten by the s/f

[jellobiafra]

I'm wondering what that Xh was.... if it's a 10 then he might be rolling with Jh,Qh....either way you take your shot against his unlikely straight flush. He's playing a Q high straight or a K high flush.

Sam....update us.

[Crash]

agreed jello

[Sam Odom]

He's got a K high flush....right?

Yes, and the s/f draw

[jellobiafra]

Nice hand Sam.... but I don't see how he had a nut draw unless that X spade was a 6 or a 10. Bottom line is you were way ahead with the A, and he had a 1 in 22 chance of hitting (at best, assuming a 6s or 10s kicker) while you were already made.

[Enogsiwon]

I see fish is not teaching you poker Sam..

[Sam Odom]

Xh = 10 of hearts

[Sam Odom]

jello, after the turn he had 7,8,9,10 of spades (7,8,9) on the board.

[Trojan]

I dont play poker.

[Enogsiwon]

You can't fold your hand so there really isn't anything to talk about.. Let's change the subject., where's Fishhead?

I had a premanition.. That Nicky Santoro guy is going to pick a big winner tomorrow.. Somebody find out his play..

[reno cool]

I like the call pre-flop. No raise. Obviously there's no folding of the nut flush.

[20Four7]

AQs I probably just call there, you have no reason to repop it because unless he has AA KK or QQ, or AK your 50/50 there. It's a way behind or a coin flip. It's a hand you want to see a flop with. Given what you hit your not going anywhere and you can't be worried about the 2 outter, if it comes that's poker.

[jellobiafra]

jello, after the turn he had 7,8,9,10 of spades (7,8,9) on the board.

Right, but there are only 2 cards that beat you - J and 6 of spades. There are 8 known cards, 44 unknown. 1/22 chance. Of course he could have had the 6 AND the 10 for all you knew, but again he's not betting 4x preflop....and if he is then none of this matters because he's an idiot anyway.

[xxdjstriderxx]

you have to call, theres too much money in the pot for you to fold a nut flush.

if he has the straight flush, go home and take a shower. theres nothing you can do, simply luck.

the correct play is to call his all in.

chances are he has the jack,queen,or king high flush (which he did)

if he does not have a high flush, chances are more likely hes bluffing hoping that you don't have the AsXs (or any flush for that matter)

both of these situations are much more likely than for him to be holding the straight flush, but trust me...i know the feeling. close your eyes, turn the other way and shove your stack in the middle. theres no other way to play it if you plan on making money.

[LVHerbie]

is this a cash or tourney? If it is a tourney I'm probably re-raising on the flop... probably in a cash game as well... Obviously need more information to give a better answer...

[LVHerbie]

Oh and no way I'm ever laying down an A high flush...

[Sam Odom]

LV, cash & live. Netted about 300.00 on this one hand. Left soon afterwards to get home and watch football.

[20Four7]

Herbie

in a cash game where the stacks are deep you want to keep the pot small at this point. IN a tourney depending on the stacks it becomes a hand you'll want to play and maybe re pop go all in etc. AQs is a drawing hand at this point and you don't want to commit more money than you have to. If the flop come 2h 4h 8c you can easily get away.

If it's a 1/2 game he makes it 8 you won't want to push the pot to something like 25.... big pot and you can get committed. Pot will be $50 plus..... if he comes over the top for $150 you have to fold..... you want to see the flop cheap and go from there. now if he bets 10 into a 20 pot you can see a card for your draw if you think you can stack him.

don't make big pots where you don't have to.

[20Four7]

Oh and no way I'm ever laying down an A high flush...

If the board is 4 s 4 c 8s Ks 8c.... you might think about laying down your flush.

[20Four7]

if it was live. a 4x bb bet is pretty small at some of the wilder tables I"ve been at. Call in a heart beat.

[Sam Odom]

if it was live. a 4x bb bet is pretty small at some of the wilder tables I"ve been at. Call in a heart beat.

when bb = 3 then a 4x = 12.00

An easy call with AQs but then again IMO not a raise situation...

[Enogsiwon]

Nobody has Nicky's play yet?

[Sam Odom]

Nobody has Nicky's play yet?

Nicky is too smart to play holdem poker!

[jellobiafra]

when bb = 3 then a 4x = 12.00

An easy call with AQs but then again IMO not a raise situation...

I'm limping in there too. Semi-trap really. Getting in cheap and a chance for a monster. Why would you tempt a guy that could be sitting on AA, KK , AK, or QQ for all you know. If you raise and he goes all-in....do you wanna be put in that spot?

You made the right moves, imo. Your opponent's play was suspect.

[20Four7]

your opponent made a move with a bad hand and you got him. Even if he's first in the pot he doesn't want to be raising there without K 10 suited or better. You had position, a reasonable hand call him and see the flop,.

[ijustwant2bpaid]

enog can u check up on my thread yesterday or today or the day before, u forgot to settle up with me -56 but what u have is good for now.. and i would have called w/o giving it much thought figuring at best he would have a str8 flush draw