Suns lose as 30 pt favorites last night.

[Bluehorseshoe]

Suns lose by 10 to ADALaide 36ers by 10 in preseason hoops. Moneyline on them at Fan Duel was -20,000.

[pologq]

do we know what the underdog was price wise? that is a "back to the future get doc brown to take you back to place a bet" type game.

[gooner89]

do we know what the underdog was price wise? that is a "back to the future get doc brown to take you back to place a bet" type game.

I'm in the UK so we use fractional odds but best price over here was 40/1, I believe that is +4000? Could be wrong and am open to correction

[Bluehorseshoe]

I'm in the UK so we use fractional odds but best price over here was 40/1, I believe that is +4000? Could be wrong and am open to correction

I believe it was +7500.

[Brock Landers]

Yeah, pre season NBA attracts a lot of attention LOL

[milwaukee mike]

Yeah, pre season NBA attracts a lot of attention LOL

yeah we know, the only way to be a successful pro gambler is to just focus on the biggest games in the biggest sports... no need to waste your time with 30 pt underdogs that win outright

[Brock Landers]

yeah we know, the only way to be a successful pro gambler is to just focus on the biggest games in the biggest sports... no need to waste your time with 30 pt underdogs that win outright

Mike, I don't know any books that take significant action on exhibition games like this.

So what's your point? Do you have one??

[pologq]

I believe it was +7500.

damn that is crazy. even $20 gets you $1500 but you would never think to take it.

[milwaukee mike]

Mike, I don't know any books that take significant action on exhibition games like this.

So what's your point? Do you have one??

my point is that for 14 years you have criticized stuff like nba preseason, nfl preseason, etc etc... while people that are better gamblers than you repeatedly say there are opportunities there, especially on underdogs

but yet you stay blind, deaf, and dumb and use that as an excuse "i don't know any books" blah blah blah

bookmaker takes 2k on sides, 1k on totals and 1k on moneylines... and you can rebet as many times as you want, so you could easily bet 20k on a nba preseason game

[jjgold]

I didn’t mean anything nobody in their right mind should’ve laid 30 points

[El Nino]

Suns are a sell on team this season. It's going to be a dumpster fire. Ayton pissed and doesn't want to be there, Crowder wants out. Coach isn't communicating with players, Sarver gone. Shit organization.

[Thrilla]

I believe it was +7500.

Where?

[Thrilla]

I'm in the UK so we use fractional odds but best price over here was 40/1, I believe that is +4000? Could be wrong and am open to correction

Correct, Betfair odds exchange

[Thrilla]

I didn’t mean anything nobody in their right mind should’ve laid 30 points

Couldn't get any serious money in on the game anyway. Bunch of low limit books had it on offer

[milwaukee mike]

Couldn't get any serious money in on the game anyway. Bunch of low limit books had it on offer

i'm pretty sure i saw a moneyline at betonline/sbag but i couldn't remember what it was

[IBetYou]

Why do people worry about bets they could have had but didn't, when they didn't know about the teams in the first place? Anyone here actually follow NBL?!

Total non-story anyway. Suns played like shit vs a shit team. Not the first time an NBL team has played an NBA team tough on American ground... Melbourne lost in OKC by just 1pt as 30pt dogs 5 years ago.

[milwaukee mike]

Why do people worry about bets they could have had but didn't, when they didn't know about the teams in the first place? Anyone here actually follow NBL?!

Total non-story anyway. Suns played like shit vs a shit team. Not the first time an NBL team has played an NBA team tough on American ground... Melbourne lost in OKC by just 1pt as 30pt dogs 5 years ago.

adelaide is playing again on thursday

you say nobody knows anything, and then point out that aussie teams play well in nba preseason

2019-2020 aussie/nz teams were 4-1 ats vs nba
2018-2019 aussie/nz teams were 6-1 ats
2017-2018 aussie teams were 3-0 ats

so in the history of these matchups the foreign teams counting this year... are 14-2 ats

and yet you play dumb like landers and say why worry about bets that nobody would make

[IBetYou]

adelaide is playing again on thursday

you say nobody knows anything, and then point out that aussie teams play well in nba preseason

2019-2020 aussie/nz teams were 4-1 ats vs nba
2018-2019 aussie/nz teams were 6-1 ats
2017-2018 aussie teams were 3-0 ats

so in the history of these matchups the foreign teams counting this year... are 14-2 ats

and yet you play dumb like landers and say why worry about bets that nobody would make

Wow you think it's really that simple... this team from this league played well against this team from that league and so these teams from this league will always play well from teams from this league. Good grief.

[IBetYou]

Got your stats wrong from '19 anyway.

Melboure: 1-1
Perth: 1-1
Adelaide: 0-1
Syndney: 1-0
NZB: 1-0

[milwaukee mike]

Got your stats wrong from '19 anyway.

Melboure: 1-1
Perth: 1-1
Adelaide: 0-1
Syndney: 1-0
NZB: 1-0

yeah my bad i guess it was 12-4 then? what was the spread in that utah/adelaide game where utah won by 30? that was 1 of my 2 errors

[IBetYou]

28-Sep	19:00		Melbourne United	Phi	-21			84	104
29-Sep	21:00		Perth Wildcats	Uta	-22.5			72	130
30-Sep	21:30		Sydney Kings	LAC	-24			91	110
03-Oct	22:00		New Zealand Breakers	Pho	-23			86	91
05-Oct	19:00		Melbourne United	Tor	-24			82	120
05-Oct			Perth Wildcats	Den	-25			88	96
05-Oct	21:00		Adelaide 36ers	Uta	-27.5			99	129

Handicap for the home side.

[milwaukee mike]

Wow you think it's really that simple... this team from this league played well against this team from that league and so these teams from this league will always play well from teams from this league. Good grief.

i didn't say that... but every single year that they've had these matchups, taking the dogs has worked... so it seems like the spreads are too high

betting is about looking for angles, you don't have to "always play well" to win 53% ats

[IBetYou]

11-4 isn't it? 4 + 4 + 3 =11?

[IBetYou]

i didn't say that... but every single year that they've had these matchups, taking the dogs has worked... so it seems like the spreads are too high

betting is about looking for angles, you don't have to "always play well" to win 53% ats

You need to know who's on the roster. Who's injured and who's getting rested that night. Common misconception in these games is that for these players on foreign teams this is the highlight of their lives playing against an NBA team... that's not true; these teams have their own championship aspirations and their coaches in many cases are managing things like workload and integrating new play calls.

[milwaukee mike]

11-4 isn't it? 4 + 4 + 3 =11?

i said counting this year, so i was including the win by adelaide yesterday
thanks for the correction, and the good discussion... predators taken to the limit by sc bern as a -700 today too

curious to see what the adelaide spread looks like on thursday

[milwaukee mike]

You need to know who's on the roster. Who's injured and who's getting rested that night. Common misconception in these games is that for these players on foreign teams this is the highlight of their lives playing against an NBA team... that's not true; these teams have their own championship aspirations and their coaches in many cases are managing things like workload and integrating new play calls.

nobody decent is flying from australia just to sit on the bench! i think all 14 guys played for adelaide, and their best guys franks/randall played 42/37 mins... no starter on the suns played more than 22 mins

when torrey craig and cameron payne are playing your most minutes, you shouldn't be favored by 30!

[IBetYou]

nobody decent is flying from australia just to sit on the bench! i think all 14 guys played for adelaide, and their best guys franks/randall played 42/37 mins... no starter on the suns played more than 22 mins

when torrey craig and cameron payne are playing your most minutes, you shouldn't be favored by 30!

Well you'd be surprised. I've been burned in the past by players like Teodosic (CSKA) in his prime skipping such games. They're a chance for a squad to gain confidence going into the new season but they are not that important.

[slayer14]

its bullshite guys wake up

[slayer14]

The 3rd 11 suns lineup could have beat these guys

[Bluehorseshoe]

Where?

Fan Duel.

[IBetYou]

The sharp money was fading RaAnana (0-3 ATS). Now that I think about it, what was a 2nd division Israeli team doing playing against NBA teams? ...and seeing point spreads similar to Adelaide (i.e as if they are on the same level)