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  • RangeFinder
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-27-16
    • 8041

    #1
    The truth about football...
    Sharpest numbers the books put out all year, totals included. It's why books promo it to death. Hey, I get it, we all love football, but it is tougher now to beat than ever before. Books have hired all the quants to burn numbers for them.

    Good luck everyone. Stay back from the NFL if you can help it. At least college you have a little chance if you follow teams closely.
  • Bostongambler
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 02-01-08
    • 35581

    #2
    Thanks Glenn. Hey, man landed on the moon.
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    • RangeFinder
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 10-27-16
      • 8041

      #3
      Originally posted by Bostongambler
      Thanks Glenn. Hey, man landed on the moon.
      Really, did he come home in one piece?
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      • Roscoe_Word
        SBR MVP
        • 02-28-12
        • 3999

        #4
        You got that right, Ranger, but even grandmothers bet the National Football League.
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        • Roscoe_Word
          SBR MVP
          • 02-28-12
          • 3999

          #5
          Originally posted by Bostongambler
          Thanks Glenn. Hey, man landed on the moon.
          You opening a Wynn account?
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          • Bostongambler
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            • 02-01-08
            • 35581

            #6
            Originally posted by Roscoe_Word
            You opening a Wynn account?
            When it finally comes to fruition I will. Saying a few months now. I literally reside 0.9 miles to Encore.
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            • Bostongambler
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              • 02-01-08
              • 35581

              #7
              Originally posted by RangeFinder
              Really, did he come home in one piece?
              Yes, but he spilled his tang.
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388179

                #8
                Originally posted by RangeFinder
                Sharpest numbers the books put out all year, totals included. It's why books promo it to death. Hey, I get it, we all love football, but it is tougher now to beat than ever before. Books have hired all the quants to burn numbers for them.

                Good luck everyone. Stay back from the NFL if you can help it. At least college you have a little chance if you follow teams closely.
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                • pologq
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-07-12
                  • 19899

                  #9
                  makes sense. they also have a week to adjust the line properly.
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                  • pilebuck13
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 05-15-15
                    • 17918

                    #10
                    Most time for lines schedules are set way in advance people get killed yet every year people get all excited about it smh
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                    • pavyracer
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 04-12-07
                      • 82839

                      #11
                      The numbers are not sharp. There is a way to beat the NFL. Start first by picking winners. If you can't pick winners you have no business in betting the NFL.
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                      • RangeFinder
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 10-27-16
                        • 8041

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                        The numbers are not sharp. There is a way to beat the NFL. Start first by picking winners. If you can't pick winners you have no business in betting the NFL.
                        This is not an accurate statement. At all.

                        It's not about picking winners, if you believe it is, then you cannot possibly win long term. You have to bet into the right numbers that are +EV on two fronts. One, being the right pointspread, and two, not paying too much juice.
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                        • KiDBaZkiT
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 10-20-09
                          • 14962

                          #13
                          Same recycled garbage I’ve read all summer. None of you ever beat the closing lines and the rare times you do you still end up losing anyway. People lose the most on football cuz you actually have to know wtf is going on. Both in the betting markets and on the field. Especially on the field. The lines are the “sharpest” for football cuz it’s the easiest for people that know the game. Just stick to baseball and randomly betting a side or total cuz of the way a certain line moved or ended up being priced. You have any idea how many times I won in football over the years “getting a bad line”??? Twice as many times as I lost “getting a bad line” I’ve won by the hook more than anyone I’ve ever seen and I don’t sit here and watch a screen and type on a calculator all day.
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                          • JayDr3am
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 05-06-14
                            • 18260

                            #14
                            Originally posted by KiDBaZkiT
                            Same recycled garbage I’ve read all summer. None of you ever beat the closing lines and the rare times you do you still end up losing anyway. People lose the most on football cuz you actually have to know wtf is going on. Both in the betting markets and on the field. Especially on the field. The lines are the “sharpest” for football cuz it’s the easiest for people that know the game. Just stick to baseball and randomly betting a side or total cuz of the way a certain line moved or ended up being priced. You have any idea how many times I won in football over the years “getting a bad line”??? Twice as many times as I lost “getting a bad line” I’ve won by the hook more than anyone I’ve ever seen and I don’t sit here and watch a screen and type on a calculator all day.
                            WidBazkit
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                            • Nate rasta
                              SBR MVP
                              • 05-30-22
                              • 2953

                              #15
                              Well you have a 50/50 chance no matter what the line is if the line is too sharp go the opposite way
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                              • stevenash
                                Moderator
                                • 01-17-11
                                • 65591

                                #16
                                Nothing has changed, the three most common data points remain 37,44,41, the most common end result still remains 20-17, and the most common lines are still 3,4,6, and 7.

                                Oh, .500 or better teams still defeat sub .500 teams 70 percent (give or take) of the time.
                                The common Joe likes to bet 'dogs, that hasn't changed much either, and that's why the common Joe is a loser.

                                It's not that complicated.
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                                • Pick'nParlays
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-22-08
                                  • 3134

                                  #17
                                  Buy a key number

                                  Never be a homer and often half time
                                  Lines are more lucrative
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                                  • jjgold
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-20-05
                                    • 388179

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Nate rasta
                                    Well you have a 50/50 chance no matter what the line is if the line is too sharp go the opposite way
                                    yes that is most any bet and any sport

                                    RANDOM
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                                    • OldBill
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 11-02-21
                                      • 6416

                                      #19
                                      wow and im gonna bury the books this year with all my systems

                                      average win % all of nfl 67%
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                                      • RangeFinder
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 10-27-16
                                        • 8041

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by OldBill
                                        wow and im gonna bury the books this year with all my systems

                                        average win % all of nfl 67%
                                        If you hit 67% this year, it would shock me. Good luck.
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                                        • OldBill
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 11-02-21
                                          • 6416

                                          #21
                                          Will post every play here that i made in sports books but dunno about week 1 will be in severe pain after dental surgery removing 27 teeth at once on sept 2nd
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                                          • JayDr3am
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 05-06-14
                                            • 18260

                                            #22
                                            idk why people make NFL out to be this undefeatable beast and cant profit off it. imo its by far the easiest compared to MLB & NBA. MLB is almost impossible. and NBA gets just as toxic to bet on as baseball.
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                                            • RangeFinder
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 10-27-16
                                              • 8041

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by JayDr3am
                                              idk why people make NFL out to be this undefeatable beast and cant profit off it. imo its by far the easiest compared to MLB & NBA. MLB is almost impossible. and NBA gets just as toxic to bet on as baseball.
                                              Oh, you can profit from it, but you'll have little to no edge in the NFL. It's a slow bleed. Books know it. They'll take anyone's action up to 22K which is a joke in itself compared to the no limits like years past. Horseshoe would take a mil bet no prob. Binion had no fear.
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                                              • jjgold
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-20-05
                                                • 388179

                                                #24
                                                Rangers bookmakers laugh at NFL side bettors
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                                                • RangeFinder
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 10-27-16
                                                  • 8041

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                  Rangers bookmakers laugh at NFL side bettors
                                                  Pretty much
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                                                  • Nate rasta
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 05-30-22
                                                    • 2953

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                    yes that is most any bet and any sport

                                                    RANDOM
                                                    Ya that's my point, why is nfl considered so hard compared to other sports .books set the line and we pick a side, just like other sports. Average Joe's like me lose because we get careless with our winnings, bad money management, parlays and chasing.best way to win big on football is futures.pick a couple teams and invest throughout the year. whether it be Conference ,Division or Super Bowl
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                                                    • JayDr3am
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 05-06-14
                                                      • 18260

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by RangeFinder
                                                      Oh, you can profit from it, but you'll have little to no edge in the NFL. It's a slow bleed. Books know it. They'll take anyone's action up to 22K which is a joke in itself compared to the no limits like years past. Horseshoe would take a mil bet no prob. Binion had no fear.
                                                      which honestly im fine with. 99% of your "edge" is on the cappers knowledge of the sport & betting good numbers. the rest will unfold and if you do that consistently over x amount of bets you will be successful more times than not. if you are betting NFL or sports in general and you arent practicing these things i dont think you should profit or have any other built-in edge outside of putting in the work.
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                                                      • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                        • 04-04-11
                                                        • 37422

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Pick'nParlays
                                                        Buy a key number

                                                        Never be a homer and often half time
                                                        Lines are more lucrative

                                                        Wow, that's a bad idea. Bad Idea Jeans.
                                                        Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                        • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                          • 04-04-11
                                                          • 37422

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by RangeFinder
                                                          Sharpest numbers the books put out all year, totals included. It's why books promo it to death. Hey, I get it, we all love football, but it is tougher now to beat than ever before. Books have hired all the quants to burn numbers for them.

                                                          Good luck everyone. Stay back from the NFL if you can help it. At least college you have a little chance if you follow teams closely.
                                                          Nice post, Range. I agree, lines are sharp.

                                                          Talk to me during the season, pal. I enjoy your insights.
                                                          Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388179

                                                            #30
                                                            Many books 30,000 limits NFL sides

                                                            Ok try to beat them and good luck
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                                                            • SlickFazzer
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 05-22-08
                                                              • 20209

                                                              #31
                                                              Small leagues like Ohio Valley and Summit hoops are the only way to go.
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