Before I get started, I'd like to preface this post. This post is not meant to be critical of SBR and should not be construed as such. I understand a majority of these posts are meant to be critical or perhaps devolve into critical posts from other forum members. This isn't my intent. It's also possible some of these have been answered and I just missed the post, please feel free to point me in the right direction. It's hard to set a "tone" via text post on a betting forum and a lot of what I'll be asked might have a "Get F'd SBR" sort of tone. This is NOT my intention. I instead would like to open a friendly and meaningful dialog with the current SBR staff, but attempting to convey this in a PT post is difficult.
This is also not meant to start a dialog of onshore vs offshore. I understand the differences in odds in these places. I do play both on and off shore.
The above being said, I'm hopeful the SBR staff can perhaps finally answer some incredibly specific questions. We're creeping up on a year now from when the entire "New Site, New Owners, Store Closure, BetPoints mean Nothing" situation began. I've seen few if any answers to questions your users/posters have had about this process and the ones I have seen have been very vague and generic. I'm not looking for vague and generic answers to these questions. If for whatever reason something has not been determined or there is no answer, that's ok. I get it, transitions are hard, but being _nearly_ a year into this process I find it hard to believe there are no answers for any of these questions (that I've at least seen.....).
I love SBR and will likely hang around here for quite some time specifically for the people (shouts to the Fly Me crew). SBR has always been fantastic to me as not only an information resource but also all the things you used to provide. I'm eternally gratefully for the community here and ALL of the perks/prizes/contests/etc that you have provided over the years. I'm not asking for any free stuff, I'm not threatening to leave, and I'm not threatening to burn SBR to the ground (not that could even IF I wanted this).
However.
It's been almost a year since.......whatever you want to call it....... happened. I would find it incredibly odd that SBR staff, owners, or mods do not at least have some information about my above questions they can share. I think it's time to start informing the dwindling community about what the plans are and what some time frames look like. I understand you do not owe us anything, and I'm not asking for anything special. You could even just get rid of the BetPoints, I don't need them. I just think it's odd to keep them around and continually string along the users here if they aren't going to be worth anything.
We're also under a month away from Football starting. We should have some answers about the contest and betpoints (and maybe we do and I missed it......).
I'll await your answers. And before he posts some absolute nonsense to derail this thread via a flood of meaningless posts, Fawk U JJ.
Love,
Hubie69
This is also not meant to start a dialog of onshore vs offshore. I understand the differences in odds in these places. I do play both on and off shore.
The above being said, I'm hopeful the SBR staff can perhaps finally answer some incredibly specific questions. We're creeping up on a year now from when the entire "New Site, New Owners, Store Closure, BetPoints mean Nothing" situation began. I've seen few if any answers to questions your users/posters have had about this process and the ones I have seen have been very vague and generic. I'm not looking for vague and generic answers to these questions. If for whatever reason something has not been determined or there is no answer, that's ok. I get it, transitions are hard, but being _nearly_ a year into this process I find it hard to believe there are no answers for any of these questions (that I've at least seen.....).
- I understand SBR is attempting to transition to onshore US markets. At what point will sbrodds have most of the books that your userbase (or at least the user base you are wanting to cater to) has access to on a regular basis? Things like FanDuel, DraftKings, Circa, BetRivers, SugarHouse, etc?Being an SBR user for more than a decade now, I like SBR odds. Either in classic or New. I don't care which one you wish to use. I cannot use one of your flagship products and instead I'm using odds aggregators elsewhere because sbrodds doesn't have the books that your users have the most access to. When does SBR foresee having these books in SBRodds? I want to use SBRodds, but SBR's direct actions have forced me onto competitors sites for the data I desperately want to see here. I WANT to use sbrodds, but SBR's actions have rendered it virtually useless.
- What are BetPoints good for? Yes, Yes, I understand that "great things are coming" and eventually there will be "something" in the store. Is there anything concrete about what the store will offer? If you're talking about FreePlays for books, which books? How far out on the Horizon do you anticipate the Store being populated? With creeping up on almost a year I'd find it hard to believe that there isn't even an idea about what will be in there, and when said things might be in there. Do you anticipate BetPoints being useful for anything? Why even have the betting contests or the sportsbook for betpoints when (for the time being) they mean nothing?
- To further the conversation on the sportsbook, what is happening with the SBR Book? Why are there little (if any) futures, props, and other derivatives? This isn't meant to be critical, and those who run the book are doing a fantastic job of staying on top of it. I'm just kind of in shock at the MASSIVE derivative markets out there at sportsbooks and how far behind SBR (a betting forum no less) is on these. Surely this cannot be a manual process in this day in age of adding things to the book......
- To continue on the betpoints train, what're we doing with contests? I've always LOVED the contests here at SBR. Not specifically the football contest, although I've had a ton of fun with that in the past. For the Football contest, I understand SBR will be having this again. What, if any prizes, are you planning to hand out for this that DO NOT involve betpoints? We're about a month away from the college/NFL seasons starting and this contest has always been a big draw for SBR. Lets say I have a friend who wants to join in. What would I even tell them to sell them on joining SBR and the Football contest? Here, win some betpoints that you cannot redeem for anything? Again, not meant to be critical, but if the only prizes are BetPoints which have zero value why would people join it? I'm seriously curious.....
- I understand it's Summer and baseball season, which typically means fewer posters lurking around. I've noticed significantly fewer posts, replies, and views than in summers past. Perhaps football season will bring an increase in posters, I'm not sure. What would say to either Posters who have left or new users to attempt to bring them into the fold? What would the selling points be?
I love SBR and will likely hang around here for quite some time specifically for the people (shouts to the Fly Me crew). SBR has always been fantastic to me as not only an information resource but also all the things you used to provide. I'm eternally gratefully for the community here and ALL of the perks/prizes/contests/etc that you have provided over the years. I'm not asking for any free stuff, I'm not threatening to leave, and I'm not threatening to burn SBR to the ground (not that could even IF I wanted this).
However.
It's been almost a year since.......whatever you want to call it....... happened. I would find it incredibly odd that SBR staff, owners, or mods do not at least have some information about my above questions they can share. I think it's time to start informing the dwindling community about what the plans are and what some time frames look like. I understand you do not owe us anything, and I'm not asking for anything special. You could even just get rid of the BetPoints, I don't need them. I just think it's odd to keep them around and continually string along the users here if they aren't going to be worth anything.
We're also under a month away from Football starting. We should have some answers about the contest and betpoints (and maybe we do and I missed it......).
I'll await your answers. And before he posts some absolute nonsense to derail this thread via a flood of meaningless posts, Fawk U JJ.
Love,
Hubie69
