I got people on the ground in Florida but they are not telling me much
Brock Landers
SBR Aristocracy
06-30-08
45360
#2
Home teams that lose game 1 are extremely motivated to win game 2 at home
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388189
#3
Landers you know every angle
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Brock Landers
SBR Aristocracy
06-30-08
45360
#4
Originally posted by jjgold
Landers you know every angle
you must be a fuckin novice still, only been betting on sports for 30 years
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DrunkHorseplayer
SBR Hall of Famer
05-15-10
7719
#5
Originally posted by Brock Landers
Home teams that lose game 1 are extremely motivated to win game 2 at home
Any historical data on this?
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jose21_us
SBR MVP
05-24-10
3844
#6
I’ll be at the game tonight. Pound em!
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svsooner
SBR Wise Guy
09-19-14
707
#7
overrated IMO. Scored a lot in the regular season, but being slowed down in the playoffs.
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Darkside Magick
SBR Posting Legend
05-28-10
12638
#8
Florida Panthers -2.5 +292 vs Tampa Bay Lightning
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#9
I like the UNDER 6.5 and think it's a good buy here.
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#10
Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
Any historical data on this?
Yes.
I went back 75 plays, or the closest season...
You're looking at 55.4% over more than 15 years with with a 41-33 record for the home team but it yields about -5 units of profit, betting the same unit each game, depending on your line.
All but two of those games had the home team favored and the average line of those favorites was -160. In the other three games the home teams were pickem (win), +110 (Loss), and +255 (win).
On May 4th this year three of the four game two's had the home team coming off a loss.
The home team won all three of those games.
Here's what it looks if you bet the home team here over the last 74 plays...
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#11
If we flip that though, you find profit on the away team.
The record is 33-41, 44.6%, But a bettor betting that same unit on the Visiting team in game two after the home team lost game 1 would be up about +5 units.
The bettor only needed to win a little over 40% of those games for profit.
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388189
#12
KVB has data on everything
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#13
Funny thing is that the average price on all the dogs during that 74 game study is about +147.
That's what Circa is dealing now and the market is right there, around +150.
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goduke
SBR Posting Legend
02-17-10
11580
#14
im on tampa. florida isnt at their level
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lakerboy
SBR Aristocracy
04-02-09
94363
#15
I can't trust them.
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#16
There's a correction to that data above.
I did not account for games in the first playoff series where the home team may have lost before that, at the end of the regular season.
In that case, the record for the Home team is 52-41, 55.9% and a loss of more the -6 units.
Betting on the road team in this case yielded a profit of more than +7 units.
So counting all those first series games as well it only got worse for the home team, and better for the road bettors.
Average lines aren't much different.
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82478
#17
Every game is unique if you know anything about probabilities.
Just because team A beat team B and team C beat team D on the second game of a playoff away it does not mean that team A will beat team C in the second away game of the next series.
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JayLA
SBR Hall of Famer
09-11-12
7806
#18
why cant panthers play like they did in the reg season
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goduke
SBR Posting Legend
02-17-10
11580
#19
Originally posted by JayLA
why cant panthers play like they did in the reg season
Because teams play better defense and care more in the playoffs. Florida like to capitalize on laziness during the regular season and didn’t work as hard like this in the regular season
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Darkside Magick
SBR Posting Legend
05-28-10
12638
#20
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JayLA
SBR Hall of Famer
09-11-12
7806
#21
Originally posted by goduke
Because teams play better defense and care more in the playoffs. Florida like to capitalize on laziness during the regular season and didn’t work as hard like this in the regular season
I know shit all about hockey (and sports for that matter) so thanks! I figured it was something like that
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#22
Originally posted by JayLA
why cant panthers play like they did in the reg season
Originally posted by goduke
Because teams play better defense and care more in the playoffs. Florida like to capitalize on laziness during the regular season and didn’t work as hard like this in the regular season
Yeah
Playoffs can be a different animal. No matter the sport.
It's often related to defense. Even when the playoffs started this year with that flurry of Overs, it doesn't mean we didn't still see a playoff defense. Overs were profitable at a crazy rate year to date in the NHL.
But playoffs still brought changes.
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388189
#23
They are terrible
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BeatTheJerk
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
08-19-07
31794
#24
Originally posted by KVB
Yeah
Playoffs can be a different animal. No matter the sport.
It's often related to defense. Even when the playoffs started this year with that flurry of Overs, it doesn't mean we didn't still see a playoff defense. Overs were profitable at a crazy rate year to date in the NHL.
But playoffs still brought changes.
They are like O & 30 on their playoff power plays lol yeah so that doesn’t help at all.
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BeatTheJerk
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
08-19-07
31794
#25
Unreal JJ Gold curse strikes again
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KVB
SBR Aristocracy
05-29-14
74817
#26
Originally posted by KVB
I like the UNDER 6.5 and think it's a good buy here.
Bang!!!
Not one to bump winners, but that was nice UNDER there.
Home teams might be motivated after losing game 1 at home, but it hasn't been translating to a good bet.
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goduke
SBR Posting Legend
02-17-10
11580
#27
Haha Florida at their best. Powerplay with 3 minutes to go and they produce nothing and then give up the game winning goal with 3 seconds left because the defenseman thought he needed to double team Kucherov behind the net. Good thing i learned my lesson from game 1
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388189
#28
Series could
Be over
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risKingDigits
SBR Sharp
12-22-21
467
#29
0-26 on power plays, Lighting is thinking about pulling their goalie to make it an even 5 on 5 from now on.
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82478
#30
Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
Unreal JJ Gold curse strikes again
I always fade the coach. He is right on the money.
Ticket#:4945790
May 19 07:00 PM
May 19 06:59 PM
NHL
STRAIGHT BET
[33] TAMPA BAY +152
348.81 / 530.19
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BeatTheJerk
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
08-19-07
31794
#31
Originally posted by pavyracer
I always fade the coach. He is right on the money.
Ticket#:4945790
May 19 07:00 PM
May 19 06:59 PM
NHL
STRAIGHT BET
[33] TAMPA BAY +152
348.81 / 530.19
Well done by you.
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388189
#32
Excellent paver
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ChuckyTheGoat
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
04-04-11
36690
#33
Originally posted by jjgold
Excellent paver
Who u like for FRI, goldy?
Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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swordsandtequila
SBR Hall of Famer
02-23-12
9756
#34
Been there, done that…
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RM Logic
SBR Wise Guy
12-09-13
847
#35
Tampa Bay sells out in the playoffs. Guys put their bodies out there to stop shots. I think Stamkos had like 4 blocks in the 3rd period.
They up their defensive play to win Stanley Cups.